2016 presidential election campaign 2

Black Lives Matter! 

In Cleveland, a sea of white delegates reflects GOP’s math problem

The U.S. becomes less white with each presidential cycle, yet GOP still struggles to appeal to minorities

http://www.denverpost.com/2016/07/21/republican-party-white-problem/

Michael Moriarity wrote:

SeekingAPoliticalHome wrote:

Can you someone please go to the NYTimes and get the transcript of Trump being interviewed on foriegn policy.  CNN pundits are going nuts over Trumps comments that does not believe american expectionalism.  I was always talking that hillary being warmonger compared trump.  That interview will be interesting.  I already used my 5 articles for the month.  We should butt out of the affairs of other nations like Turkey.  That statement is causing some interesting friction on cnn.

Try right clicking on the link to the article, and selecting "Open link in incognito window" in Chrome, or "Open link in new private window" in Firefox. This will defeat most article counters. BTW, pasting whole articles here on babble is not encouraged, since it could get rabble.ca in trouble for copyright infringement.

If you look carefully i did not post the article.  I know the rules.  But its a good remainder for those that do not know the policy, I are sure it was not done to harm rabble rather the individual was not aware of the policy.

I don't spend a lot of time listening to America's right-wingers, and last nite I had to turn the TV off. It is hard to fathom what a bunch of sick racist fucks the Republican party has become.   

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Democratic PAC Files FEC Complaint Over Melania Trump's RNC Speech

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A Democratic super PAC has filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission charging that the Trump campaign broke federal election law by using his corporation to advance his presidential campaign.

The complaint was filed after Meredith McIver took the blame for cribbing parts of Michelle Obama's 2008 convention speech for Melania Trump's speech at the Republican National Convention Monday night.

The complaint, filed by a grassroots-based super PAC formed this spring called the Democratic Coalition Against Trump, says McIver's involvement in the speechwriting is a violation of campaign finance law because she has received no compensation from the campaign but is an employee of the Trump Organization. The campaign is expected to list all in-kind contributions of goods and services in campaign finance reports.

Wonderful.  They just discovered the world's smallest potatoes.

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There wouldn't be any way to find out without some sort of investigation.

OK, but that's not worlds different from "look into his birth certificate.  Maybe he's technically an American, but who knows what other fish we might catch!".

I guess I'd rather see them stick to promoting responsible governance and trying to resonate with the electorate, instead of "fighting fire with fire".

Kind of an insulting comment no matter which way you slice it.

Chris Matthews Equates GOP’s ‘Lock Her Up’ Chant to What You See in Argentina or Venezuela

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/curtis-houck/2016/07/21/chris-matthews-e...

Donald Trump’s nomination is the first time American politics has left me truly afraid

Tonight, Donald J. Trump will accept the Republican Party’s nomination for president of the United States. And I am, for the first time since I began covering American politics, genuinely afraid.

Donald Trump is not a man who should be president. This is not an ideological judgment. This is not something I would say about Mitt Romney or Marco Rubio. This is not a disagreement over Donald Trump’s tax plan or his climate policies. This is about Trump’s character, his temperament, his impulsiveness, his basic decency.

Back in February, I wrote that Trump is the most dangerous major candidate for president in memory. He pairs terrible ideas with an alarming temperament; he's a racist, a sexist, and a demagogue, but he's also a narcissist, a bully, and a dilettante. He lies so constantly and so fluently that it's hard to know if he even realizes he's lying. He delights in schoolyard taunts and luxuriates in backlash.

He has had plenty of time to prove me, and everyone else, wrong. But he hasn’t. He has not become more responsible or more sober, more decent or more generous, more considered or more informed, more careful or more kind. He has continued to retweet white supremacists, make racist comments, pick unnecessary fights, contradict himself on the stump, and show an almost gleeful disinterest in building a real campaign or learning about policy.

Here is what we know — truly know — about Trump. Here is why he should not be president.

http://www.vox.com/2016/7/21/12218136/donald-trump-nomination-afraid

Trump's version of law and order is the reason we lead the world in incarceration.

"Law & order" has driven criminal justice policy for 50 years. It's time we tried something else.

http://www.vox.com/2016/7/21/12193106/trump-law-and-order-nixon-mass-inc...

Mr. Magoo wrote:

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And no i am not dumping on you MR.Magoo :)

And vice versa!  As they say, "spelling flames are lame".

But sometimes a typo just ends up being more interesting or funny than the right word would have been.

I think expectionalism belongs in the dictionary.  "Noun:  A strong belief that whatever one wants or feels entitled to, one should get, just because".

I'm with you, Magoo, I think it's a great word, especially given the context. However, I'll quibble with your definition (a bit) by offering my own

(I've returned to edit this slightly)

expectionalism n. 1. The condition of being expected  2. The presumption that what one expects will come to pass before anyone else's expectaions

Sometimes words are created by 'happy accidents'. I think this is a case, and thanks to SeekingAPoliticalHome for this one.

Limbaugh: Trump Pulled Off "Masterful Move" Using Cruz To Unify The Party Behind Him

I think that the argument that he may have done that is sort of rubber-stamped by the fact that he walked in to that convention hall at the exact moment that he knew Cruz was gonna be unloaded on by the audience. He walked into that convention hall last night to his box at the exact moment that it was gonna become, it did become clear to everybody that Cruz was not gonna endorse. 

Now, the key to all this is what has been reported, that everybody involved knew what Cruz was gonna say and thus everybody knew that Cruz was not gonna endorse. Now, I have warned everybody time and time again, you cannot judge, analyze, watch this convention through the regular political prism. In this case, what I mean by that is in a normal convention, that speech would never been allowed. 

Ted Cruz, even if he had been invited to give that speech and had submitted that speech to the campaign, and the campaign had seen that speech and discovered that there wasn't gonna be an endorsement. And, in fact, not only was there not gonna be an endorsement, there was gonna be something maybe even worse, and that was an intimation from Ted Cruz that he might not vote for Donald Trump. 

There is no other candidate that would allow that speech to be made. There's no other candidate that would allow that type of person, that situation, Cruz, to even appear at the convention. But Trump did. The Trump campaign -- and look, I'm basing all this, just to be clear again, on the fact that everybody's reporting that everybody knew what Cruz was gonna say, and they let it happen. And I'm telling you, no way that happens at a George Bush convention, a Bill Clinton convention, a Hillary Clinton convention. 

You think the Clintons are gonna allow Bernie Sanders to go up there and say something without knowing word-for-word what he was gonna say? It would never, ever happen. And if Bernie Sanders was gonna go out there and not endorse Hillary and be ambiguous about it, you think Hillary's gonna let him go out there? There is no way. They'll have Elizabeth Warren hijack him on the way to the convention hall and take him to a Burger King or something and keep him tied up for a couple hours so he can never get there. 

It would never happen. But it did happen last night. So now you've got all these analysts trying to figure this out and proclaim the ultimate meaning, and the conventional wisdom is that Cruz is toast, he has just ended his career. Dr. Krauthammer said it perhaps in the most creative way. Dr. Krauthammer said: "It was the longest suicide note I have ever read." Is that not good? (laughing) The longest suicide note I've ever read. 

Here's the point, again. Because of that last night, look at all the unity now that is starting to occur for Trump. Look at all the people, including some of the Never Trumpers now coming to Trump's defense. Maybe not coming to Trump's defense, they are unifying with Trump against Cruz. You have some Never Trumpers who are applauding Cruz, but it's a minimal number. He does have his supporters out there. And a lot of his supporters are in the Drive-By Media. 

Washington Post: "Ted Cruz Distinguished Himself Wednesday Night. Mike Pence Failed." They love it. They're looking at this the wrong way. They think that what happened was that Ted Cruz hijacked the convention and that nobody heard what Mike Pence said, and they're hoping nobody heard what Pence said because Pence was great. But people did hear what Pence said precisely because Cruz did what he did. 

There were more eyeballs focused on and more attention being paid to that convention after what Cruz did, 'cause the media was going bananas, and everybody was talking about it, focusing on what would happen next. (interruption) Well, Newt came out. Newt was great last night. Newt was absolutely great. That speech was on the prompter, but you wouldn't know it. Newt was fabulous. And he came out and he tried to tamp down this Cruz controversy by saying (summarized), "Hey, wait a minute. You people don't understand. 

"Cruz endorsed. He just didn't do it in a direct way, but when you're talking about 'voting your conscience,' for crying out loud, there's only one ticket here you can possibly vote for if you vote your conscience, and that's the Trump-Pence Republican ticket!" "Yaaay! Right on, right on!" But I just... I think this is all working out to Trump's advantage in all kinds of different ways, and I think Trump is right there in the middle this. 

I don't think this is happenstance. Again, folks... Look, I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but I've learned that some things need to be repeated over and over again before they actually connect, and all of my opining here is based on the reporting that everybody knew what Cruz was gonna say and let it happen. If that's not true, then some of my opinionizing here, my opinionating is maybe a little off. But I don't think so, even in that case.

But I'm just saying, again: This would not happen at any other convention. Nine o'clock slot? This is when primetime coverage begins. Cruz is number one, he's not gonna endorse, the Trump campaign knew it. Trump is positioned to come into the hall at the very moment the crowd realizes Cruz is not gonna endorse. You saw those electronic glitches on the giant screen behind Cruz when he wasn't making the endorsement?

Those were not technical glitches. It was done on purpose. The Trump campaign knew. They were already in the process of distracting from Cruz. I mean, Cruz may not have known it, he was backwards to that giant screen, but it went black. It was flashing. It looked like it had DirecTV and there's a lightning storm. It gets pixelated for a while and then it went black. Then a portion of it was black.

It was distracting in and of itself, so much so the TV networks had to cover from a different angle, a side angle where the giant screen JumboTron, whatever it was, was not visible. So Cruz comes out, hijacks the convention from Megyn Kelly -- who had been the number one attraction, someone with nothing to do with it. Cruz comes out, takes care of that, and then focuses attention on himself, which creates all kinds of not sympathy for Trump, but anger.

Because what happened, the party ended up asserting itself last night, the party that was previously in many sectors not all that warmed up to Trump. Some of them still remained a little cool to Trump. Some of those people are now joining the call to get behind the nominee. Cruz did that. Trump set the table and let it happen, knowing full well what Cruz was going to say. And I think it's... To me, it is fascinating to see these kinds of things that are unexpected, because they would never be allowed to happen in any other convention.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/07/21/limbaugh_trump_pulled_...

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Unfortunately Michael Moore may be right Trump doesn't play by the rules

Oh, seriously?  There are RULES now?

I assume these "rules" allowed silliness like "just show us the Birth Certificate, Mr. President!!!!"

Let's here more about what these rules are.

http://m.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2016/0721/Peter-Thiel-s-presence-hig...

CNN just got a big fuck you by a Trump speaker who said a year ago CNN's so-called expert pollsters, gave Trump a 1% chance of winning
And the speaker is correct in that 99% of so-called experts are incorrect with their forecasts and have no idea what they are talking about

NorthReport wrote:

No one gives a shit whether Melania's speech was plagurism.

No one cares whether or not Ted Cruz endorsed Trump.

And no one cares whether or not Trump's sppech was leaked.

Voters however do care what Trump says and unfortunately Trump's speech tonight will appeal to many millions of Americans.

Read this leaked draft of Donald Trump’s acceptance speech at the RNC

Below is a leaked copy of Donald Trump’s acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention tonight. This version has been under embargo all day until Correct the Record, a pro-Hillary Clinton group, got ahold of it and sent it out to reporters. Note that this speech could still change substantially between now and when Donald Trump gives it tonight at around 10 pm. Still, the leak is one more snafu in a convention that has had a lot of them.

http://www.vox.com/2016/7/21/12253426/donald-trump-acceptance-speech-tra...

Sorry. Double post again!!!

CNN reported that Trump scored big time with the speech watchers tonite - 56% of the speech watchers said they were more likely to vote for Trump after hearing his speech.

Trump has been underestimated from the beginning of this election.  

NorthReport wrote:

CNN reported that Trump scored big time with the speech watchers tonite - 56% of the speech watchers said they were more likely to vote for Trump after hearing his speech.

Trump has been underestimated from the beginning of this election.  

75% had a favourable view of the speech. But that figure (and the 56%) don't tell us much because they are representing the self-selecting sample of people who chose to watch the speech.

A more useful figure is the question of "will Trump's policies move the country in the right direction?" They polled this before the speech - 60%, and after the speech - 73%.

So of the group that was not in support of Trump's message (40%), he converted a third.

Aristotleded24 wrote:

NorthReport wrote:

CNN reported that Trump scored big time with the speech watchers tonite - 56% of the speech watchers said they were more likely to vote for Trump after hearing his speech.

Trump has been underestimated from the beginning of this election.

He did very well in trying to win over Bernie's voters. What Trump realizes (as does Jill Stein) is that Bernie Sanders will decide who the next President is. Whoever wins over his supporters wins. Unfortunately Clinton does not grasp that.

He did well with attacking trade agreements, including specifically NAFTA. But everything else served to alienate Sanders voters. From his law and order shtick to his trickle down tax cuts, to his embrace of the religious right, to his anti-immigrant racism.

The RNC Is a Disaster—So Why Can’t I Sleep at Night?

A book on Hitler’s mass appeal explains why we can’t underestimate Trump.

https://www.thenation.com/article/the-rnc-is-a-disaster-so-why-cant-i-sl...

It was all a blur

 July 22nd, 2016, 9:55am by Sam Wang

Measuring the effect of a particular political event is challenging. Any single poll spans multiple days, and multiple polls are necessary to get good accuracy. National surveys give the first indication, within a week. State polls (upon which the PEC snapshot and forecast are based) are more accurate when aggregated, but take longer.

In the case of the Republican convention, we will have a hard time knowing what its effects are in isolation. Certainly the event was distinctive. Last night, Donald Trump entered the general election campaign with a harsh 76-minute speech that painted the U.S. as a dystopia, and his opponent as a criminal. These claims do not hold up to scrutiny – but they do show his approach for the months ahead. One might like to know the net effect of that speech, that of his endorsers and various other Trumps, and of Ted Cruz, who called for citizens to “vote your conscience.” It would be interesting to know if such a convention would close his deficit with Republican voters.

Almost immediately, the Democrats now take the stage. Today, Hillary Clinton is expected to announce her vice-presidential pick. Next week comes her party’s convention. Many polling measurements will capture the combined effect of all of the Republican and Democratic events. The comparison is close in time, making contrasts easy to draw. My guess is that the net effect should be relatively large.

However, how large is “relative”? The effects of conventions have been declining. Based on Gallup data, the median “net impact” (more-likely-to-support minus less-likely-to-support) of conventions from 2004-2012 was 5 percentage points, compared with 16 percentage points for 1984-2000. I would characterize this as entrenchment of voters, a feature of political polarization. I will be very interested to see if this year’s net impact is an exception to the trend.

http://election.princeton.edu/2016/07/22/it-was-all-a-blur/#comments

Very Few Americans Are Satisfied With How Things Are Going In The Country

Satisfaction is at its lowest since the government shutdown in 2013.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/very-few-americans-are-satisfied_us_...

Ode to Right wing corporatist blowhards.

You gotta be crazy, you gotta be mean
You gotta keep your shoes and your car clean
You gotta keep climbing, you gotta keep fit
You gotta keep smiling, you gotta eat shit

You gotta be small to be a big shot
You gotta eat meat to stay at the top
You gotta be trusted, gotta tell lies
You gotta be able to narrow your eyes

You gotta believe they've gotta believe you
You gotta appear easy to see through
Gotta be sure you look good on the TV
Gotta resemble a human being

You gotta keep one eye over your shoulder
Gonna get harder as you get older
Gotta fly south and hide in the sand
Gotta forget that you're gonna get cancer

And when you lose control
You'll reap the harvest you have sown
And as the fear grows
The bad blood slows and turns to stone

And it's too late to loose the weight
You used to need to throw around
So have a good drown
As you go down
Alone
Dragged down by the stone

Gotta be sure, you gotta be quick
Gotta divide the tame from the sick
Gotta keep some of us docile and fit
You gotta keep everyone burying this shit

You gotta get you started early
Processed by the time you're thirty
Work like fuck 'till you're sixty five
And then your time's your own until you die

I gotta admit to a lot of confusion
Pain in the head is the child of collusion
Gotta resist the creeping malaise
You gotta beleive in the way you get out of the maze

But you, you just keep on pretending
You can tell a sucker from a friend
But you still raise the knife to
Stranger, lover, friend and foe alike

Who was born in a house full of pain
Who was sent out to play on his own
Who was raised on a diet of shame
Who was trained not to spit in the fan
Who was told what to do by the man
Who was broken by trained personnel
Who was fitted with bridle and bit
Who was given a seat in the stand
Who was forcing his way to the rails
Who was offered a place on the board
Who was only a stranger at home
Who was ground down in the end
Who was found dead on the phone
Who was dragged down by the stone

The sad pathetic truth of people like Donald Trump.

NorthReport wrote:

This reporter is being naive and Trump is playing the media for the fools they are.

Trump doesn't give a shit about negative publicity as long as Trump's name is in the press. 

http://www.vox.com/2016/7/22/12258324/trump-attack-ted-cruz-transcript

Precisely. Trump's son Udai,approached John Kaschic to be vice prtesident and was told his job would be controlling foreign and domestic policy. Isn't that the job of the President?

If Trump wins,and it's looking like it will happen,Mike Pence will essentially be the President.

He's a fucking moron,a narcissist,an ego maniac and he's truly dangerous. And has anyone taken a look at the Repugnicans platform?

Welcome back,1952.

alan smithee wrote:

Welcome back,1952.

If only. In 1952, the marginal tax rate for the highest earners was 90%. A high school graduate could get a job that would allow him to support a family, and live a decent life. Unions were a powerful factor in the U.S. political system, and they improved life for all workers. None of that will be brought back if Trump wins.

Aristotleded24 wrote:

What Trump realizes (as does Jill Stein) is that Bernie Sanders will decide who the next President is. 

I'd love to believe that.

Bernie has endorsed Hillary Rodham Clinton. Do you mean to say his supporters will decide, or do you mean it's all over since he's made his pick?