Trudeau scores big time

For the most part Trudeau says the right things.

This is of course better than those who deny those things.

Now if we could leverage the stuff he says into policies that do those things and do them in the proportions and scale with the urgency required, we would have something.

He has the electoral mandate to do that but in some cases it is becoming obvious that this is not happening.

Talking is essential but doing is the thing that makes the change we need more of that.

So North...does this mean you're going to start defending C-51 and the pipelines?  You appear to have become a full-fledged Justinmaniac.

Ken Burch wrote:

So North...does this mean you're going to start defending C-51 and the pipelines?  You appear to have become a full-fledged Justinmaniac.

Know thine enemy.

This is a feather in Trudeau's cap. Add to that Bono's recent endorsement. Recall that swing voters didn't start paying attention to politics until the last couple of weeks of the election. It doesn't look like Trudeau's honeymoon is going to end anytime soon; certainly not without boldness which means risk-taking but very strategic risk taking not just striking out at whatever pops up.

My bet is that Trudeau sold the Chinese government that it would build goodwill in Canada which would aid his ability to sell the free trade deal he is trying to set up.

We need a progressive opposition that will denounce these trade deals including CETA and promote the inclusion of a minimum tax for corporations so they can't play countries off of one another. We need a party that will open the discussion on food security and manufacturing security. Someone needs to say some protection is a good thing.

quizzical wrote:

pondering keep on voting Liberal no matter what "we" need. lololol

Why would you want me to do that?

Pondering wrote:

This is a feather in Trudeau's cap. Add to that Bono's recent endorsement.

So now we should elect PM's based on Bono's views. LMAO 

This is the height of inanity. 

I think the Chinese threw him a bone not that Trudeau got anything from them. Unless of course in private conversations he took of his shirt and flexed his gorgeous muscles.

swallow wrote:

But Canada less embarrassing in international affairs than in previous decade, for sure. 

Strongly agree. There is nothing to be gained by shitting on any and everything Trudeau has done so far in regards to International relations. Maybe it's an inconvenient truth for some.

Still,the TPP and supporting the US in Syria,for that matter,all of the Middle East is not only worth criticizing but worth condemning.

kropotkin1951 wrote:

Pondering wrote:

This is a feather in Trudeau's cap. Add to that Bono's recent endorsement.

So now we should elect PM's based on Bono's views. LMAO 

This is the height of inanity. 

I think the Chinese threw him a bone not that Trudeau got anything from them. Unless of course in private conversations he took of his shirt and flexed his gorgeous muscles.

Don't be ridiculous. Are you incapable of understanding that this sort of endorsement will help Trudeau politically? Do you think Trudeau's current popularity is based purely on policy? While I realize Bono is not nearly progressive enough to satisfy you I can assure you that many Canadians do think that Bono is progressive and will consider his endorsement a point of pride.

PS The Chinese didn't just throw him a bone, they want something in return.

Pondering wrote:

PS The Chinese didn't just throw him a bone, they want something in return.

No they threw him a bone because he probably assured them that he supports Kinder Morgan. You know trading aboriginal and community rights for a sound bite about rescueing two Canadians from a jail sentence. 

Strange how he never brought up Leonard Peltier when he met with the POTUS. Oh yeah one is a white Xian and the othe is aboriginal.

Quote:

Leonard Peltier is an imprisoned Native American considered by Amnesty International, the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, National Congress of American Indians, the Robert F. Kennedy Memorial Center for Human Rights, Archbishop Desmond Tutu and Rev. Jesse Jackson, among many others, to be a political prisoner who should be immediately released.

http://www.freeleonard.org/case/

kropotkin1951 wrote:

Pondering wrote:

PS The Chinese didn't just throw him a bone, they want something in return.

No they threw him a bone because he probably assured them that he supports Kinder Morgan. You know trading aboriginal and community rights for a sound bite about rescueing two Canadians from a jail sentence. 

Strange how he never brought up Leonard Peltier when he met with the POTUS. Oh yeah one is a white Xian and the othe is aboriginal.

Quote:

Leonard Peltier is an imprisoned Native American considered by Amnesty International, the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, National Congress of American Indians, the Robert F. Kennedy Memorial Center for Human Rights, Archbishop Desmond Tutu and Rev. Jesse Jackson, among many others, to be a political prisoner who should be immediately released.

http://www.freeleonard.org/case/

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/china-canada-companies-deal-1.3744036

Chinese and Canadian firms signed 56 deals worth more than $1.2 billion at a ceremony on Thursday, Canadian Trade Minister Chrystia Freeland said in Shanghai.

Freeland said Canada could be a great partner for China, but Ottawa officials are "taking our time" over a free trade agreement.

Chinese premier Li Keqiang said at a meeting with Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Wednesday that both countries had agreed to start feasibility talks on a free trade pact at an early date.

The deals signed on Thursday involve companies in sectors from seafood to clean technologies, the trade minister said ahead of a speech by Trudeau.

I agree that Trudeau deserves no praise. Nevertheless he is getting it. Hoping that ranting about his broken promises will weaken him isn't going to work because he wasn't elected on the details. The only thing that has potential to work (in my opinion) is going after the trade deals.  

kropotkin1951 wrote:

Trudeau was elected on image. Tarring that image with reality has always been a good way to bring down a Liberal politician. 

Okay well over the next 3 years we shall see if it works. I predict it won't.

Pondering wrote: "This is a feather in Trudeau's cap. Add to that Bono's recent endorsement...."

From Bono's remarks to the Canadian Prime Minister:

“Development assistance, or foreign aid as you call it here, is a really good way of showing who you are to the rest of the world,” the Irish singer told fans and reporters gathered outside the Peace Tower. “I actually want to thank Canada for its generosity, particularly to vulnerable women and children. It’s amazing work that you’re doing. I always say, ‘the world needs more Canadas.’”

Dateline: Ottawa, June 16, 2015. 

http://ca.hellomagazine.com/celebrities/02015061616879/bono-ottawa-steph...

(First time I cite Hello Magazine on Babble. Should I add a photo of the royals?) 

"The world needs more Canadas" has been a standing line of Bono's for years. First tme I remember him saying it was at the Liberal leadership convention in 2003 that elected Paul Martin leader. But it may pre-date that. And he used it through the Harper years as an affirmation of the Conservative aid agenda on maternal and child health.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/bono-endorses-martin-canada...

The world needs more Norways.