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Fri, 2016-09-16 12:56

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iyraste1313

Trust in the Main Stream Media?

Americans’ Trust in Mass Media Plunges to Record Low, Gallup Poll By Michael Krieger Global Research, September 16, 2016 Liberty Blitzkrieg 14 September 2016

In yesterday’s post, The Death of Mainstream Media, I noted:

At the end of the day, I have concluded that my focus on Hillary as of late (vs. Trump) has as much to with my disgust for the mainstream media as anything else. To see these organs, which have destroyed this country by keeping the people uninformed for decades, now rally around a sickly, corrupt, oligarch coddling politician as the empire enters the collapse stage is simply too much to stomach…

The only positive thing to happen during this election season is the death of mainstream media. With their insufferable propaganda fully exposed, there is no coming back.

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Then today, we learned the following from Gallup:

WASHINGTON, D.C. — Americans’ trust and confidence in the mass media “to report the news fully, accurately and fairly” has dropped to its lowest level in Gallup polling history, with 32% saying they have a great deal or fair amount of trust in the media. This is down eight percentage points from last year.

Fri, 2016-09-16 18:36

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Mr. Magoo

I'd have loved it if Gallup had asked those who don't trust the MSM where they get the news that they do trust.

Because distrusting the Toronto Sun, while trusting the Globe and Mail (or vice versa) isn't really a repudiation of the MSM, just a repudiation of "news I don't agree with".

Fri, 2016-09-16 18:55

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mark_alfred

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I'd have loved it if Gallup had asked those who don't trust the MSM where they get the news that they do trust.

Because distrusting the Toronto Sun, while trusting the Globe and Mail (or vice versa) isn't really a repudiation of the MSM, just a repudiation of "news I don't agree with".

I trust the Star to let me know how wonderful the Liberals are.

Fri, 2016-09-16 19:10

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NorthReport

Conspiracy thread number what today?

Fri, 2016-09-16 19:21

#5

Mr. Magoo

No conspiracy here. Americans (and Canadians) have every right to critically examine any and all news sources.

But I think that the ones they DO trust would be more interesting than the ones they don't.

Fri, 2016-09-16 19:26

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kropotkin1951

NorthReport wrote:

Conspiracy thread number what today?

So everything is a conspiracy even polls that say people don't trust the MSM. I guess according to a carbon troll the only thing that is not a conspiracy is the collusion between oil and gas companies and various government agencies.

Fri, 2016-09-16 20:07

#7

bekayne

iyraste1313 wrote:

Americans’ Trust in Mass Media Plunges to Record Low, Gallup Poll By Michael Krieger Global Research, September 16, 2016 Liberty Blitzkrieg 14 September 2016

In yesterday’s post, The Death of Mainstream Media, I noted:

At the end of the day, I have concluded that my focus on Hillary as of late (vs. Trump) has as much to with my disgust for the mainstream media as anything else. To see these organs, which have destroyed this country by keeping the people uninformed for decades, now rally around a sickly, corrupt, oligarch coddling politician as the empire enters the collapse stage is simply too much to stomach…

The only positive thing to happen during this election season is the death of mainstream media. With their insufferable propaganda fully exposed, there is no coming back.

Then today, we learned the following from Gallup:

WASHINGTON, D.C. — Americans’ trust and confidence in the mass media “to report the news fully, accurately and fairly” has dropped to its lowest level in Gallup polling history, with 32% saying they have a great deal or fair amount of trust in the media. This is down eight percentage points from last year.

Interesting you link to a post from a Right Wing, anti-government survivalist website.

Fri, 2016-09-16 20:09

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bekayne

Mr. Magoo wrote:

I'd have loved it if Gallup had asked those who don't trust the MSM where they get the news that they do trust.

Not hard to figure out:

Republicans who say they have trust in the media has plummeted to 14% from 32% a year ago. This is easily the lowest confidence among Republicans in 20 years.

...Democrats' and independents' trust in the media has declined only marginally, with 51% of Democrats (compared with 55% last year) and 30% of independents (versus 33% last year) expressing trust.

So I'm guessing Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Breitbart, Newsmax, Drudge Report, WND, Gateway Pundit etc. Conservatives define "mainstream" as "not conservative enough". Which sort of makes the poll meaningless.

Fri, 2016-09-16 21:30

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bekayne

Is the National Enquirer part of the MSM, or is it an "alternative news source"?

Sat, 2016-09-17 10:49

iyraste1313

Conspiracy thread number what today?....

....May I digress somewhat here?

Yes I left in Edward Bernay`s quote, the father of modern deceptive advertising, which makes reference to the deep state, something President Eisenhauer warned about in 1960!!?

...so yesterday I read Al Ahram discussing the false flag operation of 9-11, today reading the right wing press here`s major opinion peace on the secret cabal running the system here, a known fact of course being that generals CEO`s and the former government are now all in prison....

My question is why do supposedly rational people as expressed in the above quote shrink from any such thoughts of secret governments? What with thew Bilderbergers, Trilaterals, Free Trade Agreements and Wars planned long ahead of time in their deliberations?

Of course this focusses our political work to electing one or other of the neoliberal parties!
Do people really believe that Justin Trudeau has anything to do with running this country?

Why do literate Canadians have such difficulty recognizing the reality that a cabal of oligarchs run the system, presently through their Central Bankers, IMFers ad nauseum!

This is really the essence...until people here wake up, we will be continued to be fooled by false choices!

Sun, 2016-10-02 10:56

iyraste1313

the latest...Russia bombed the hospital in Aleppo, therefore it's okay? to counterattack?

just another example of Mainstream media and the CBC complicity in the promotion of global nuclear war.....

Sun, 2016-10-02 12:27

ikosmos

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Noam Chomsky and others rescued, from oblivion, the expression that became the title of what was perhaps his most famous book. I mean Manufacturing Consent. That expression came from Bernays, AFAIK.

1. The venom directed towards non-MSM, in particular RT and Russian English-language media generally, is, I think, partly the result of what we see here. People don't trust the MSM and, naturally enough, are looking elsewhere. This is perfectly normal except for those used to controlling public consciousness.

2. As our friend Chomsky pointed out, many times, the effort at the manufacture of consent - brainwashing if you like - is much stronger in so-called "democracies" than in more authoritarian regimes. And when that production begins to fail, as it is, then the whole house of cards is in danger.

3. If the manufacture of consent starts to fail, then the use of violence will increase. And we're already seeing this with the militarization of the police, indiscriminate slaughter of African American males in the USA, the bloated prison industrial complex, etc. Trump is also symbolic of this.

4. A caveat. Just because larger numbers of people begin to doubt the MSM narrative, it doesn't follow that they will, therefore, follow more rigorous, critical, radical , democratic and system-challenging perspectives. They can also be side-tracked into right wing conspiracy theories, anti-scientific mumbo-jumbo, and so on. The system also produces this garbage as well.

5. If ever there was a need for revolutionary theory, then that time is now. A way forward, a way out. My own view is that there is such a theory, it's been around for quite some time, and it meets the criteria above. Of course I mean the socialist theory of Marx et al. But this theory has to be developed - e.g., the way JB Foster has developed a red-green fusion - as it always has had to.

6. Buckle up. It's going to be a rough ride.

Sun, 2016-10-02 12:47

6079_Smith_W

Sorry to break it to you ikosmos, but they got him too:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/professor-noam-chomsky-lectures-leftists-on...

Sun, 2016-10-02 13:00

ikosmos

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Who cares? That doesn't undermine his great contributions in the past any more than Georgi Plekhanov's outstanding contribution to the revolutionary movement in Russia in the period 1883-1903 isn't undermined by his block-headed national chauvinism and pro-war idiocy later on.

Must be exhausting policing all these threads, huh?

Sun, 2016-10-02 15:35

6079_Smith_W

Just an odd double standard, that's all. Whenever anyone posts anything you don't like you reject it out of hand beause it is apparently western MSM lies. That and jumping back and forth between the God Bless and the glorious secularism.

Sun, 2016-10-02 16:30

Mr. Magoo

Evidently, we should all be questioning MSM news sources. Nothing wrong with that.

But we shouldn't question alternative news sources, or even government news sources, provided they're saying things we want to hear.

Example:

The NYT runs a piece on economic collapse in Venezuela: we should assume it's all just propaganda from the State Department and dismiss it.

Nicolas Maduro claims, during "En Contacto con Maduro", that the U.S. is waging an economic war of imperialism: he must be telling the truth, right? What reason could he have for making that up? REAL progressives should line up behind him immediately.

As I've said, I find who someone questions to be less interesting than who they won't question.

Sun, 2016-10-02 17:27

radiorahim radiorahim's picture

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The NYT runs a piece on economic collapse in Venezuela: we should assume it's all just propaganda from the State Department and dismiss it.

Nicolas Maduro claims, during "En Contacto con Maduro", that the U.S. is waging an economic war of imperialism: he must be telling the truth, right? What reason could he have for making that up? REAL progressives should line up behind him immediately.

When it comes to the U.S. "backyard", both are true. The U.S. engages in an economic war against a Latin American government that they don't like. The economic war is successful. The economy of the "enemy country" of the day starts to collapse. The mainstream U.S. media blames "enemy Latin American government" of being responsible for the collapse and piles on about how horrible and incompetent they are.

It's a running sequel to a movie that's been going on for a very long time.

That's not to say that "enemy Latin American government" is perfect and never makes stupid mistakes of its own.

Everybody's got a friend that does stupid things...even if they mean well.

As for the MSM, there are agendas at play. MSM journalists are generally employees of large media conglomerates. They know what pleases the boss and what pisses the boss off. So they maneuver within that space. Some will take more risks than others, just as in any workplace.

An old friend of mine who was a reporter for many years at a major Canadian daily once told me that he was like a dog on a leash. Sometimes the bosses yank the chain and pull you back from a story. Other times they let you off leash and say "go sic 'em".

Sun, 2016-10-02 17:36

Mr. Magoo

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When it comes to the U.S. "backyard", both are true.

I'm curious, though, how you evaluate this to your own satisfaction.

Do you assume Maduro must be telling the truth, based on "what you already know" about the U.S.?

Or is it based on some kind of evidence that Maduro has provided (that I'm unaware of)?

There's plenty of good reason to believe that Venezuela's economic troubles are the result of a drop in oil prices, a very "monoculture" economic model (based almost solely on that oil) and mismanagement. But one of Venezuela's largest trading partners, and the refiners of all of their oil, are the "real" cause because... ?