Valdai Discussion Club 2016

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Valdai Discussion Club 2016

The Future in Progress: Shaping the world of tomorrow

Some interesting discussion here. More to follow.

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pdf file: What if the Soviet Union had not collapsed? by author Oleg Barabanov

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Russians find it difficult to give an unambiguous assessment of their Soviet past in part because officials hold diametrically opposing views of the initial and final stages of the Soviet period. The current conservative camp consistently and unvaryingly sums up its view of the 1917 Revolution with the simple phrase: “Never again!”. ...For obvious reasons, this anti-revolutionary and counter-revolutionary approach will dominate the official ideological campaign during the upcoming anniversary year.

In other words, pathological anti-communists - even those who are too stupid or block-headed to distinguish today's Russian Federation with Soviet Russia – will find themselves in the position of being in complete agreement with the current Putin administration over an assessment of the Great October Socialist Revolution. That should be amusing for the rest of us. The other amusing bit is some speculation over Chernobyl - a pivotal political event in Russian history, not just environmental - time travel, preventing the disaster, saving the Soviet Union, yadda yadda and.... Putin as Gen Sec of the CPSU. An alternate universe with certain obvious similarities with the present.

 Russian SF is like that.

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On the other hand, the very same officials will undoubtedly take the exact opposite view of the events of 1991 and the Soviet period as a whole. Everyone recalls President Vladimir Putin’s famous remark that the collapse of the Soviet Union was “the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century.” That attitude, together with the reverence given Gagarin’s spaceflight and Victory Day – the two main pillars of Russia’s historical memory – greatly reinforces an almost pious attitude toward the Soviet era. There is also a positive reassessment of Stalin’s role – not as a communist, but as a statesman – that the media powerfully reinforced during the anniversary of the 20th Congress of the CPSU in February 2016. The aphorism “Stalin built it up and Khrushchev broke it down” also hearkens to the Soviet era.

So conservatives, like liberals, can talk well out of both sides of their mouths. Who knew?

The author gets into Crimean “geopoetics” - a new term which interested readers should familiarize themselves with. I mean Russian culture, of course. The bulk of the piece is actually almost biographical in approach - what if so-and-so, etc.

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In considering these “historical turning points,” it is worth asking how events would have developed differently without Mikhail Gorbachev.

Plenty of Communists would likely be very interested in this scenario. Gorby is viewed by them as a terrible traitor.

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Unfortunately, history has no subjunctive mood. We will never have any definite answers to these questions. However, when analyzing all the available sources, it almost seems as though some form of inevitable doom led Gorbachev and the whole country to ruin, and that nothing could have prevented it. In any case, here we have presented a strictly textbook introduction to the role that specific individuals played in history.

A fascinating bit of speculation and a good read.

 

 

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Here's a Canadian participant.

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The 24th Valdai paper argues for a new academic discipline, geopolitical economy, which is better to understand the multipolar world, reconstruct its historical evolution and assess its progressive potential.

With growth in China and other emerging economies spreading productive and political power far beyond its original strongholds in the West and Japan, the idea that the world is fast becoming multipolar should be uncontroversial. But nevertheless, to the author’s mind, the two disciplines that study world affairs in the Western world, international relations (IR) and international political economy (IPE), failed to anticipate or explain this phenomenon. The author suggests to found a new discipline – geopolitical economy, best suited to informing institutions and practices that might exploit multipolarity’s potential for a more equal and just world.

The author of the article is Radhika Desai, Professor at the Department of Political Studies, Director of the Geopolitical Economy Research Group, University of Manitoba,Winnipeg, Canada.

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The website is a gold mine, HTFG.

NDPP

Yes, indeed, of great interest. Thanks for posting it! Good to see a Canadian other than the ubiquitous Leo Panitch participating too. Dr Desai is a far superior contributor in any case.

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Brilliant stuff from the Russian President, V. V. Putin at Valdai.

Dead silence from the despicable, blood-thirsty, barbaric Western MSM and their masters.

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About constant vilification of Russia and trumpeting of “Russian aggression,” Putin said:
“they continue to churn out threats, imaginary and mythical threats such as the ‘Russian military threat’. This is a profitable business that can be used to pump new money into defense budgets at home, get allies to bend to a single superpower’s interests, expand NATO and bring its infrastructure, military units and arms closer to our borders.

Of course, it can be a pleasing and even profitable task to portray oneself as the defender of civilization against the new barbarians. The only thing is that Russia has no intention of attacking anyone. This is all quite absurd.

It is unthinkable, foolish and completely unrealistic. It is simply absurd to even conceive such thoughts. And yet they use these ideas in pursuit of their political aims.

The question is, if things continue in this vein, what awaits the world? What kind of world will we have tomorrow? Do we have answers to the questions of how to ensure stability, security and sustainable economic growth? Do we know how we will make a more prosperous world?’

None of the frothing Russophobes, here on babble or anywhere else, can or will answer the highlighted and sensible question asked by the Russian President.

"Russia has no intention of attacking anyone."

see also the whole speech, with English translation ... over here.

Test of Valdai session, including the remarks of Russian President V V Putin over here at en.Kremlin.ru

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Try and ban YouTube, NatWest Bank. lol.


Mr. Magoo

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None of the frothing Russophobes, here on babble or anywhere else, can or will answer the highlighted and sensible question asked by the Russian President.

Well, I guess none of us feels any obligation to, particularly when you go out of your way to load the question like that. 

Gee, what a shock that nobody's taking you up on your trolling.  Just proof that we haven't a leg to stand on, amiright?

sherpa-finn

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Mr. Magoo

If I know my cartoons, he didn't actually fall into that manhole.

Or, when he was down there he struck oil.