Anti-Globalization Movement Is Looking For A Home In Canada

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terrytowel
Anti-Globalization Movement Is Looking For A Home In Canada

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terrytowel

Pundits say Trump leads in the polls because he has captured the Anti-Globalization Movement in the US

In the UK it is Jeremy Corbin who Anti-Globalization groups are rallying behind.

How come Anti-Globalization groups don't have a party to align with in Canada? In the US and the UK they are drawing huge crowds for their leaders.

Who will pick up the torch in Canada? That is a huge space that no one is occupying right now.

Why not the NDP?

voice of the damned

Well, while there may be a few Venn overlaps between the two ideologies, I would say that Trumpism and Corbynism are two pretty different beasts, including in terms of the way they define "globalization".

I think that "anti-globalization" as defined by Trump is represented in the UK not by Jeremy Corbyn, but by Nigel Farage. And "anti-globalization" as defined by Jeremy Corbyn is represented in the US not by Trump, but by Bernie Sanders. These are two pretty different tendencies, and while I could see the NDP adopting the Corbyn/Sanders version, I can't really see them adopting the Farage/Trump version. Unless you want anti-Islam and anti-immigration to become centrepieces of NDP policy.  

And, if we're talking about the Corbyn/Sanders version, then I think the question is not so much "Why isn't the NDP more anti-globalization?", but "Why isn't the NDP more socialist?" Which I think is a question people have been debating on this forum for some time now.

voice of the damned

And it was amusing to see the supposed America Firster Donald Trump endorsing Samsung over Apple in the encryption debate the other day!

http://tinyurl.com/hj8beoo

 

lagatta

"Antiglobalisation" was a catchword at the dawn of the 21st century, but indeed it has been sorted into generally left and right camps. And there are even nastier rightwing ones in Hungary and Greece.

The World Social Forum will be taking place in Montréal this year. Yes, I know the WSF doesn't have as much wind in its sails now as it did in the early 2000s, but it will be an opportunity to discuss building progressive "alterglobalisation" movements.

terrytowel

Could you tie in the fight for Climate Change with a push for anti-globalization?

Pondering

Burnie Sanders is the "anti-globalization" as he is the one who wants to rip up trade-deals including NAFTA.

ygtbk

Both Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump want to abrogate NAFTA, although the wisdom of their position is (putting it mildly) up for debate:

http://capitolstartup.com/9-issues-economist-across-the-political-spectrum-overwhelmingly-agree-on/

voice of the damned

terrytowel wrote:

Could you tie in the fight for Climate Change with a push for anti-globalization?

Well, you see, that's an issue where it gets tricky, because you are then inviting the "neo-liberal" apologists to fire back with "If you guys are so worked up about defending national sovereignty, how come you're all in favour of signing climate treaties that over-rule local control in favour of global standards?"

I gather that "alterglobalization"(referenced here by Lagatta) was meant to address issues like this, ie. conceding that, yes, globalization is a good thing(as exemplified by climate-change treaties), but that the process shouldn't just be dictated outright by corporate interests(as exemplified by the TPP.)

Personally, I just avoid the whole "globalization" trope altogether, as I think it's kind of a red herring on the progressive pathway(sorry for the mixed metaphor).

iyraste1313

Could you tie in the fight for Climate Change with a push for anti-globalization?

...What with their cap and trade? More centralist taxes to the corporate states?

The Climate Change movement inspite of its rhetoric of system change has totally hitched itself to globalization, macro economics and centralization....a problem and distraction for a true anti gloabalist movement based on the ideals of regional autonomy!

 

Why not the NDP?.....

The NDP has hitched its ride to power to the corporate empires though their submissive collaborationist unions...anyone who can still take hope in the reform of the NDP really should be writing in fantasy fiction pages!

lagatta

Voice of the damned, yes, that is why "antiglobalisation" has become "altermondialisation" among some French (and other Latin) speakers. Some rightwingers and even some outright fascists, in particular in Greece, latched onto the concept.

In particular to bridge the gap between movements that have to be global, such as the struggle against climate change (and ecocide in general) and the corporate domination of "globalisation".

Pondering

ygtbk wrote:

Both Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump want to abrogate NAFTA, although the wisdom of their position is (putting it mildly) up for debate:

http://capitolstartup.com/9-issues-economist-across-the-political-spectrum-overwhelmingly-agree-on/

So we are supposed to take the advice of economists fully invested in the current neoliberal model? I noticed there was no "either or" options. For example, predatory leading not tax breaks for morgages led to the collapse so regulation is the solution not altering the tax system.

We wouldn't need to import skilled workers Americans (and Canadians) were better educated.