Russia 2

As Helmer's piece makes obvious. Prokhorov, trying to save his bacon issued the fire orders. As you will know from the Canadian experience with Thomson or Black etc, media proprietors worldwide are free to fire editors and do so  whenever they want.

NDPP wrote:

World Sports Police?

https://youtu.be/IeFq5UcRo4U

"US Justice Dept launches investigation into Russia doping scandal.."

Peter Lavelle of Crosstalk fame did a whole program this week about US efforts to replace international law with US law. That's what empires do. Almost 60 years of an embargo against heroic Cuba stands out (the US sanctions businesses that trade with Cuba, by sanctioning related companies working in the US, for example, for the last almost 60 years) but by no means the only case; Canadian Marc Emery basically had to turn himself in to US custody.

The US takes advantage of loopholes and gaps in international law to impose their own Pax Americana.

All those who oppose the Emperor die! That is the true message of the lidless eye in Washington.

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/kremlin-experts-blame-condoms...

The institute's deputy director Tatyana Guzenkova said that HIV and AIDS were used as part of the information war against Russia.

Guzenkova said that there are two models for fighting HIV: Western and Russian.

She defined the Western method of fighting HIV as made of “neoliberal ideological content, insensitivity towards national sensitivities and over-focus of certain at-risk groups such as drug addicts and LGBT people,” Kommersant reported.

The Russian model “takes into account the cultural, historical, and psychological characteristics of the Russian population, and is based on a conservative ideology and traditional values,” Guzenkova said.

Study co-author Igor Beloborodov claimed that condoms were one of the factors causing the spread of the disease.

“The contraceptive industry is interested in selling their products and encouraging under-aged people to engage in sex,” he said.

Beloborodov said that the best form of protection against HIV was to “be in a heterosexual family where both partners are loyal to each other.”

 

Putin is Growing Organic Power One T-34 Tank-Tomato At a Time

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2016-06-07/putin-is-growing-organ...

"Russia is able to become the world's largest supplier of healthy, ecologically clean and high-quality food, which Western producers have long lost,' Putin told parliament.

Russia last year joined dozens of nations in banning the commerical planting of genetically modified organisms and has since barred GMO inports - putting Putin at the vanguard of an increasingly vocal global movement.

But the crowning achievement of his food strategy so far is grain. Russia overtook the US this year to become the biggest exporter of wheat -- a milestone that followed bumper yields of corn, rice, soybeans and buckwheat..."

A Russian school girl's view of the "civilizational differences" : On the Russian World and European Civilization

Ivan Ilyin wrote:

“Europe cannot grasp us … because the Slavic and Russian way of contemplating the world, nature, and man is something alien to it. Humanity in Western Europe is motivated by will and intellect. The Russian people are above all guided by their hearts and imaginations, relegating the mind and will to a supporting role. Therefore, the average European is ashamed of sincerity, scruples, and kindness, viewing them as “foolishness.”

What the author finds "barbaric" about European Civilization plenty of others do too. We're just the dissenting minority.

https://www.rt.com/news/331194-putin-meets-friend-kissinger/

Russian President Vladimir Putin has continued his “long-standing, friendly relations” with former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger as the pair took the "opportunity to talk" at a meeting in his residence outside Moscow.

The meeting is a continuation of a “friendly dialogue between President Putin and Henry Kissinger, who are bound by a long-standing relationship,” said Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov.

“They communicate all the time, use the opportunity to talk,” he added. Putin “values” this opportunity to discuss pressing international issues as well as exchange opinions on global perspectives, Peskov said.

In contrast to feverish fantasies promoting a convicted embezzler and fraud, Russian FM S Lavrov has a great piece about Russian contributions to world and European civilization. The whole article is worth a read but I like the following, particularly ...

Sergey Lavrov wrote:

Speaking about Russia's role in the world as a great power, Russian philosopher Ivan Ilyin said that the greatness of a country is not determined by the size of its territory or the number of its inhabitants, but by the capacity of its people and its government to take on the burden of great world problems and to deal with these problems in a creative manner. A great power is the one which, asserting its existence and its interest ... introduces a creative and meaningful legal idea to ​​the entire assembly of the nations, the entire “concert” of the peoples and states. It is difficult to disagree with these words.

"Russia’s Foreign Policy: Historical Background"

A very well written piece.

Is Derluguian some kind of neo-Trotskyist? He's got articles like "The Color Revolution Betrayed" and the like. Laments about failed George Soros style attempts to overthrow post-Soviet governments aligns Derlurguian with the US State Department.

I think it is time to ban Russia at least from the Rio Olympics, and if they don't clean up their doping act, ban them permanently from any future Olympics.

Sad to see people trying to justify bad behavior.

Grigory Rodchenkov is no more reliable than a common criminal. He has his secret lab, tucked away at US-taxpayer expense, after having been caught in all sorts of illegal activity himself. He is doing what thousands of suspects do in the barbarous US Gulag-like legal system; he's lying about others to save his own despicable hide. And the useful idiots lap it up like it's mother's milk.

Serious journalists are expected to find secondary sources for their stories. So are the police. But when it comes to Russia, any sniveling idiot can make a claim, ruining the lives of thousands, because there is never any checking and no one suffers anything for lying about that country.

Banning hundreds of completely innocent athletes, some participating in the Olympics for the first time, as well as many officials, on the spurious, unsubstantiated claims of such a criminal is a disgrace. It's simply warfare by another means.

Why not simply do a Reagan, say that Russia has been "banned forever" and joke about bombing that country beginning in 5 minutes?

What an evil farce.

It's just getting worse and worse. And Canada is playing a most revolting role in the whole thing.

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One demand more than any other demonstrates how ugly this affair has become.  The IAAF and now the sports bodies of the US and Canada are not only demanding that Russian athletes prove their innocence before they can take part in the Games.  They also demand that even if athletes prove their innocence, they should only be allowed to take part in the Games as “neutrals” and not as Russians.  Thus even if proved innocent Russian athletes would have to deny their nation and their country – foregoing the right to wear its colours or hear its anthem if they win.

Despicable.

The Duran: a Stalinist Witch-Hunt against Russian Athletes

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Under the 1949 Geneva Conventions, collective punishment is a war crime. By collective punishment, the drafters of the Geneva Conventions had in mind the reprisal killings of World War I and World War II.

Well, and surely also someone not being invited to participate in a sporting event... yes?  Or what's your point with this?

You seem to be going with the tried-and-true "A Few Bad Apples" rebuttal.

Mr. Magoo wrote:

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Under the 1949 Geneva Conventions, collective punishment is a war crime. By collective punishment, the drafters of the Geneva Conventions had in mind the reprisal killings of World War I and World War II.

Well, and surely also someone not being invited to participate in a sporting event... yes?  Or what's your point with this?

You seem to be going with the tried-and-true "A Few Bad Apples" rebuttal.

Collective punishment, in war or not, is illegal. I was providing some legal history for those who care about such things, beyond - you know - "Round up the usual Russian suspects".

Try to pay attention. There will be a test afterwards. heh.

NorthReport wrote:

... Russia, it would appear, needs to be stripped of at least some of its previous medals

Should they skip over the "evidence" part in those cases? How about torturing Russian athletes? What do you think? They're sure to confess then. Maybe we can solve the Kennedy assassination as well, while we're at it.

There is tons of evidence but more importantly why are you condoning corrupt behavior?

- from the Guardian article above

Russia could be banned from competing at the Rio Olympics after a damning report lifted the lid on a state-sponsored doping cover-up involving Vladimir Putin’s right-hand man, the Russian intelligence services and top sports officials.

The International Olympic Committee’s executive board will discuss the results of the report by the Canadian law professor Richard McLaren in a teleconference on Tuesday.

 Banning Russia from Rio is imperative to save Olympics’ credibilityAndy Bull  Read more

McLaren said he had found convincing evidencethat the Russian ministry of sport hid hundreds of positive drugs tests among its athletes in the run-up to the London 2012 Olympics, as well as during the World Athletics Championships in Moscow in 2013 and the Winter Olympics in Sochi a year later.

Among the options on the table for the IOC will be a complete ban on Russia from the Rio Olympics, which begin next month, as well as a proposal to allow individual sporting federations to decide whether to implement separate bans – which, given the timescale, will be almost impossible to push through.

Last month Russia’s track and field stars were banned from Rio by the International Association of Athletics Federations, with only those who had trained outside the Russian system being allowed to compete under a neutral flag.

Thomas Bach, the IOC president, called the findings of McLaren’s report “a shocking and unprecedented attack on the integrity of sports and on the Olympic Games”.

The central finding of McLaren’s investigation was that Russian athletes “from the vast majority of summer and winter Olympic sports” had benefited from a system to make positive results disappear, which had become state policy after the country’s poor medal count during the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver. The Kremlin said the report was based on a whistleblower with a “scandalous reputation”.

Bach has come under increasing pressure from athletes’ groups as well as the World Anti-Doping Agency, which wants Russia banned. According to McLaren, a key figure was the deputy minister of sport, Yuri Nagornykh, appointed by Putin, who “decided who would benefit from a cover-up and who would not be protected”.

McLaren also confirmed allegations that steroid-tainted urine samples were swapped for clean ones in Sochi with the help of Russia’s intelligence and anti-doping officials. The tainted samples were passed through a “mouse hole” from inside the secure perimeter of the Sochi lab into an adjacent operations room, where they were allegedly switched.

I wonder if Canada missed out on some Olympic medals because of this.

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The timing of these provocative claims, based on the allegations of someone convicted of trafficking in anabolic steroids, also ominously coincides with John Kerry's failed mission to Moscow that got little attention in Western MSM press (thanks to the coup attempt in Turkey).

Kerry, who probably orchestrated the letter from the 50 diplomats [calling for the bombing of Syria], may be positioning himself for a role in a hardline Clinton regime in November.  A war on Russia on all fronts - what is called "full spectrum dominance" in military parlance - may be what is in store for the future.

That's easily ten times more paranoia in two sentences than I could ever have imagined being crammed into two sentences.

And none of it says Russia wasn't dope-a-licious.

Timebandit wrote:

So you're seriously invoking the Geneva convention in a dispute about a sporting event?

This shit gets dafter by the minute. 

Wow. That's even more obtuse that Magoo's typical contribution. Here, I will type more s-l-o-w-l-y:

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Collective punishment, in war or not, is illegal.

Is that all you can muster for an argument? Quibbling over terminology? Sorry to humiliate you so much, but I really think these issues are important.

Russia committed the ultimate crime, and now they must face the ultimate punishment 

A ban on Russia would hurt those who happen to be clean, but it is far graver, surely, to let in a country whose entire philosophy and modus operandi are built on a lie, thus betraying thousands of Olympians who have played fair to reach their moment in the sun. While the IOC is terrified of a return to the age of boycotts, the answer on Russia is clear. Their ultimate crime requires nothing less than the ultimate punishment. Throw them out, one and all.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/olympics/2016/07/18/russia-committed-the-ulti...

I notice you never back up your wild eyed comments with any substance

Russia has been caught in an unprecidented doping scandal and all you appear to want to do is condone their corrupt behaviour

The rest of the world has had enough of these cheaters and it would not surprise me to see them banned from international sports competitions maybe permanently

http://www.cbc.ca/m/sports/russia-doping-mclaren-report-1.3683450

Russia is So, So Dirty

http://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2016/07/18/monday-pm-hot-clicks-russia-d...

Doesn't look good for Russia!

It seems the Russians have learned nothing about this disgraceful situation, and are now becoming the pariah of the sports world and in particular the Olympics. 

Time to throw the bums out.

Russian doping: IOC delays decision on possible blanket ban for Rio Olympics

• IOC seeks legal advice over blanket ban versus athletes’ rights to justice 
• McLaren report had revealed extent of Russian cover-up

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jul/19/russian-doping-ioc-delays-...

Timebandit wrote:

Oh, buuuuuurn... Since we're typing slowly, Geneva convention refers to states. The IOC isn't a state. Secondly, you're using histrionic language about a fucking game and you should maybe get a little perspective. Nobody feels sorry for a team that routinely cheats. Thirdly, grow the fuck up. You're going to have people disagree with you from time to time.

You know, I don't really care if it's being obtuse or just simply weak understanding of basic concepts. Everyone knows about collective punishment in war - the best examples being the Israelis (currently) and the Nazis. I trust that you're not going to argue for collective punishment in these circumstances. We have nothing to talk about in that case.

But also in ordinary law. We don't prosecute people with "guilt by association" or, for example, even charge parents for the crimes their kids did. These are basic principles of law. What I am responsible for, I am prosecuted for. I am presumed to be innocent before the law. The state must prove its case. It's that simple.

It's interesting then, to read all these steaming piles of animal droppings in which this basic concept is "not understood" by legal geniuses such as yourself, or over-the-top claims that a sporting event is being compared to a war.

What is being advocated here is collective punishment. Athletes who have never competed in the Olympics before, those whose samples, e.g., (since January 2016) have been tested in a foreign country (UK), should be treated, it is suggested, as though there is some evidence against them personally. But there is no such evidence. AFAIK, the appropriate bodies in Russia have co-operated in addressing the very serious problems there, but none of this is enough for some; the latter simply want blood and lots of it. It's a witch hunt.

Come on. This isn't that hard to understand.  I thought babble was critical, radical, alternative. Pull your fukcin socks up.