Brexit

Like the NDP in Canada now Labour Party is dead in the water

Furious Nigel Farage to take control of Britain's exit from the EU in Brussels after Vote Leave freezes him out

Nigel Farage has reacted with fury after Vote Leave said it would exclude him from a cross-party committee which will negotiate Britain’s exit from the European Union.

The UK Independence Party leader said that he would use his position as head of the Ukip group in the European Parliament – the biggest group  of British MEPs – to ensure he had a say over the terms of British breakaway from the EU.

Senior Vote Leave sources on Friday made clear that Mr Farage would not be invited to join the committee negotiating the Brexit.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/25/furious-nigel-farage-to-take-...

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• Immigrants 'became a scapegoat' in Brexit vote, and it worked

This is what happens when people give up on democracy, on the political system. It is just too corrupt.

To have allowed somebody's rich kid like Cameron to have so much control over the future of one's country, well.......this is the result.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKFTtYx2OHc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_People_(song)

from the Independent

Credit ratings agency Moody's has downgraded the UK Government's bond rating from stable to negative in light of Britain's decision to leave the European Union.

The agency warns Britain's economic growth will be weaker, its economic policymaking may be diminished and the government's fiscal strength reduced

Moody's said: "Moody's expects a negative impact on the economy unless the UK government manages to negotiate a trade deal that largely replicates its current access to the Single Market.

...Moody´s that totally corrupt arm of the corporate elite?

The beginnings of the counterattack!

What England needs now is for the London area to become the "Free State of Khan" arising out of the UK's ashes, eh! 

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/true-story-free-state-jones-180958...

Pravda: Czechia, Hungary, Slovakia, and Greece are ready to leave EU

By GPD on June 25, 2016

A referendum on leaving the EU has taken place in Great Britain, where the Brexit supporters gained victory. 52% of the British are reported to have voted for exit. Petr Iskenderov, senior fellow at the Institute of Slavic Studies, told Pravda.Ru about consequences Britain and the whole world face after Brexit.

How will the changed power balance influence the EU?

Britain leaves EU. Who’s next?

First of all, it should be noted that it will happen not immediately, as the parties should implement a number of legal procedures, which will regulate further relationship between London and Brussels. But the consequences will certainly take place. First, eurosceptic mood will strengthen in other EU countries and the same campaigns on organization of suchreferendums may be expected in Central and Eastern Europe, in particular in the Czech Republic, Hungary, and Slovakia, as well as in the Mediterranean, Greece first of all. Second, we can expect yet another referendum in Scotland, as it voted for remain of Great Britain in the EU, and leaders of movement for Scotland’s independence have already declared that they would initiate a second referendum on leaving Britain. Third, there will be change of power balance in foreign policy. Positions of adherents of hard policy towards Russia will evidently weaken, as the Scandinavian countries, the Baltics and Poland were guided namely by Great Britain and the PM Cameron, who declared about his intention to leave.

Which will be the results in countries, where such referendums would take place? In France, in the Netherlands?

It is necessary to change the ruling coalition in France to carry out such referendum. It will be possible if National Front achieves success at the coming parliamentary elections. The same is in Germany. A victory of the Alternative for Germany movement is needed to conduct alike referendum. However in Central and Eastern Europe, as well as in Greece, one can carry out referendums under current political conditions, and victory of those who support exit from the EU is possible.

Nobody is next, and Brits will now be doing their best to reverse it.

Aristotleded24 wrote:

Which "radio?" The MSM all around the world was in the tank for "Remain," but the MSM hasn't done a good job of telling people what's going on. There are so many issues they're not covering properly, issues like poverty and climate change, and they were caught flat-footed when the economy crashed in 2007-2008. As for Escobar, when he was on The Real News, I found him to be effective in seeing through Obama's BS right at the start. Or I guess we should all accept that Brad Wall is a great guy and a wonderful Premier because the Saskatchewan media says he is.

It was the noon show and the afternoon show, but that old MSM shill Noam Chomsky says the same thing. This is going to push Britain toward North America, not away from it. Not sure what he thinks about Brad Wall, if that is relevant.

http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/What-5-Leading-Leftists-Think-Abou...

NorthReport wrote:

Wow!  

The Sun, Not the Rain, Tipped the U.K. Vote

http://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-06-24/the-sun-not-the-rain-t...

After Brexit, European Left Calls for 'Massive Political Opposition'

In the tumultuous aftermath of the UK's vote to leave the EU, the European left is responding with a mix of reason, measured reassurances, and righteous defiance.

Left Unity, a populist UK political party, released a statement early Friday morning that criticized the right-wing organizers of the Leave campaign and vowed to "step up the fight against neo-liberalism here—opposing all cuts, defending the NHS [National Health Service], fighting for decent housing—and across Europe."

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"Under these conditions, it's even more important that organizations and activists redouble their efforts to oppose toxic trade deals, corporate power grabs and above all defend the rights and dignity of migrants," Dearden said.

Left Unity concluded its message by calling for a "massive political opposition to neo-liberalism, against austerity and poverty" throughout the continent.

"We watch the advance of the left in Europe—particularly where there is newfound cooperation and unity in Spain and Portugal—with our hearts filled with hope," the group said. "But we also watch with grave concern the rise of the far right across Europe as well as in Britain. We need urgently to consolidate our forces against this growing tendency."

In Spain, the leftist party Podemos responded to the vote by saying, "We need to end austerity to end this disaffection and this existential crisis of the European project. We need to democratize decision making, guarantee social rights and respect human rights."

You make therm sound like prisoners. Last time I checked you can leave the EC.

josh wrote:

NorthReport wrote:

Like the NDP in Canada now Labour Party is dead in the water

Furious Nigel Farage to take control of Britain's exit from the EU in Brussels after Vote Leave freezes him out

Nigel Farage has reacted with fury after Vote Leave said it would exclude him from a cross-party committee which will negotiate Britain’s exit from the European Union.

The UK Independence Party leader said that he would use his position as head of the Ukip group in the European Parliament – the biggest group  of British MEPs – to ensure he had a say over the terms of British breakaway from the EU.

Senior Vote Leave sources on Friday made clear that Mr Farage would not be invited to join the committee negotiating the Brexit.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/25/furious-nigel-farage-to-take-...

What does that have to do with the Labour Party? And keep on shilling for the EU, the entity that crushed democracy in Greece and sentenced the Greek and Spanish people to an unending 20% plus unemployment rate.

Remain supporters seem to want a do-over.

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More than two million people have signed a petition calling for a second EU referendum, after the vote to leave.

It has more signatures than any other on the parliamentary website and as it has passed 100,000, Parliament will consider it for a debate.

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The petitions website states it was set up by an individual called William Oliver Healey, and says: "We the undersigned call upon HM Government to implement a rule that if the Remain or Leave vote is less than 60%, based on a turnout less than 75%, there should be another referendum."

from Rabble`s article.....

racist "blame the immigrants for neoliberalism" tendency we've seen grab hold.....

...this really is missing the point and the reason why the left has dropped the ball!
Globalization is a failure for the mass populations...so desperate to find alternatives...and there is a left decentralist socialist alternative...but where is it being enunciated?

This is why the right movements are gaining ground, why the working classes, the precariots are abandoing the social democratic lefties...they have no solutions to globalization! They don`t reject the system of finance capital ad nauseum!

Which is mirrored in these rabble threads

Mr. Magoo wrote:

Remain supporters seem to want a do-over.

Just took a look at your link and noticed the protester with the sign "No Borders"

Safe to assume her house doesn't have locks?

@ Paladin.

A bit less like not locking your doors. More like getting rid of your house altogether, along with your job, your friends,  and everything else, which is what many Europeans and Britons are going to have to do because of this.

Or in Northern Ireland, having your house blown up.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/24/northern-irish-pea...

And the question of a new referendum, or how to deal with this one, is no longer academic; it will be debated.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215

Maybe they'll treat the gasoline and matches a bit more carefully this time.

As for leave kicking up a fuss:

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Nigel Farage warns today he would fight for a second referendum on Britain in Europe if the remain campaign won by a narrow margin next month.

The Ukip leader said a small defeat for his leave camp would be “unfinished business” and predicted pressure would grow for a re-run of the 23 June ballot.

Farage told the Mirror: “In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way. If the remain campaign win two-thirds to one-third that ends it.”

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nigel-farage-wants-second-referendum-7985017

6079_Smith_W wrote:

@ Paladin.

A bit less like not locking your doors. More like getting rid of your house altogether, along with your job, your friends,  and everything else, which is what many Europeans and Britons are going to have to do because of this.

Or in Northern Ireland, having your house blown up.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/24/northern-irish-pea...

..real debate is not tolerated. only lies and fear are allowed. real debate needs to be carved out from the bottom up.

eta: this is one of those rare moments when change can take place for the good. people could grab hold and take risks.

The economic impact.

Well they are now, and they are legally bound to debate it.

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Well they are now, and they are legally bound to debate it.

But not legally bound to debate it with gusto, or in good faith.

Wasn't the U.S. government similarly "legally bound" to recognize the petition to deport Justin Bieber, because it too had some number of signatures?

If he said that he is talking out of both sides of his mouth. Just weeks ago he said a narrow win would require a second referendum. See #334 above.

And Magoo, I think they might debate this with a spirit more fitting to the petition's intent.

Scotland Starts Toward Independence Vote to Keep EU Ties

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-06-25/scots-leaders-prepare-...

Hopping over to Quebec to get some beer after the LCBO closes seems different from crossing borders in EU. I'd imagine there's different rules and laws for each country? I traveled a bit (Hungary, Germany, UK, Belgium, Luxembourg, Slovinia, Austria etc.) and it didn't seem too too drastic but there was still a cultural difference between countries.

So with this decision UK people will have their travel plans drastically changed?