Unsubstantiated:
documentation of Ukrainian war crimes and atrocities
Thu, 2015-04-09 12:46
#202
Thu, 2015-04-09 14:27
#203
ikosmos
Independent journalists `disappeared by the brutal, blood-thirsty Ukrainian junta.
In Odessa — the same city where the Ukrainian civil war started on 2 May 2014 with a massacre of opponents that had been carefully planned by a team connected to the U.S. White House — there are reported to be two bloggers for the “Voice of Odessa” political site who were seized by the Security Bureau of Ukraine on April 7th, and whose “whereabouts are unknown.” This report appeared in the local Odessa News.
Much like the US tactic in Iraq, those who are not "embedded" are deemed expendable...
Thu, 2015-04-09 14:38
#204
ikosmos
Interesting that you are posting that the same day as a story breaks about charges of four Ukrainian soldiers being executed without trial by the rebels.
These are based on allegations by unidentified "witnesses".
I can't help but notice that you, and the other cheerleaders for the Kievan junta, have made no serious effort to document alleged atrocities by the liberation fighters. Instead, all you can do is to try to urinate on this thread, with its lengthy and apallingly long list of disgusting and horrific atrocities by your much-loved junta. This is very telling.
Thu, 2015-04-09 18:24
#205
Not unidentified.
https://www.amnesty.org/en/articles/news/2015/04/ukraine-new-evidence-of...
And I posted a link last summer of a representative of the Donetsk rebels saying they had summarily executed people - also mentioned in this Amnesty International Report.
You don't get to decide what is allowed here and what is not. The thread title - yours - is Ukrainian war crimes and atrocities and this amnesty report documents just that. It is also far more relevant than a good percentage of what you post.
Thu, 2015-04-16 03:06
#206
ikosmos
A former Ukrainian MP and active anti-Maidan activist, Oleg Kalashnikov, has been killed in his flat in Kiev. His killing is the latest in a series of odd deaths plaguing former government officials and ex-President Yanukovich’s party members....In a letter addressed to his friend before the murder, Kalashnikov allegedly wrote that an “open genocide on dissent, death threats and constant dirty insults” have become the “norm” following his open call to honor the memory of heroes and victims of the Great Patriotic War....
The murder is meant as a warning for all those who dare to oppose Kiev government, which can do anything against the opponents, Tsarev believes.
In the past few months, at least eight former Ukrainian government officials died mysterious deaths, with most treated as suicides.
On January 29, former chairman of Kharkov region government, Aleksey Kolesnik, was found hanged.
On February 24, former Party of Regions member Stanislav Melnik died of a gunshot with his death treated as suicide.
On February 25, several hours before his trial, the Mayor of Melitopol Sergey Valter was found hanged leaving no suicide note.
The next day, February 26, deputy chief of Melitopol police, Aleksandr Bordyuga, who reportedly acted as Valter’s lawyer, was found dead in his garage.
On February 26, a former MP and ex-chairman of Zaporozhye Regional State Administration was found dead with a gun wound to his neck. His death is being investigated as a suicide.
On February 28, former member of the Party of Regions, Mikhail Chechetov, jumped from the window of his 17th floor apartment in Kiev, leaving a suicide note.
On March 14, a 32-year-old prosecutor Sergey Melnichuk fell from a window of a 9th floor apartment in Odessa.
What other purpose but to silence dissent and destroy democracy do such "suicides" have?
Thu, 2015-04-16 23:38
#207
ikosmos
From Western MSM: "This is cool. Move on."
Short History of Ukraine Told by Assassinated Ukrainian Writer Oles Buzina
Rest in Peace, Oles.
Supplemental: Andrey Polevoy on his murdered friend.
Walking in Kiev with Buzina was magnificent. About Kiev - classic, Kiev of Gogol and Bulgakov, he knew, it seems, everything. I even offered him to write a book "The Guide to Kiev with Oles Buzina". Although this guide would be peculiar."Here we are on the same street, where Nikolka from "The White Guard" ran from Petlura, here he turned to... by the way, come on, I'll show you one place, where they have the best pirozhki with tea!" - this is how these walks went.
If only I could write down everything that was said during these walks... During one of them Oles created the adage of Ukrainian mentality, commonly known in narrow circles.
- The perception of our people, - said Oles, - is based on the continuous transition between the two provisions: "It will happen somehow..." - and - "Who knew that would happen!"
Fri, 2015-04-17 03:58
#208
'PRO-RUSSIAN' mother Valentyna Buzyna mourns her dead 'PRO-RUSSIAN' son Oles Buzyna
http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-HX662_041615_J_201504161406...
"Can you imagine what would happen if, in Russia, three opposition figures, a well-known writer and two politicians were killed in the span of two days?
This is what Anton Geraschenko, Advisor to the Interior Minister, posted on his Facebook page before Kalashnykov was killed:
Kalashnikov: Ukrainian Citizen
Address: Kiev, 31, Pravda Blvd, Apt 31
Separatist, Provocateur, Aide to terrorists, Organizer of Anti-Maidan
Each Beast Will Get What They Deserve!"
Is this the Ukrainian democracy the West wants to see?
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article41576.htm
Yes. Clearly. And pay dearly, with no questions asked, to make it this way:
Fri, 2015-04-17 08:38
#209
Sure they would report it in Russia, The difference it that Ukraine would be to blame.
Did they drown Viktor Yanukovich's son in Lake Baikal on the other side of the continent too?
Never mind that there are a number of reasons as to why some of these people might be dying, if any or all of them are linked, there was not much concern last spring when in the space of a month the mayor of Kharkiv was shot in the back, and two politicians were taken in broad daylight, tortured and drowned because they tried to stop a mob from taking down a Ukrainian flag.
Nor much concern about the hundreds of dead and hundreds still missing from those days. Also no repetition of the catchall solution that it must be a false flag. Open and shut in these cases, obviously.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/04/16/us-ukraine-crisis-crime-idUSKB...
In Kiev, political analyst Volodymyr Fesenko said the fact that the two killings took place almost exactly when Putin was holding his meet-the-people phone-in "arouses great suspicion".
"It's as if the proof of political terror in Ukraine was specially delivered to him. These are ritualistic victims for Russian propaganda, although they did not play any serious role in the opposition movement," he told Reuters.
Fri, 2015-04-17 11:58
#210
Ah yes, 'The Hand of Moscow'...(The fact his name and address and 'crimes' were posted on an Interior Ministry website means nothing)
Anatoloy Shariy's Appeal on the Assassination of Oles Buzina (and vid)
http://fortruss.blogspot.co.uk/2015/04/anatoliy-shariys-appeal-on.html
"A totalitarian state of lies has been built where people are killed for their opinion..."
Oles Buzina Has Been Murdered in Kiev!
http://thesaker.is/oles-buzina-has-been-murdered-in-kiev
"My disgust with the ugly freaks in power knows no limits today."
Organizer of Protests at American Embassy Killed in Kiev
http://fortruss.blogspot.ca/2015/04/organizer-of-protests-at-american.html
"I constantly tell my friends, remaining in Ukraine, that the organization of protests is futile. This power does not argue with its opponents, it eliminates them. Many of my friends were arrested, some disappeared, others were killed.
Oleg was one of the organizers of the last protest at the US Embassy: people gathered and stood in silence outside the Embassy. Oleg didn't leave, did not give up. He died. He was killed."
NATO's Nazi 'bootboys' reign of terror is just beginning their 'lustration'. Thanks for all of your help Canada
Fri, 2015-04-17 13:25
#211
ikosmos
Murder of Oles Buzina— a campaign of intimidation by NATO?
Having considered some of the circumstances of the death of Oles Buzina, we are leaning towards the conclusion that his murder is one element in a bloody campaign unleashed by NATO with the aim of intimidating dissenters in Ukraine. Yet another victim of this campaign—Oleg Kalashnikov.Judge for yourself:
The Ukrainian website “Mirotvorets” [The Peacekeeper] publishes personal information of “separatists”, “partisans of the Russian Universe” and other enemies of the Kiev regime. On April 13, 2015, a user named “404” published on this website all personal information on Oleg Kalashnikov ...
After the murder of Kalashnikov, the official Twitter of The Peacekeeper congratulated “Agent 404″ ...
On April 14, the same user now publishes personal information on Oles Buzina....
After the murder of Buzina, the official Twitter of The Peacekeeper expresses congratulations to “Agent 404″...
Two coincidences is too much to consider them mere coincidences.
The website The Peacekeeper is being used as a ‘bulletin board’ for imminent death notices against those who dares to speak the truth about what is really going on in Kiev. Keep in mind that the website The Peacekeeper is actively supported by the advisor to the Interior Minister of Ukraine, the Supreme Rada deputy, Anton Gerashchenko...
The website is registered and located in the USA, in Texas, under the name of a Canadian national, a certain Ophelia Dingbatter. Most likely the registration name is fictitious. The only Ophelia Dingbatter found in an open search is a porn star who is hardly likely to be interested in creating websites dedicated to Ukraine.
In the table “server” the listed technical parameters state:
NATO HPWS/2.1 (a hitherto unknown type of server) http://whois.domaintools.com/psb4ukr.org
The search for other websites on the same server gives the following results:
1. operativ.info: a website that invites Ukrainians to anonymously report separatists
2. informnapalm.org: an information site with a strong anti-Russian bias
All the sites listed are hosted in the US, in Texas, most likely in the same data centre. And now—the most damning evidence:
If one were to trace the network in which The Peacekeeper is included (this can easily be done by anyone: by entering psb4ukr.org in command line in Windows) we discover that the website is located within the NATO network: domain nato.int ...
Here is the final destination: psb4ukr.nato.int, where nato.int is the main domain of NATO.
Due, in all likelihood, to negligence on the part of technical support, the majority of the websites used by NATO to conduct the information war against Ukraine are now exposed. At the same time, it is fair to suspect that specialists in NATO had designated Buzina and Kalashnikov as security threats to Ukraine and eliminated them, using The Peacekeeper as a tool for intimidating dissenters.
We ask you to help us spread this information, we also ask the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia and the International Affairs Committee of the State Duma to take corresponding measures.
IN conclusion,
Thanks to the latest information leak regarding the workshop that took place in Riga on February 19, 2015, at the NATO Centre for Strategic Communications, it has become known that NATO collaborates with the Ukrainian military in the domain of information warfare and closely cooperates on certain projects on the internet [insert link]Political assassinations committed with the specific aim of maintaining control over countries undergoing sharp economic and political crises is the trademarked style of the USA, with many well-documented cases. A list of American death-squad hits, by no means complete, can be accessed here: [insert link] It includes cases in countries ranging from Angola and Chile to Brazil and Thailand.
A combination of factors, and the historical and political context, indicates that a direct or proxy participation of NATO in assassinations of Oles Buzina and other Ukrainian politicians and activists is the most plausible version of events.
Fri, 2015-04-17 14:18
#212
Personal Details of Murdered Journalist & Ex MP Found Posted on Ukrainian 'Enemies of State' Database (and vid)
http://rt.com/news/250529-ukraine-journalists-killed-database/
"The journalist and ex-MP who were gunned down in Kiev this week were on an 'enemies of the state' database - a social media website supported by the aide to Ukraine's Interior Minister.
The bloggers also have a Twitter to share 'successes'..."
Fri, 2015-04-17 16:55
#213
ikosmos
It's even more serious than what you've outlined NDPP. There is a NATO, and Canadian, connection, strongly suggesting that what we are talking about is NATO DEATH SQUADS, either directly or by proxy, with a public "kill list" for the purposes of silencing dissent in Banderistan Ukraine.
[See my previous post with a link.]
I realize that, properly speaking, this contribution belong on a thread with the title "NATO atrocities and war crimes in Ukraine" etc., but I have already heard loud wailing from the usual suspects who would rather have everything "disagreeable" in one thread, preferably ignored by most babblers, rather than specific threads on specific topics. So it stays, for now, unles the NATO crimes begin to "swamp" the crimes of the junta.
Sat, 2015-04-18 19:08
#214
ikosmos
Yikes. I spoke too soon....
Learning From the Best: US Airborne Brigade Sent to Ukraine Has History of War Atrocities
Sat, 2015-04-18 23:17
#215
We only care about human rights and war attrocities when it suits us and our views.
Mon, 2015-04-20 17:15
#216
ikosmos
In an unusually frank assessment by mainstream Western media of Kiev’s post-Maidan regime, the Italian daily La Repubblica has denounced “a ruthless sweeping away of every form of political opposition taking place in Kiev”....But after a year of seeing the ‘Pravy Sector’ movement dismissed by western media to the tone of “Oh, you’ve got some Nazi lunatics everywhere, not just in Ukraine,” it is refreshing to read La Repubblica’s article pointing out, “Pravy Sector heavily influences the choices of both government and president Poroshenko, boycotting every attempt to search for a peaceful solution and sending punitive expeditions against anyone who dares to dissent from the new hyper nationalistic and patriotic line”.
Does the highlighted portion remind you of anyone?
Oh, you’ve got some Nazi lunatics everywhere, not just in Ukraine ...
Oh, you’ve got some Nazi lunatics everywhere, not just in Ukraine....
Oh, you’ve got some Nazi lunatics everywhere, not just in Ukraine....
Oh, you’ve got some Nazi lunatics everywhere, not just in Ukraine...
...........................................................................
This regime is just awash in blood. And the stony silence in Western MSM is barely breaking the surface.
Thu, 2015-04-23 00:46
#217
ikosmos
Ukrainian regime ... goes after Jews. Why? Because ...
Talking about Holocaust is not welcomed at public schools in Lviv, Ukraine
Banderites in Ukrainian national attire smacking the head of a Jewish man against a broken Lenin statue in Lviv
Mon, 2015-04-27 11:56
#218
ikosmos
Perhaps it really is time for a "NATO atrocities in Ukraine" thread. Because the junta is getting help from the brutal NATO military alliance.
It’s common knowledge and public record that the West has intensified its anti-Russian information operations over the past year, but up until now, no direct link could be proven between its cyber warriors abroad and its assassins in Ukraine. That all changed due to the latest revelation by RT, which showed that the Mirotvorets online hit list was unsurprisingly registered by a Ukrainian agent of NATO’s Cooperative Cyber Defense Centre of Excellence (СCD-COE). This entity is based in Tallinn and responsible for waging information war against Russia and the resistant population still residing in Ukraine.
Following global publicity, the online hit list and the odious NATO sponsored website has been suddenly shut down.
NATO-supported Mirotvorets functions as an online kill portal where the name, photo, address, phone number, and other personal information of so-called “enemies of the state” of Ukraine are published. Wannabe assassins eager to prove their loyalty to Kiev’s regime could then take ‘patriotic’ matters into their own hands by killing the individuals marked for death in the hit list. This mechanism of fear, intimidation, and, as already has been seen, actual murder doesn’t have an equivalent in any other war-torn countries, to say nothing of the peaceful and stable Russian Federation. It’s a postmodern creation thought of in the West, supported by the West, and designed to pursue the interests of the West, and it owes its inspiration to none other than the Nazi regime. Twenty-first century Ukraine is thus nothing more than a testing laboratory for its larger application in other forthcoming targeted states, and it’s presumable that NATO’s other global proxies, specifically ISIL and its associated terrorist hordes, will now start utilizing this political technology owing to its demonstrated lethality.In the given context, the purpose of NATO’s cyber information operations is to insinuate murderous thoughts into the minds of besieged populations, hoping that pro-Western supporters will act on their externally constructed impulses and NATO-provided targeting information to carry out pro bono assassinations. It’s a win-win for NATO either way, since even if it doesn’t manage to cull a couple free assassins, it still succeeds in constructing an atmosphere of fear and paranoia that does more to censor on-the-ground dissent than any physical media censorship ever could hope to do.
Mon, 2015-04-27 12:11
#219
Ukrainian regime ... goes after Jews. Why? Because ...
Talking about Holocaust is not welcomed at public schools in Lviv, Ukraine
So that article recounts events from back in 2012 when the country was being run by Viktor Yanukovich, and actions of a political party - Svoboda - which was reduced from 37 seats in the rada in 2012 to seven in the latest election.
What is the history lesson we are supposed to take from this? That those who took those actions back then don't have nearly so much power now.
Mon, 2015-04-27 13:13
#220
ikosmos
Ukrainian Forces Open Fire on Humanitarian Aid Convoy
la la la la ...stick your fingers in your ears ... and all the crimes go away!
According to Gleb Kornilov, head of the Relief Fund and the New Russia Donbass, Ukrainian soldiers opened fire on a convoy carrying humanitarian aid to Donbas, killing one person.“On the 23th of April three of our delivery trucks were on their way to Shirokino with humanitarian aid. For unknown reasons, one of the delivery trucks left the planned route, and after some time reached a position of the Ukrainian Armed Forces situated 27 kilometers south-west of Donetsk. The soldiers opened fire,” Interfax cites him as saying.
Tue, 2015-04-28 11:54
#221
ikosmos
If This Isn't a Fascist Junta Then What Is It?
Today in Ukraine we see the exact same picture. A multi-party system exists in Ukraine, but this multi-party system is only a fig leaf. There is in fact no opposition. There is no media reflecting an alternate point of view. At the slightest excuse – gunmen attack newspaper and television channel offices, which dare to show the wrong report or programme. Attacks on people who for whatever reason fall foul of the fascists have been carried out recently under the guise of “lustration”, that is bullying and beatings, which have now taken the form of murder. The arrest of dissenters takes place under the guise of the detention of “supporters of terrorists”, but this doesn’t change the meaning of what has happened. It is worth recalling that in Nazi Germany it also all took place “strictly according to the law”...
The author goes through the details of all those "shot while attempting to escape" or those who "shot himself" (in the back of the head) and so on. Meanwhile, the liberals "applaud" this barbarous regime. Way to go, liberals.
And, of course, the involvement of the brutal jackboot NATO military alliance that Canada is a party to ...
We have a situation, where there is a resource which is connected to a man with the name of Gerashenko, who is an assistant to Arsen Avakov, Minister of Internal Affairs. And this resource is a register of people, whom they have started to kill. Incidentally there are also Russian citizens on this list. Even my name can be found on it. https://psb4ukr.org/criminal/starikov-nikolaj-viktorovich/What is curious and even characteristic: this website is found on the main page of NATO: http://politrussia.com/world/ubiystvo-buziny-975/
It seems to me that the Russian Foreign Ministry and other bodies could pose a whole series of questions on this subject – the creation in other countries of lists of Russian citizens, with such a potential threat, it shouldn’t remain unnoticed.
Just imagine if a foreign government, part of a brutal military alliance, was involved with making lists of Canadians targetted for "elimination" and helped to make public those identified for extermination....
Thu, 2015-05-21 18:34
#222
ikosmos
Fascist Ukrainian batallion "Donbas" murders militiaman AND HIS PREGNANT WIFE.
[u]Canada is funding the killers. That's YOUR tax dollars, hard at work. [/u]
Sun, 2015-05-31 19:45
#223
More Ukrainian War Crimes - More Canadian Acquiescence
"Attacks on Horlivka carried out by Ukrainian officers."
Mon, 2015-06-01 13:21
#224
ikosmos
Canadian Roger Annis tears Amnesty International a new one. With their fake neutrality, glaring omissions, kid glove treatment of the brutal junta,and indifference to much of the Ukrainian regime's disgusting and endless atrocities, Amnesty International has really shown how worthless a "Human Rights" organization can become.
Thu, 2015-06-11 13:54
#225
ikosmos
War on Donbass Resumes, Western Media Remains Silent
The recent shelling of Donetsk and surrounding areas, carried out by Kiev’s military forces, has effectively ended the ceasefire and whatever illusions still remained of the Minsk 2 agreements. While there had been instances of violence before that of recent days, the level of intensity and bloodshed has undoubtedly escalated.Although the Ukrainian military and Nazi paramilitary units have been targeting civilians – a flagrant war crime by any measure – there is a near total media blackout in the West. Meanwhile, the United States continues to argue that the “overwhelming majority of ceasefire violations” are as a result of anti-Kiev rebel activity, despite providing no evidence to substantiate these utterly false claims. Indeed, in the midst of an ongoing bloody war waged by Kiev against the people of Donbass, Washington continues to hold up President Poroshenko and his government of oligarchs and fascists as a force for peace.
[u]Escalation. War Crimes. Orwellian Lies about the War Crimes. [/u]
On the morning of June 5th, according to eyewitness accounts in the town of Maryinka, “a 52-year-old man was at home…when a group of Ukrainian troopers entered the yard – about eight men…The troopers started to inspect the [passport] documents, and then the [man] emerged out of the cellar. The Ukies pointed at him their machine guns at once and opened fire…He died from the injuries on the spot.” [u]Such flagrant war crimes – summary executions in wartime – go entirely unreported in the western media.[/u]
[u]Flagrant war crimes, unreported in Western MSM. [/u]
Note the difference here. While in Donetsk, it is civilians being killed by Ukrainian military, Kiev can report no such equivalent carnage on its side. Indeed, it seems that all casualties on the Kiev-controlled side of the contact line have been military casualties, while on the rebel side it is both militia and civilian casualties. This simple fact, entirely omitted from the western narrative, is indicative of the nature of the conflict. Moreover, the false equivalence presented by that same media is disingenuous to say the least.
[u]On the one side, military casualties only. On the side of freedom, civilian and military casualties.[/u] And again, the blithe and evil indifference in the blood thirsty West. No wonder Russians, eg, have turned their back on the "civilized" West.
" ... the purpose here is not to inform, but rather to absolve the Ukrainian military of direct responsibility for war crimes, and instead paint Russia as the aggressor, despite the facts.... One could be forgiven for thinking that the bombardment of these women’s homes was a mere act of God, rather than a deliberate shelling of civilians."
Finally,
... it is only Russian media that is reporting on the shelling by Kiev. Therefore, any reportage at all would, by definition, have to be “claimed by Russian media.” The idea is to both report what is happening, and to discredit it at the same time.
Russian media! Russian media! Russian media!
Thu, 2015-06-11 22:42
#226
ikosmos
An American volunteer: "This is what [Canada and] the United States is doing in Ukraine."
Ukrainian Armed Forces and pro-Nazi militias bombing civilians. There are no military targets here.
Mon, 2015-06-15 13:10
#227
ikosmos
“I and my brother had long been wishing to return to the homeland. We had been waiting for the occasion and working out plans in order to do it simultaneously”.
"According to Miroshichenko, deliberate extermination of the inhabitants of Donbass became the last straw for them. “Too many children died. No one expected that such things could be happening in our country. Although they call it an anti-terrorist operation, this is outright genocide. Those people, who live there, think it is inadmissible”.
[u]Deliberate Extermination. Outright Genocide. And this claim from a former diplomat and his brother, an Intelligence Agency Officer. [/u]
Thu, 2015-06-18 11:42
#228
ikosmos
Two Ukrainian servicemen have confessed to the murder of a mother and daughter in the Kiev-controlled portion of eastern Ukraine, the local prosecutor’s office reported on Wednesday. The soldiers shot the women in the head with a machine gun.The two residents of the Luganskoe village in the Donetsk region, a 77-year old woman and her 45-year old daughter, were killed on Monday, the statement from the press service of the prosecutor’s office in Donetsk region said. The women died of bullet wounds to the head.... “It has been established that on June 15 the soldiers entered the house of the victims, whom they suspected of separatist sympathies, and killed them with machinegun fire,” the official statement said.
Ukrainian soldiers confess to cold-blooded murder of 2 women ‘suspected of separatism’
Thu, 2015-07-09 13:30
#229
ikosmos
The DAILY COUNT of Ukrainian army war crimes in Donbass, eastern Ukraine for july 8,2015
Nothing to see here, the Western MSM doesn't report them so they can't be true, and the true believers in the Banderistan junta reach for their sidearms when the hear the words, "Human Rights".
Thu, 2015-07-30 11:04
#230
apologies for misposting my message re Russian investigations of war crimes in Novorossiya....but the essence of my question remains....can we put together a Canadian group to prepare documentation re Canada´s complicity, where and when such investigations make it to an International Court of repute?
Thu, 2015-07-30 12:14
#231
ikosmos
apologies for misposting my message re Russian investigations of war crimes in Novorossiya....but the essence of my question remains....can we put together a Canadian group to prepare documentation re Canada´s complicity, where and when such investigations make it to an International Court of repute?
I'm out of my depth here. This thread does that to some degree. Other than publicizing what should be publicized to a wider audience and, thereby, hopefully influencing public policy of the next regime in Ottawa, I'm not even sure how one would proceed. For example, the Russian Federation has made the claim in the UN that the prosecution of those who shot down MH-17 shoud be treated as a criminal matter and not as some sort of UN Tribunal. One has to figure out the most likely successful method.
There are 2 such international courts and a babbler has already corrected me when I got them confused. Maybe someone else can address this.
Thu, 2015-07-30 14:51
#232
Any legal action directed towards an international court must first demonstrate that it has exhausted domestic legal remedies. That is these matters must first be brought before a Canadian court. This might involve, for example, laying charges against Canadian officials involved in channeling support to the US-installed Ukrainian oligarchy. Unfortunately, such charges can only proceed by first obtaining the permission of the Minister of Justice to lay them.
Not only do I see no possibility of proceeding with an attempt to persuade international courts of the righteousness of this cause, but no likelihood whatsoever of success. The international legal apparatus has amply demonstrated it is as corrupt on these matters as the domestic courts. There is no worse employment of activist resources than to be persuaded to pursue an expensive and fruitless wild goose chase in Western controlled international courts.
The best course for supporting Donbass in my view is to publicize their plight and as with Libya, Syria or Palestine, and to document, once again, the complete abdication/complicity of the Canadian progressive community on this matter. As can be seen from a cross section of that community here, there is mostly studied indifference or active hostility and denial to revelations of the outrageous ongoing atrocities being committed.
My own suggestion would be for anyone encountering a political candidate in the upcoming federal election, to vigorously oppose continued support of the Ukrainian neo-nazi regime as western proxy, and to directly question the candidate as to his actual knowledge of the situation. In my experience, most are dumb as dirt on this as with most international issues and do as instructed by their political party leadership.
In this regard, there is no difference at present between the major Canadian parliamentary parties. All are with the Imperium. All support the Ukrainian oligarchy and its role in beggaring Ukraine, as well as its aggressive pro-NATO provocations of Russia.
Thu, 2015-07-30 15:26
#233
Nun of Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate Murdered in Kiev
http://rbth.com/news/2015/07/29/nun_of_ukrainian_orthodox_church_of_the_...
"Sister Alevtina, a nun of Floristy Convent in Kiev was found murdered in her apartment on July 29...her nephew found the nun's body with her hands tied and traces of torture,' a spokesman said. The late nun was 62 years old.
This is the second murder of the clergy of the Ukrianian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate in a few days.On July 29, a 40-year old priest of the Church of St Tatiana in Kiev, Father Roman Nikolayev died of gunshot wounds to the head..."
Thu, 2015-07-30 18:41
#234
ikosmos
Any legal action directed towards an international court must first demonstrate that it has exhausted domestic legal remedies. That is these matters must first be brought before a Canadian court....
OK, so that may explain the recent approach of the Russian Federation regarding the prosecution of those who shot down MH-17 over Ukraine. That, and their likely keen enthusiasm to be able to present evidence, of which plenty is in the public record already, and cross-examine witnesses, etc..
Pepe Escobar long ago noted what he expected on MH-17, using his observation of previous, similar examples. A political whitewash. And any payments to the families to be conditional on silence.
Fri, 2015-07-31 22:23
#235
After the self-proclaimed republics applied to the United Nations Security Council asking to set up an international tribunal to investigate war crimes committed during Kiev’s punitive operation in Donbas, Russia’s Investigations Committee said it was ready to submit to international courts proofs of crimes committed by Ukrainian armed groups....
This is what I was referring to in my post...of course I agree that initiating an action is I believe technically impossible, if or when the autonomous republics are recognized as soveriegn, they may have the right to launch a legal action.
It would be interesting to notify them that Canada´s complicity must be put on the agenda and some such Canadian group offer to provide evidence of complicity...
of course this would be characterized as an effort to obstruct Canada´s foreign mission work (?) as defined under Bill C-51...which of course I´d be curious to see the response of the NDP re their claimed intent to repeal (or modify...I´ve lost track) the Bill!
Sat, 2015-08-01 00:19
#236
Yes, Canada is most definitely a part of the international criminal conspiracy involved in the Ukraine project. And at item and active in several key areas. As they were with Libya, Haiti, etc. An international criminal accomplice of the first order. It's what we do. The very fabric of empire. It's our history. And the spirit of Donbass people's resistance is not unknown among other equivalent struggling sovereignties, closer to home, as you well know. May they grow and prosper.
Mon, 2015-08-03 20:17
#237
swallow
Neither Russia nor Ukraine has ratified the statute of the International Criminal Court, making it difficult for the ICC to intervene in any way.
Tue, 2015-08-04 13:41
#238
Russian Investigators Present New 'White Book' Detailing Crimes of Pro-Kiev Forces in Donbas
http://www.rt.com/politics/311457-russian-investigators-present-new-white/
Mon, 2015-08-10 12:42
#239
ikosmos
German MSM itemizes Kiev's war crimes.
Banderistan cheerleaders feel free to look the other way. Because freedom.
Although there is little evidence that regular Ukrainian army forces have committed a large number of such crimes, there is a mountain of evidence that National Guard battalions and Kiev’s more independent neofascist-infused volunteer battalions have....
Remember "plausible deniability" ? Very handy for such regimes ...
"it is very likely that in Kiev, if not elsewhere, the deployment of ultra-nationalist- and neofascist- infused volunteer battalions was immediately conceptualized as a temporary meaure that would provide the Maidan regime with a layer of insulation and thus deniability regarding any direct responsibility for the battalions’ atrocities and war crimes, while allowing it to unleash these elements on the ‘koloradoes’ and ‘vatniki’ in the Mongolid east."
Death squads in Latin America. Trained at the School of the Americas. And, lo and behold, more of the same in Banderistan Ukraine. Because freedom.
Sat, 2015-08-22 18:43
#240
ikosmos
One of the more extraordinary aspects of the Ukraine war has been the brutal war crimes committed against civilians, by and large exclusively by one side: Kiev.No less extraordinary has been the refusal of the western media to cover this story, thereby leaving most people in the West simply unaware of the extent of the horrors being perpetrated in their name, funded and cheered on by their leaders. Most of the politicians are as misled as the general populace because they also get their facts from the media.
This situation has always struck us here at RI as a political time bomb waiting to go off, because the story is just too big, too ugly, too heart-breaking, and too widespread to be swept under the rug, and there are too many outlets happy to cover it - Russian state media for starters, but also the enormous alternative media. It was just waiting for the right voice and the right tragic personal story to relate, the Rosa Parks of Donbas.
"That voice might well be a young Australian amateur filmmaker named Chris Nolan who has been posting excellent short films to Youtube for over a year now, describing the Kiev revolution (Maidan), and the ensuing war. "
Video here. Warcrimes in Gorlovka
About these disgusting crimes, neither the US State Department, which funds this brutal pro-fascist regime, nor the many useful idiots who cheerlead it (including the entire Parlament of Canada, without exception), have anything to say. Except "Russian Lies" and other non-sequitors. Because freedom.
Tue, 2015-09-15 21:15
#241
ikosmos
Russian diplomat says depriving Donbas civilians of drinking water is Medieval war method
"We think is of paramount importance to insist Kiev stop any actions that might deteriorate the catastrophic humanitarian situation in Donbas," Dolgov stressed. "It is a cynical Medieval method of war to deprive civilians of drinking water."
Mon, 2016-06-06 10:41
#242
ikosmos
The Times of London acknowledges what critics of the Ukrainian regime have been saying all along:
Kiev allows torture and runs secret jails, says UN
Of course, the story is behind a paywall. Because freedom.
And, other than the Times of London, there is mostly a DEAD SILENCE on this story in Western MSM, including in Canada. Why? Because it contradicts the frothing Russophobic narrative in which the Banderist and Nazi-infested Ukrainian regime can do no wrong, and those "dastardly" Russians can do nothing right.
Ukraine’s spy agency, the SBU, is systematically rounding up and torturing suspected rebel sympathisers, the United Nations has told The Times.
Ivan Simonovic, UN assistant secretary-general for human rights, said that in some areas Kiev’s “disregard for human rights” had become entrenched and systemic and needed to be urgently addressed.
The UN report documents hundreds of cases of illegal detention, torture and ill-treatment of detainees — both by pro-Russian armed groups and by government agencies....
You can find the same story in Russian media. But not in the lickspittle Canadian MS media. Because freedom.
According to the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, the UN Subcommittee on Prevention of Torture (SPT) decided to halt its visit to Ukraine as it did not get access to some sites where it suspected infringements of human rights were taking place.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20160525/1040250789/unhcr-ukraine-tortures.html#ixzz4AoGwV600
Why is the story appearing now, even if only in one large Western MSM and behind a paywall? Because with the UN body reporting on the atrocities, the facts cannot be entirely hidden from public view.
I guess it's time for more attacks from Western MSM on the UN itself now. Because freedom.
Mon, 2016-06-06 10:48
#243
Must be lies. It's the NYT:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/27/world/europe/un-suspends-torture-inqui...
In the kyiv post too, ikosmos.
https://www.kyivpost.com/article/content/ukraine-politics/the-times-kyiv...
Mon, 2016-06-06 10:55
#244
ikosmos
Ukrainian media has plenty of stories about atrocities there. But not in the mostly lickspittle Western MSM.
I notice that you quote the NY Times on the suspension of their investigation ... but you have not found any other Western bootlickers who are writing about what the London Times wrote about - that Kiev allows torture and runs secret jails - and not just that the UNHRC could not get access, etc.
Spare me your BS. We all know you love this Banderist regime.
Mon, 2016-06-06 10:57
#245
The Times of London acknowledges what critics of the Ukrainian regime have been saying all along:
Kiev allows torture and runs secret jails, says UN
Of course, the story is behind a paywall. Because freedom.
And, other than the Times of London, there is mostly a DEAD SILENCE on this story in Western MSM, including in Canada. Why? Because it contradicts the frothing Russophobic narrative in which the Banderist and Nazi-infested Ukrainian regime can do no wrong, and those "dastardly" Russians can do nothing right.
Ukraine’s spy agency, the SBU, is systematically rounding up and torturing suspected rebel sympathisers, the United Nations has told The Times.Ivan Simonovic, UN assistant secretary-general for human rights, said that in some areas Kiev’s “disregard for human rights” had become entrenched and systemic and needed to be urgently addressed.
The UN report documents hundreds of cases of illegal detention, torture and ill-treatment of detainees — both by pro-Russian armed groups and by government agencies....
You can find the same story in Russian media. But not in the lickspittle Canadian MS media. Because freedom.
According to the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, the UN Subcommittee on Prevention of Torture (SPT) decided to halt its visit to Ukraine as it did not get access to some sites where it suspected infringements of human rights were taking place.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20160525/1040250789/unhcr-ukraine-tortures.html#ixzz4AoGwV600
Why is the story appearing now, even if only in one large Western MSM and behind a paywall? Because with the UN body reporting on the atrocities, the facts cannot be entirely hidden from public view.
I guess it's time for more attacks from Western MSM on the UN itself now. Because freedom.
Do you get an extra kopek for every "because freedom"?
Mon, 2016-06-06 11:13
#246
Instead of insulting each other based on which "side" you support, why not just look up the actual published UN Human Rights report, read it, and draw your ammunition from there:
[url=http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/Countries/UA/Ukraine_14th_HRMMU_Report.pd... on the human rights situation in Ukraine 16 February to 15 May 2016[/url]
NOTE: The word "torture" appears 45 times in the report, but please make sure to read in context so that you can know who is torturing whom.
Mon, 2016-06-06 12:39
#247
I wasn't questioning the report. And yes, I know it documents violations on both sides (as have recent Amnesty Reports).
My point was ikosmos is up in arms about there not being a peep to be heard in western media, when in fact the NYT ran an even more in-depth piece than the Times did. And no paywall, seeing as ikosmos has concerns that amounts to some sort of coverup.
The second largest newspaper in the United States running the story is not dead silence.
The story was also published in Kyiv.
Mon, 2016-06-06 13:17
#248
Actually, Smith, my "stop the insults" was directed more at the two posts just prior to yours.
Mon, 2016-06-06 14:02
#249
Actually, Smith, my "stop the insults" was directed more at the two posts just prior to yours.
Thanks, Unionist. My comment was more stylistic - I hadn't seen three occurrences of "because freedom" in one post before, but perhaps it has happened and I missed it.
Mon, 2016-06-06 14:42
#250
Actually, Smith, my "stop the insults" was directed more at the two posts just prior to yours.
Thanks, Unionist. My comment was more stylistic - I hadn't seen three occurrences of "because freedom" in one post before, but perhaps it has happened and I missed it.
And I'll bet you never thought your kopek reference would get you into t rouble!
Mon, 2016-06-06 15:41
#251
Actually, Smith, my "stop the insults" was directed more at the two posts just prior to yours.
Thanks, Unionist. My comment was more stylistic - I hadn't seen three occurrences of "because freedom" in one post before, but perhaps it has happened and I missed it.
And I'll bet you never thought your kopek reference would get you into t rouble!
Quite right. Red with embarrassment, that's me.