The hacking of the DNC computers

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I am not suggesting she had anything to do with it but I would fathom to say that there are lots of people who wanted to make those emails public.

Would you "fathom to say" that there exist "lots of people" who knew about those e-mails and what was in them?

Or are you just suggesting that these e-mails were like a summertime Christmas to a lot of people?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/07/26/dnc-hacker-unmasked-he-...

josh wrote:

Everyone knew that the DNC was in the tank for Clinton. And that they were doesn't mean she didn't win the nomination fair and square.

That's a really good way to put it.

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What is news is that a foreign country would apparently hack one political party's computer system and obtain its file on the opposition candidate.

It's only news because the USian media never reports it when the US does it.

great reading...perhaps this is the wrong audience...but this episode totally discredits the political class...essential to be talking about the need for deep alternatives, socialist, decentralist...where and when such discussions will take place?

Only after our economy and finances are in the toilet, the country in chaos? Bill C51 kicked in with all its potential fury?

Too late! 

[ Editor’s Note:  Finally a grown up steps up to spank the idiot parade that has emerge from the Democrats desperate and brain dead decision to deflect some of Hillary Clinton’s convention PR disaster by using Russia as the whipping boy for the DNC email release.

We saw instantly the pundits hit the airwaves on this farce with the thin veil cover of “reports in the media have suggested the Russia was to blame for the hacking”…lame, lame, lame.

Of course corporate media just rolled over on that flimsy cover and pushed the story non stop for two days, and running the Democratic leadership’s credibility down even lower, which is hard to do.

Trump once again pulled one of his masterful PR strokes by joking that maybe the Russians could find Hillary’s missing 30,000 emails from her personal email server, a classic case of his inserting himself into the controversy to get the media attention on him, which worked. This is called a “sucker ploy” in the PR world and it worked.

The email instructions went out to all the Democratic media pundits to “pile on Trump” for his asking a foreign power to engage in espionage against the US. This was so stupid it was beyond the pale. Trump was just thrilled with the over reaction as the Dems, and the media made laughing stocks of themselves with their pitiful manipulation display.

The bottom line for all the voters is the irrefutable evidence of what a worthless political class that has emerged from our political system. To even call it second rate would not be fair. It is far from that. We should all join in the fight now by contacting them all to let them know what an embarrassment they are to the country, not only to the public by whatever reputation our country still has.

Don’t let them get by with this without some major public blowback. James Clapper, and derivatively the president, have distanced themselves from this  “Russia did it” circus and cleared the way for us to go on the attack. It is “fix bayonets” time so let’s have some fun and take full advantaged of this silver plate opportunity… Jim W. Dean ]

And you're privy to all the evidence to be able to say that there's not a shred of evidence?

NorthReport wrote:

How many days are we into this now?

There is not one single shred of actual evidence to suggest who actually did the hacking. The only thing we have so far is a massive campaign of Democratic spin to infer that the Russians are behind this in some kind of weird attempt to help Trump. 

Actually, there are quite a few shreds in this NY Times article. It contains links to more sources, containing even more shreds of evidence.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/why-experts-think-russia-hacked-dnc-...

OK, aside from the lack of evidence for the incendiary claims of the corrupt DNC (trying to distract from their nefarious actions to make sure that left-wing candidate B. Sanders never had a chance) , here's something quite amusing.

Hillary hypocrisy: Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman John Podesta sat on the executive board of a Russian energy company called Joule Unlimited.

I guess they're ALL Russian dupes! Bwa ha ha ha. Bwa ha ha ha.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/08/11/us/politics/democratic-party-russia...

josh wrote:

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/08/11/us/politics/democratic-party-russia...

See, this is why I'm so fed up with the MSM:

WikiLeaks, the group that put out the D.N.C. emails publicly last month, interjected itself into the hacking case again this week when it offered a $20,000 reward for information on the shooting death last month of a former D.N.C. staff member, Seth Rich, outside his Washington home. His killing fueled speculation on the internet that he was somehow tied to the hacked emails, but the police have not given any credence to that speculation.

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The F.B.I. says it has no direct evidence that Mrs. Clinton’s private email server was hacked by the Russians or anyone else. But in June, the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, said that intruders had tried, and that any successful intruders were probably far too skilled to leave evidence of their intrusion behind. Law enforcement officials said he had the Russians in mind.

 

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WASHINGTON — A Russian cyberattack that targeted Democratic politicians was bigger than it first appeared and breached the private email accounts of more than 100 party officials and groups, officials with knowledge of the case said Wednesday.

 

So we have no real knowledge of where those emails came from, no evidence whatsoever of a hack, just a bogeyman "Well whoever it was was far too skilled to leave evidence but just take our word for it...and when he said whoever it was he meant the Russians" -unnamed source, meanwhile the source of the leaks - Wikileaks - has repeatedly hinted at a leak and more recently hinted that Seth Rich was the leaker. Yet it is stated as fact at the very start of the article that the emails were obtained by a Russian hack. Fuck this bias.

Edit: Oh wow, when reviewing the article I realized their mental gymnastics to push their narrative are even sloppier. They aren't even saying the FBI - even unnamed sources - has given any credence to Russians being the hackers of the DNC at all. They are just talking about how Clinton's personal email was hacked by Russians. As though that automatically makes the Russians responsible for the leak of DNC emails.

"No police or FBI source has led credence to whether the DNC emails came from a hack or a leak. We will denounce the idea it was a leak while state as fact that it was a hack, because we have an agenda to push."

Anytime the mainstream media talks about "cyber" anything, you're about to hear a stream of bullshit.

Whenever there's a high profile data leak, the mainstream media will trot out so-called cyber security experts who will pronounce that the leak is the work of some sophisticated state actor.

Bullshit

Exploit kits (kits that exploit existing weaknesses in software) are available for sale on the seamier parts of the web.

If a server hasn't been set up properly, isn't being properly monitored and/or patched (probably most of them because security is a pain in the ass) it can be exploited.

And any reasonably skilled network system admin can figure out how to use exploit kits in a matter of a few hours.

The "Sony Pictures hack" was blamed on North Korea by all of the talking heads in the mainstream media.   Later on independent researchers showed that it was most likely an "inside job" by disgruntled former Sony IT employees