BREAKING: Jakarta Terror Attack in Indonesia

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Thu, 2016-01-14 01:58

NDPP

Multiple Explosions, Gunfire in Central Jakarta, Indonesia Near Cafe & UN Agency Office (and vid

https://www.rt.com/news/328828-indonesia-jakarta-terror-attack-cafe/

"At least 6 blasts went off in the city center of the Indonesian capital of Jakarta in an apparent terrorist attack involving suicide bombers. Witnesses describe casualties, chaotic scenes and exchanges of gunfire with police.

Police say attackers arrived on motorcycles and threw grenades. There were 10 to 14 attackers involved in the Jakarta blasts. 'We have previously received a threat from Islamic State that Indonesia will be in the spotlight,' police spokesman Anton Charliyan said."

Suspected ISIS Attacks in Jakarta: LIVE UPDATES

https://www.rt.com/news/328844-indonesia-suicide-attacks-isis/

"The Indonesian capital of Jakarta has been rocked by multiple explosions and gunfire that have killed several people and injured dozens more as suspected suicide attacks reportedly carried out by Islamic State militants.

Some of the gunmen are reportedly hiding out in the Jakarta Theatre, a cinema near the affected area. A lot of people are believed to be still inside..."

Thu, 2016-01-14 02:35

NDPP

#JakartaBlasts

Watch Live-Stream

http://www.aljazeera.com/watch_now/

Sat, 2016-01-16 21:30

swallow

Indonesian president's resposne draws praise....

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What makes these statements notable is subtle, and in part a function of omission. First, notice the subdued yet serious way Jokowi describes the impact of the attacks: They disrupted public security. They disturbed the peace. The government’s response is characterized as a policing matter. He stresses that Indonesians shouldn’t be spooked and that the situation is under control. He focuses on counteracting the primary goal of terrorism—to terrorize the broader population, to mess with people’s heads. “The people,” he says, “should not be defeated.” (A “We Are Not Afraid” hashtag cropped up on Indonesian Twitter in the hours after the attack.)

Then there’s what Jokowi omits: He does not declare that Indonesia is at war with the Islamic State, radical Islam, or terrorism. He does not suggest the future of Indonesia is at stake. He does not sound alarms.

Compare Jokowi’s response to Francois Hollande’s reaction to ISIS’s attacks in Paris last year. Three days after the rampage, the French president stood before Parliament and proclaimed that “France is at war.” He made several of the same points Jokowi did, urging calm and expressing confidence in the capacity of the French government and people to prevail against the perpetrators. But in calling for escalated air strikes against ISIS in Syria and Iraq, an extended state of emergency in France, and an expanded national-security apparatus, he framed the fight in far more epic and dire terms than his Indonesian counterpart did...

[url=http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/01/joko-widodo-ind... president's remarkable response to terrorism[/url]

Sat, 2016-01-16 23:28

NDPP

Canadian Killed in Jakarta Attacks, Brother Seriously Hurt

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/jakarta-attacks-1.340719

"A Canadian killed during shooting attacks in Indonesia on Thursday was from Quebec. Taher Amer-Ouali was 70 and lived in Laval. His brother Mourad was seriously injured in the attacks. He remains in hospital..."

Indonesia Snubs 'Anti-Terror' Coalition...Then Its Capital Gets Hit - by Finian Cunningham

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/329034-indonesia-snubs-saudi-terror/

"It is believed that Saudi Arabia has been behind the funding of radical Islamist groups within Indonesia going back several years, according to the Financial Times..."

Sun, 2016-01-17 04:00

Mr. Magoo

According to Wikipedia, "Indonesia also has a larger Muslim population than any other country in the world, with approximately 202.9 million identifying themselves as Muslim (87.2% of Indonesia's total population in 2011).

Do you suppose that could be a factor? Or is the government of Indonesia just wiser and more grown-up than those silly French?

Sun, 2016-01-17 17:26

swallow

Mr. Magoo wrote:

According to Wikipedia, "Indonesia also has a larger Muslim population than any other country in the world, with approximately 202.9 million identifying themselves as Muslim (87.2% of Indonesia's total population in 2011).

Do you suppose that could be a factor? Or is the government of Indonesia just wiser and more grown-up than those silly French?

Yes. Indonesia is the largest Muslim country in the world and is known as leader of "liberal Islam."

Indonesia's president also offers a more mature and rational response than France's president (not at all a silly man) did.

Both these things are true. Is there a point you are trying to make?

Sun, 2016-01-17 17:31

Unionist

swallow wrote:
Is there a point you are trying to make?

We both know the answer to that question. In fact, all three of us know.

Sun, 2016-01-17 17:46

Mr. Magoo

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Both these things are true. Is there a point you are trying to make?

Ya, that maybe it's a bit like how the U.S. government isn't losing their shit and sending in tactical nukes in Oregon.

Sun, 2016-01-17 18:31

swallow

So your point is that all Muslims live in one country together? Or is your point that Jokowi is like Obama in some way?

Sun, 2016-01-17 18:45

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Mr. Magoo

My point is that lots of folk are satisfied to assume that Ammon Bundy isn't cooling his heels in the paddywagon because he and his be-Stetsoned dudebros are of the majority culture and the majority religion, and that somewhere along the line, even if the TV cameras didn't catch it, there was a wink between him and the government.

So I guess in the spirit of that, I'm wondering whether, perhaps, maybe, the government of Indonesia might have similarly realized that they don't need to overreact to this to satisfy the peeps.

Sun, 2016-01-17 21:23

#11

swallow

Who knows? I just know it's a more measured reaction and wish we saw more of that sort of response.

But Indonesians are no more Middle Eastern than Quebecois are Filipino.

Sun, 2016-01-17 21:29

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kropotkin1951

swallow wrote:

Who knows? I just know it's a more measured reaction and wish we saw more of that sort of response.

But Indonesians are no more Middle Eastern than Quebecois are Filipino.

I wonder what the Filipinos in Quebec think of that idea? Are they the other or are they part of the Quebec nation?

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They settled in Montreal, where jobs were prospering. Actually, in Quebec, over 60% of the Filipinos reside in Cote-des-Neiges borough of Montreal City and around Decarie Highway. This area is known for its high concentration of new immigrants and, unfortunately for its levels of poverty. In fact, Montreal is the fifth largest Filippino community in Canada.

There are many Filippino establishments and professional offices in the city. The Filipino Association of Montreal and Suburbs is an advocacy group for Filippino Canadians in Quebec. Note than unlike many other communities from Asian countries, most of Filippino Canadians are fluent in French.

Finally, let’s say that the majority of Filipino-Canadians living in Quebec are women who make up about 55% of the population.

http://provincequebec.com/cultural-communities/filippino-community/

Sun, 2016-01-17 21:35

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kropotkin1951

Mr. Magoo wrote:

So I guess in the spirit of that, I'm wondering whether, perhaps, maybe, the government of Indonesia might have similarly realized that they don't need to overreact to this to satisfy the peeps.

Maybe they just have a far more sophisticated political system than the US. One that is more representative of its people from all regions and faiths. The US FPTP and electoral college model is by far one of the worst systems and results in bad government.

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The People's Consultative Assembly (Indonesian: Majelis Permusyawaratan Rakyat, MPR) is the legislative branch in Indonesia's political system. Following elections in 2004, the MPR became a bicameral parliament, with the creation of the DPD as its second chamber in an effort to increase regional representation.[8] The Regional Representatives Council (Indonesian: Dewan Perwakilan Daerah, DPD) is the upper house of The People's Consultative Assembly. The lower house is The People's Representative Council (Indonesian: Dewan Perwakilan Rakyat, DPR), sometimes referred to as the House of Representatives, which has 550 members, elected for a five-year term by proportional representation in multi-member constituencies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Indonesia