Who is the Islamic State? (aka ISIS, aka ISIL)

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Slumberjack

Yes, we wouldn't want that sort of imagery to intrude, lest we start attributing a share of it to the foreign policy choices of the three stooges political structure in this country.

NDPP

Kuwait Busts Cell Working To Back, Finance ISIS

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2015/11/19/Corresponden...

 

"Kuwaiti security authorities have busted an international cell led by a Lebanese man that was sending air defense systems and funds to ISIS, the interior ministry said Thursday. The cell's chief, who was not named, confessed that he raised funds and provided logistical support for the group, which has carried out deadly attacks in Lebanon and France in the past week, the ministry said.

He acted as coordinator for ISIS in Kuwait and arranged arms deals and FN6 portable air-defence systems FROM UKRAINE, which were shipped to IS in Syria THROUGH TURKEY..."

NDPP

US Must Join Russian-French Anti-ISIS Bloc or Face Isolation

http://tarpley.net/us-must-join-growing-russian-french-anti-isis-bloc-or...

"Willingness to attack the 100 km Jarablus-Aleppo Corridor is litmus test for all World Powers; Oust Ashton Carter, Appeaser of ISIS. US public, realizing that Saudis and Turks are enemies, Russia a friend in War on Terror..."

 

 

 

Mr. Magoo

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US Must Join Russian-French Anti-ISIS Bloc or Face Isolation

How would France shame the US for not joining their coalition of the willing?

I get that that whole kerfuffle was stupid, but still.

"Oh, we needed to have our own mini-9/11 before we could 'get it'".

quizzical

Paladin1 wrote:
do you think children AREN'T being sold into sex slavery there? 

do you think children aren't being sold into sex slavery here and every fkn where else in the world?

if men stopped buying them the market would dry up.

look beyond your bigotry.

Paladin1

quizzical wrote:

Paladin1 wrote:
do you think children AREN'T being sold into sex slavery there? 

do you think children aren't being sold into sex slavery here and every fkn where else in the world?

if men stopped buying them the market would dry up.

You're 100% right they are being sold all over the world. In Syria and Iraq however it's going unopposed and on a systemic level.

So what can we do about it besides post on a message forum from the comfort of our homes?

Paladin1

Mr. Magoo wrote:

"Oh, we needed to have our own mini-9/11 before we could 'get it'".

 

Sadly that's a very accurate truth for pretty much anyone and everything.   Until something like this really hits home it's not going to really hit home.  And excuse my poor english :)

The first time 100 Canadians are taken hostage inside a building and murdered people will stop seeing it as someone else's problem and start seeing them and their families as potential victims.  People will stop talking about privacy rights and start yelling for the police to GTF out of the way and call in the army.

quizzical

Paladin1 wrote:
quizzical wrote:
Paladin1 wrote:
do you think children AREN'T being sold into sex slavery there? 

do you think children aren't being sold into sex slavery here and every fkn where else in the world?

if men stopped buying them the market would dry up.

You're 100% right they are being sold all over the world. In Syria and Iraq however it's going unopposed and on a systemic level.

So what can we do about it besides post on a message forum from the comfort of our homes?

you don't know it's going unopposed and it's part of a world wide system called patriarchy.

stop being sexist racist bigots and look here at home and do something instead of thinking 'there's nothing to do here we're perfect just the way we are if only we get rid of those damn Islamists'.

Bec.De.Corbin Bec.De.Corbin's picture

quizzical wrote:

Paladin1 wrote:
do you think children AREN'T being sold into sex slavery there? 

do you think children aren't being sold into sex slavery here and every fkn where else in the world?

if men stopped buying them the market would dry up.

look beyond your bigotry.

Nice dodge and side track... Wink

 

NDPP

American Media: Islamic State's Devoted PR Team (and vid)

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/322856-american-media-islamic-state/

"So why have the investigative journalists in the Western media matrix gone missing in action when it comes to investigating this global menace known as Islamic State? Why is this group being so readily accepted at face value?

Just like the early claims that Osama bin Laden was responsible for the terrorist attacks of 9/11, the Western media seems only content at making the world tremble at the very name 'Islamic State.'

This environment of fear and loathing gives NATO countries a free pass to continue their wars of occupation and neocolonialism, while at the same time, destroying civil liberties at home.

Until it can be proven otherwise, ISIS is a Western-made tool of oppression - a veritable crowbar used to create havoc at home and abroad.

Here is the main question the Western mainstream media needs to ask right now: what exactly is the relationship between Islamic State and the Western powers today?"

Bec.De.Corbin Bec.De.Corbin's picture

NDPP wrote:

Until it can be proven otherwise, ISIS is a Western-made tool of oppression - a veritable crowbar used to create havoc at home and abroad.

Here is the main question the Western mainstream media needs to ask right now: what exactly is the relationship between Islamic State and the Western powers today?"

Still sticking to that one phone call from Washington DC would stop ISIS thingy egh NDPP?

 

NDPP

Read the thing. Even you might learn something caw caw caw...Laughing

Bec.De.Corbin Bec.De.Corbin's picture

I've read through it for the most part (I suspect more than you do mine) and in the end it's all a matter of understanding and believing the articles perspective... as we all know here I do not share your perspective on this subject and your continuous selection of same sources, over and over, tend to get be predictable in theme. 

But still, you just have to love how Russia seems to be immune to allegations of civilian casualties from it's bombing raids in Syria from you and your camp. Russia's hasn't done anything different from what the USA or NATO has been doing for years before it. They're bombing as much as anybody sice last month and you havent posted shit on civilian casulties... why is that?

Bec.De.Corbin Bec.De.Corbin's picture

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NDPP

Never known you to feel concern about Middle Eastern war casualties Bec? Sure it's not the pulverizing of Uncle Sam's takfiri proxies that has you worried? I'm sure that HRW, The Guardian or some of the other pro-US NGOs will loudly announce it if and when it happens. Have no fear even when you're not here,  Russophobia and the American propaganda view is still well represented..

Paladin1

Bec.De.Corbin wrote:

quizzical wrote:

Paladin1 wrote:
do you think children AREN'T being sold into sex slavery there? 

do you think children aren't being sold into sex slavery here and every fkn where else in the world?

if men stopped buying them the market would dry up.

look beyond your bigotry.

Nice dodge and side track... Wink

 

 

Yup.

 

I'll save the who created ISIS arguments for smarter people. I'm presently more worried about getting in there and saving the human beings from being in a real life Grand theft Auto game/ SAW movie.

Mr. Magoo

It'd be like Australia saying "let's figure out who first brought rabbits to Australia, and then we can hold them responsible for all the damage that rabbits have done!".

That ship's sailed.  The rabbits have their own agenda now.

Bec.De.Corbin Bec.De.Corbin's picture

NDPP wrote:

Never known you to feel concern about Middle Eastern war casualties Bec? Sure it's not the pulverizing of Uncle Sam's takfiri proxies that has you worried? I'm sure that HRW, The Guardian or some of the other pro-US NGOs will loudly announce it if and when it happens. Have no fear even when you're not here,  Russophobia and the American propaganda view is still well represented..

Well seeing how you're always the one here posting stuff about civilian casualties I was just wondering why you haven't posted anything on civilian casualties caused by Russian air strikes. Now I see why: judging from the highlighted portion of a quote from you it's obvious you believe Russia hasn't killed any civilians yet with their air strikes. I guess it's because Russia said so, right? 

NDPP

No it's because  all of the howling dogs of the Western media wurlitzer haven't said so...There may well be casualties that occur. But never fear Bec, because nobody will ever top the Everest that is ultimately Uncle Sam's bodycount. Ever.

Ever.

 

How ISIS Was Created (and vid)

http://www.trueactivist.com/someone-finally-explained-how-isis-was-creat...

"Ben Swann explains the origins of ISIS and takes on the central issue of whether or not ISIS was created by 'inaction' by the US or by 'direct' action."

 

NATO Is Harbouring The Islamic State

https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/europe-is-harbouring-the-islamic...

"Why France's brave new war on ISIS is a sick joke, and an insult to the victims of the Paris attacks..."

quizzical

Paladin1 wrote:
Bec.De.Corbin wrote:
quizzical wrote:
Paladin1 wrote:
do you think children AREN'T being sold into sex slavery there? 

do you think children aren't being sold into sex slavery here and every fkn where else in the world?

if men stopped buying them the market would dry up.

look beyond your bigotry.

Nice dodge and side track... Wink

Yup.

I'll save the who created ISIS arguments for smarter people. I'm presently more worried about getting in there and saving the human beings from being in a real life Grand theft Auto game/ SAW movie.

nope. merely pointing out hypocrisy and standing glass houses while throwing stones.

 

NDPP

Qatar And Ukraine Come To Deliver Pechora-2D To ISIS

http://www.voltairenet.org/article189366.html

"Qatar has bought high-tech military equipment from Ukraine on behalf of ISIS. The operation took place in late September 2015, just before the Russian military action against the terrorist organization. It was approved by the US embassy in Doha..."

bekayne

Mr. Magoo wrote:

That ship's sailed.  The rabbits have their own agenda now.

Doug Woodard

[INTERVIEW] Former Al-Qaeda mufti condemns ISIL attacks. Long and vehement. He's a good debater and has a long memory for Western abuse of Islamic countries:

http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/talktojazeera/2015/11/abu-hafs-al-ma...

 

NDPP

If the NYT or Guardian runs the story let me know. What has your Uncle Sam been dropping on them over there the last year or so ?

Bec.De.Corbin Bec.De.Corbin's picture

NDPP wrote:

No it's because  all of the howling dogs of the Western media wurlitzer haven't said so...There may well be casualties that occur. But never fear Bec, because nobody will ever top the Everest that is ultimately Uncle Sam's bodycount. Ever.

Ever.

Here ya go look at the shit your boys are dropping over there on built up targets. 

Bec.De.Corbin Bec.De.Corbin's picture

Still dosn't get your guys off the hook now does it?

 

NDPP

Bombing is bad. People die.  Killing US takfiri merc monsters paid with Saudi/Qatari money, not as bad.

Here's the game:

US Intentionally Spare ISIS in Syria, Want Terrorists To Weaken Assad

https://www.rt.com/news/322482-lavrov-us-isis-assad

 

Like I said, let me know when you've got something other than trash by a proven liar.

 

Tyler Rogoway Sets Off A Global Disinformation Cascade

http://elementsofpower.blogspot.ca/2015/03/tyler-rogoway-sets-off-global...

"He owes the world an apology but don't hold your breath: it's his job...A low-brow disinformation cascade."

Bec.De.Corbin Bec.De.Corbin's picture

As compared to the trash you post from know liars? Ha.

quizzical

get a room

Paladin1

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/teen-joined-isis-beaten-death-leav...

 

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An Austrian teen who ran away to Syria last year to marry an ISIS fighter was beaten to death when she had a change of heart and tried to escape from the terror group, local media reported.

Islamic State fighters killed 17-year-old Samra Kesinovic after she tried to leave the terrorist-run city of Raqqa, a woman who once lived with the teen but successfully escaped the jihadists' reign told an Austrian tabloid.

NDPP

Kurdistan Official Asks For More Canadian Assistance But Also Investment

http://www.nationalnewswatch.com/2015/11/24/kurdistan-official-asks-for-...

"I would like to ask you to help us,' said Bakir. 'Ask your government to continue supplying us. Peshmerga who are bravely fighting ISIS on the front lines need your support.'

The semi-autonomous region of iraq has been fighting the Islamic State and dealing with close to two million displaced people, all while grappling with low oil prices that have affected energy producers worldwide.

'We live in a difficult world, a difficult neighbourhood, but with all the challenges we face, we've survived,' said Falah Mustafa Bakir, representing Iraqi Kurdistan, in a short visit to Canada this week..."

NDPP

Who Supports the Islamic State?

http://www.globalresearch.ca/who-supports-the-islamic-state-isis-saudi-a...

Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar, Israel, UK, France, USA

NDPP

Golan Heights: Why is Israeli IDF Military Talking To ISIL?  -  by William Engdahl

http://sptnkne.ws/ahtF

"Since the beginning of the Russian operations in Syria, details have emerged of the 'very dirty role' of Washington's close allies, including Turkey, the Gulf States and Israel..."

NDPP

Ankara's Oil Business With ISIS

https://www.rt.com/business/323391-isis-oil-business-turkey-russia/

"Turkish social media has posted photos of Turkish President Recep Edrogan's son Necmettin Bilal having dinner in an Istanbul restaurant with an alleged ISIS leader who it is claimed participated in massacres in Syria's Homs and Rojava, the Kurdish name for Syrian Kurdistan or Western Kurdistan.

There is speculation Bilal Erdogan is directly involved in the black market oil business with Islamic State.

'IS has big money, hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars, from selling oil. In addition they are protected by the military of an entire nation. One can understand why they are acting so boldly and blatantly. Why they kill people in such atrocious ways. Why they commit terrorist acts around the world, including in the heart of Europe,' said Russian President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday after a Turkish F16 downed a Russian Su-24 jet.

According to Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev, the middle men in Turkey are not only entrepreneurs, but Ankara officials. Islamic State is selling oil at $15-25 per barrel, which is much cheaper than the Brent benchmark trading at $45-50..."

Thinking people in Canada are going to have to come to grips with the scale and scope of international criminality, and the extent of Canadian involvement in it, including support for vicious international terrorism and continued NATO membership, in which a Canadian RCAF general led an air-war designed to destroy Libya, precipitating the formation of Islamic State and the refugee crisis.

 

NDPP

Raqqa's Rockefellers: How Islamic State Oil Flows to Israel

http://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/features/2015/11/26/raqqas-rockefellers...

"The Islamic State group uses millions of dollars in oil revenues to expand and manage vast areas under its control, home to around 5 million civilians. IS sells Iraqi and Syrian oil for a very low price to Kurdish and Turkish smuggling networks and mafias, who label it and sell it on as barrels from the Kurdistan Regional Government.

It is then most frequently transported from Turkey to Israel, via knowing or unknowing middlemen, according to al - Araby's investigation..."

NDPP

George Galloway's Comment: Who Has Been Financially Supporting Daesh? (and vid)

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2015/11/27/439343/Syria-Iraq-ISIL-ISIS-Dae...

"Russian President Vladimir Putin is infuriated that Turkey illegally struck down one of Russia's planes. Bue even more concerning is that Turkey has been buying oil smuggled from Daesh. Observers say ISIL is chiefly funded by Saudi Arabia and Qatar.."

 

Forget ISIS: Humanity Is At Stake  -  by Ramzy Baroud

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/11/27/forget-isis-humanity-is-at-stake/

"No - do not always expect the initials ISIS to offer an explanation for all that goes wrong..."

iyraste1313

what  I would dearly like to know is if Canada is denouncing Turkey for their act of war and threat to humanity by this?

If the Canadian government is demanding an end to Canadian oil companies engagement in the oil smuggling, financing ISIS not to mention the Erdogan cabal in power...and if not, why not?

This is a good test for our supposed new regime in Canada....what is essential is to challenge and discredit the system in Canada...this is one good starting point...why aren't wedemanding answers!!

NDPP

I agree, and the most important question would be given that Canada has supposedly been bombing ISIS for 15 months, why did we never bomb the most crucial aspect, the supply lines passing from Turkey to Syria, including the tanker convoys for ISIS oil? The answer can only be that this was a sham mission designed to pretend to fight ISIS while actually committed to its preservation as a valuable tool in the overriding objective of destroying Syria and overthrowing its government.

 

NDPP

ISIS: Ideology and Strategy

https://youtu.be/gyqZHqdVUGE

Paladin1

NDPP wrote:

I agree, and the most important question would be given that Canada has supposedly been bombing ISIS for 15 months, why did we never bomb the most crucial aspect, the supply lines passing from Turkey to Syria, including the tanker convoys for ISIS oil? The answer can only be that this was a sham mission designed to pretend to fight ISIS while actually committed to its preservation as a valuable tool in the overriding objective of destroying Syria and overthrowing its government.

 

I can't say to the true intentions but I think your 100% right that our targets were generally insignificant and more for show than effect.

NDPP

Commander: Iraqi Forces' Further Advance Against ISIL Blocked By US

http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13940908000800

"A commander of Iraq's volunteer forces complained that the US meddling in the fight against ISIL has impeded their victory over the Takfiri terrorist groups and prevented them from winning back the strategic cities of Ramadi and Fallujah..."

 

US Pilots Confirm: Obama Admin Blocks 75% of Islamic State Strikes

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/us-pilots-confirm-obama-admin-bl...

'We can't get clearance even when we have a clear target in front of us.' US pilot

"US military pilots who have returned from the fight against the Islamic State in Iraq are confirming tha they were blocked from dropping 75 percent of their ordinance on terror targets because they could not get clearance to launch a strike, according to a leading member of Congress. 

 

NDPP

'ISIS Sold Oil To Turkey on Black Market at Less Than 50% of Global Price': Iraqi MP

http://youtu.be/k4KIdoKK9oM

"Iraqi MP Dr Mowaffak al Rubaie, tells RT how ISIS manages to earn millions of dollars selling oil on the black market and reveals wounded terrorists are being treated in Turkish hospitals..."

iyraste1313

The question remains...who else benefits? en route to Israel? in transit to Europe? Which corporations are involved? And can they be charged under our so called Canada terrorism acts?

NDPP

Islamic State 'Has 300 Recruiters Online in US'

http://news.sky.com/story/1597962/islamic-state-has-300-recruiters-onlin...

"There are 900 active investigations into the extremist group's sympathisers across the US..."

 

iyraste1313

from Gordon Duff.....

For months, brokers working with, we are told Bechtel Corporation and British Petroleum, bought up a veritable sea of surplus tanker trucks across America.  Look at the highways, you can’t say you don’t notice.  Driven onto ships at the Port of Houston, they traveled east where they are now being destroyed by Russian bombers, trucks that used to ply America’s interstate highway system......

......Can't recall the extent of BP's investments in the tar sands et al...but surely the Liberal Government will prosecute them for their complicity! Along with the support of the Alberta NDP.....

NDPP

Children Born To ISIL Sex Slaves Are Taken To Be Trained into Murderers - Yazidi Aid Worker (and vid)

https://www.rt.com/shows/sophieco/324712-children-isil-sex-slaves/

"To get the truth of what's going on in ISIS occupied lands, we speak to an aid worker for the Yazda Group, which is helping rescued ISIL sex slaves. Vian is on Sophie&Co."

NDPP

San Bernardino Suspect Posted an ISIS Pledge to Facebook After Shooting Began

http://www.wired.com/2015/12/after-san-bernardino-shooting-began-suspect...

"A suspect in the San Bernadino massacre that killed 14 people and injured 12 others, posted a pledge of allegiance to ISIS on Facebook shortly after the rampage began. The FBI is now investigating the shooting as 'an act of terrorism.'

 

Daesh Executes Yemen's Ansarullah Fighters in Gruesome Videos

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2015/12/05/440343/Daesh-Yemen-terrorist-ex...

"The Daesh Takfiri terrorist group has released four new videos purportedly showing the gruesome execution of Yemen's Houthi Ansarullah fighters in different, shocking ways. Ansarullah fighters and allied army units are resisting the unabashed Saudi aggression against war-torn Yemen..."

 

Daesh Replacing Killed Militants With Children: US Colonel

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2015/12/04/440339/US-Daesh-military-Syria-...

"The move is indicative of their desperate efforts to 'replace the losses that they've experienced on the battlefield,' he added. He noted that the overwhelming majority of Daesh (ISIL) militants are 'military aged males'. His comments came a day after the group released a video purporting to show six of its child soldiers killing Syrian security forces captured by the terrorists."

NDPP

ISIL Funds Terror Through Charity

https://youtu.be/QbIuU73N74Y

"Islamic State is exploiting charities to fund its terror."

Doug Woodard

From Indonesia,  a Muslim challenge to the ideology of the Islamic State:

http://nyti.ms/1Nv2TnX

 

iyraste1313

"A suspect in the San Bernadino massacre that killed 14 people and injured 12 others, posted a pledge of allegiance to ISIS on Facebook shortly after the rampage began....

interesting! a 125 pound 5 foot woman loaded to the nines with heavy machinery, took time out from her violent rampage of killing to post on facebook....

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