Trudeaumetre - Bravo!

so now Monty is trying to equate personal approval numbers with party support -- see post 595 where he says there is 70% in a discussion of votes and support and later the link to 64% in job approval not voter support.

monty1 wrote:

Trudeau is up to 64% approval here but that's not the bad part. The lying liars tell  us more.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/grenier-approval-ratings-polls-1.3363911

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Problematic for the New Democrats, however, is how Mulcair stacks up against Trudeau among NDP voters. Forum and EKOS put Trudeau's approval rating among New Democrats at between 67 and 72 per cent, with just 15 per cent standing in disapproval. By comparison, Mulcair scored a 71 to 77 per cent approval rating among New Democrats, with his disapproval rating sitting at 14 to 18 per cent.

Well that has to be a lie. It puts Trudeau's popularity pretty much  the same as Mucair's AMONGST NDPe'ers

This is from six or seven weeks ago. Before the TPP sellout, the NEB lies unfolding in the streets of Burnaby and the broken promise on killing Iraqi and Syrian civilians.

You can't even be honest about polling data and are trying to sell this as some sort of current reading of the Trudeau Liars. But tell me again you were really an NDP voter in the past. LMAOROF

kropotkin1951 wrote:

monty1 wrote:

Trudeau is up to 64% approval here but that's not the bad part. The lying liars tell  us more.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/grenier-approval-ratings-polls-1.3363911

Quote:

Problematic for the New Democrats, however, is how Mulcair stacks up against Trudeau among NDP voters. Forum and EKOS put Trudeau's approval rating among New Democrats at between 67 and 72 per cent, with just 15 per cent standing in disapproval. By comparison, Mulcair scored a 71 to 77 per cent approval rating among New Democrats, with his disapproval rating sitting at 14 to 18 per cent.

Well that has to be a lie. It puts Trudeau's popularity pretty much  the same as Mucair's AMONGST NDPe'ers

This is from six or seven weeks ago. Before the TPP sellout, the NEB lies unfolding in the streets of Burnaby and the broken promise on killing Iraqi and Syrian civilians.

You can't even be honest about polling data and are trying to sell this as some sort of current reading of the Trudeau Liars. But tell me again you were really an NDP voter in the past. LMAOROF

Nawww kropotkin, I'm not trying to sell it as anything. It's a link I found when I decided to get into the pissing match with sean and his ilk again. If you think Mulcair's popularity amongst NDP'ers is higher than Trudeau's then show me the stats. For now, I'm sticking with my position of Mulcair being done like dinner.

Jacob Two-Two wrote:

monty1 wrote:

The NDP must now try to get their act together and support the LIberals in any chance they get. That is their way out of the jackpot and their way to a future. And that's being very kind and generous toward them because the Liberals don't need them with the majority they have.

Hahahahahaha! You are so obviously full of shit. Don't you people ever get embarrassed? No of course not. How could you shill for the Liberals if you did?

It's not the difference between the Libs and the NDP that needs to worry you, my friend. It's the difference between the Liberals and the Liberals, or morespecifically what they say and what they do, because never the twain shall meet. No, I don't think I'll be joinging you in your fantasy land and supporting a party that is selling Canadian sovereignty to foreign corporations, who presided over the biggest increase in greenhouse gases in the country's history, who signed the Kyoto accord and then a few years later said, "Yeah, we never really meant that". Who voted C-51 into law, turning our country into a police state, and now wants to "consult" about which rights to return, if any. Who steal our tax money (literally steal, as in take revenues they have no legal right to) and enable Canadian billionaires to sneak their cash out of the country so they don't have to pay their share.

You are a chump if you believe the flimsy rationalisations for these crimes, and I will not be joining you in chumpville. If the NDP folded tomorrow, I still would not be joinging you, because I get that politics isn't about choosing which punch in the face might urt the least. It's about building something positive and productive. This will nevetr happen with the party of liars and thieves, otherwise known as the Liberals.

Indeed Jacob! 

Terrible news for you, good news for the environment.

www.cbc.ca/news/politics/environmental-regulations-pipelines-1.

Natural Resources Minister Jim Carr and Environment Minister Catherine McKenna announced Wednesday that the government is launching an interim review process that will impose more steps on projects such as Kinder Morgan's Trans Mountain and TransCanada's Energy East pipelines before they can be built. 

"We believe it is important and, in fact, essential to rebuild Canadians' trust in our environmental assessment processes," McKenna told a news conference Wednesday.

"We need to take into account the views and concerns of Canadians, respect the rights and interests of indigenous peoples and support our natural resources sector."

Moving forward, the environment ministry will analyze greenhouse gas emissions that would result from approving pipeline projects. The results from that study would then be presented to cabinet, which will make the final decision on whether to approve a project.

The process will also include greater public, and indigenous consultations on projects, something that is not currently part of the National Energy Board regulatory regime.

The new process will be separate from the existing NEB, and take place after the regulator has completed its review of proposed projects.

So let me see if I have this straight, you, Pondering, a person I've never met in my life, thinks my dear, departed Darelne (Blessed be her memory) is owed my apology? And you know this, how?

Pondering, not only was I married to Darlene, I served with her. So I shared something with her that transcneds ANY of your experience.You know NOTHING about the idea of Military Service, and what motivates people do to so, and NEVER will. But this shared experience of my wife and I allowed us to share in a way that transcends YOUR experience in EVERY way, and was an important part of Darlene and I.

The thing that galls me the most about your comment is that it implies somehow, YOU KNOW DARLENE BETTER THAN !. How could that be possible Pondering? You must really believe that or you wouldn't have said it. My wife never told me in all of our years she felt anyting other than proud of me and certain that I was a good man, period! You have NO IDEA, at ALL, what you are talking about, but that has never kept you from pontificating on here regardless of subject area.

I've been away as I've been studyong Sociopathy, Pychopathy, and Narcissim, trying to get an insite into your posts. I've ruled out Sociopathy and  pychopathy, but think Narcissim might help with gaining insite. But, I'm not  a Pyschiatrist, so what do I knnow? That woudln't stop you though, would it?

This whole thing started because you couldn't stand the idea that there was validity in my invoking my wife's memory in making a poliical  point. It wasn't that I made the point, the issue for you was that I had the temerity to attack the Liberals. That is all it is about. That is ALL all of this between you and me is about; nothing else. I remind you that you had long before invoked the memory of your husband (blessed be his memory), and as I have said before, I am sorry for his loss, in attacking Quebec, its inhabitants, the NDP, Tom Mulcair and pretty much anyone else that you saw as a politcal enemy. And I use the word, POLITICAL, on purpose. That is all any of your posts are about; NOTHING ELSE!

I have never attacked your late husband, I would never have the insensitivty or frankly, the nasitiness in me to do so. But that doesn't seem to stop you. There is OBVIOUSLY NO LINE YOU WON'T CROSS! NONE!

OK, I get it now. You simply don't care what anyone writes. And you don't feel there is any limit on what you can say. I can't speak to the pyschology of why you are the way you are, but I can say I feel thankful I'm not your friend. I'd be asking myself what was wrong with my judgement.

Have a nice day, Pondering.

Arthur Cramer wrote:

Myself and so many others on here have said we'll be the first to cheer if Trudeau delivers.

Like you cheered him for having gender parity in his cabinet and reopening the coast guard station and overtuning the anti-union laws?

I've lost count of the number of complaints I've received about this thread. AC and Pondering, congratulate yourselves. Your inability of disagree respectfully has polluted this thread with vindictive and insulting personal attacks to the extent that I'm going to close it.

On another note, those of you who want me to ban a certain new babbler will be disappointed. Being a supporter of the LPC is not a banning offense. It does not violate babble policy.