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Breaking: Russian Ambassador to Turkey shot in Ankara

A breaking news story: the Russian Ambassador to Turkey, while participating in a cultural event in Ankara, Turkey, has been shot by a gunman.

The only details I have so far, unconfirmed:  the gunman was wearing a police uniform.

 

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https://www.rt.com/news/370782-attack-russian-ambassador-ankara/

The above story notes that the gunman was himself killed, presumably in a subsequent gun fight. The envoy, A. Karlov, is, AFAIK, still alive.

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The Ambassador has died from his wounds. 

Adam Garrie wrote:
Russian ambassador to Turkey Andrey Karlov, who was in critical condition after a gun assault in Ankara on Monday, has died according to Russian media reports.

http://theduran.com/breaking-russian-ambassador-turkey-killed-armed-assa...

 

WARNING: the linked video shows the moment the gunman opened fire on the Ambassador.

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Other reports indicate that the gunman identified himself as a policeman in order to get into the art exhibit. The Mayor of Ankara has confirmed that he was a policeman.

The same report noted that some of the artwork was damaged during the attack.

Russia, Iran and Turkey are in the process of some very high-level meetings designed to help create a peace settlement in Syria. The US regime and its satellites have been excluded.

There is, therefore, every chance that a peace settlement - say a conference or such - can be successful.

I don't think this assassination will change that.

 

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CV of the late Ambassador to Turkey, Andrei Karlov (1954-2016)

Embassy of the RF in Turkey wrote:
Karlov Andrey Gennadyevich, born in 1954 in Moscow.

In 1976 graduated from the Moscow State Institute of International Relations, in 1992 graduated from Diplomatic Academy.

Started his diplomatic career in 1976.

Worked on different positions in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the USSR and Russia, as well as foreign missions.

1979 – 1984 and 1986 – 1991 – Embassy of the USSR to the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea

1992 – 1997 – Embassy of the Russian Federation to the Republic of Korea

2001 - 2006 – Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary to the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea.

2007 - 2013 – Deputy Director General, Director General for Consular Affairs.

Since July 2013 – Ambassador of the Russian Federation to the Republic of Turkey.

Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary.

Speaks English and Korean.

Married, has a son.

R.I.P.

Wikipedia, ever the right-wing source of information, has a lengthy quote from the now dead assassin, his name, and so on. I won't be surprised if, by 6 pm, US MSM has full, glossy reports on him. But call me cynical.

Let's hope the US State Department wasn't foolish enough to post their condolences before the assassination took place. That might be embarrassing.

Webgear

I am finding it very difficult to believe that Russian security would allow Turkish Police and Security Forces that close to the Ambassador. Where are the Ambassador’s close protection escorts? Why didn’t they react faster?

 

There is something incredibly wrong with this assassination. Turkey has been in a heighten sense of security for months now, there is no way the Russians would let their Ambassador be so unprotected in such a public place.

 

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Yeah, it is strange. Let's wait and see. The other thing is how this story is shaping up as another "lone gunman" story. I think I will reserve judgment on that as well.

The UN Security Council will discuss this today. Of course, some things we will never know as these governments talk among themselves.

There was another report of gunfire around the US Embassy, as a result of which the Embassy was warning Americans to stay away.

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TASS: "The man who assassinated the Russian Ambassador to Turkey was killed by security guards on the spot."

I think Webgear might have his answer. If an assassin is willing to throw his own life away, then it's much more difficult, if not impossible, to stop a determined individual or group of individuals from murdering a public figure. [This also points to the necessity of states and governments that do not agree on important issues to agree on this issue and, together, oppose terrorism instead of gleeful enthusiasm for terrorism that harms rivals - but this is a side point, fyi.]

TASS also reports that the gunman was a police officer who was fired after July's abortive putsch.

See TASS

Quote:
The man who assassinated the Russian Ambassador to Turkey, Andrei Karlov, on Monday night is identified as Mevlut Mert Altintas, a former office of the Turkish police who was fired from the forces of law and order in the course of investigation of the July 15 abortive putsch, Haberturk news portal said.

Altintas, 22, was involved in FETO terrorist organization.

The assassin was killed by security guards on the spot and a police ID was found on him.

nota bena - FETO is, in the opinion of some critics of Erdogan, the name of a fictional terrorist organization, associated with the Gulenists, that Erdogan names to criminalize his critics. FETO is also a "nickname" used for Gulen himself - according to others.

 

JKR

ikosmos wrote:

Russia, Iran and Turkey are in the process of some very high-level meetings designed to help create a peace settlement in Syria. The US regime and its satellites have been excluded.

There is, therefore, every chance that a peace settlement - say a conference or such - can be successful.

 

This reminds me of the "peace" settlement Russia and Germany came to over Poland.

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Russian President V V Putin - "We need to know who gave the orders."

"He was in good standing with the government of Turkey and with other political groupings in the country. ... He was a good hearted person.  (passim) I knew him personally ... so this is not hearsay ..."

 

Quote:
"This murder is clearly a provocation aimed at undermining the improvement and normalization of Russian-Turkish relations, as well as undermining the peace process in Syria promoted by Russia, Turkey, Iran and other countries interested in settling the conflict in Syria," Putin said in a statement on Monday evening.

 

The best memorial to Andrei Karlov is to help build a stable peace in Syria and let the barbaric Western regimes choke on their own bile.


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JKR wrote:
ikosmos wrote:

Russia, Iran and Turkey are in the process of some very high-level meetings designed to help create a peace settlement in Syria. The US regime and its satellites have been excluded.

There is, therefore, every chance that a peace settlement - say a conference or such - can be successful.

 

This reminds me of the "peace" settlement Russia and Germany came to over Poland.

Right. Comparing current Russian peace efforts in the middle east with the 1939 Pact is a great addition to a thread about the assassination of a diplomat by a terrorist because:

(a) it helps people to feel "good" about the political murder without admitting it;

(b) you can never say that Stalin = Hitler enough times;

(c) continuous war is much better than some silly peace - the Empire says so!

(d) it's much more interesting to grind axes than discuss some dead diplomat that we really don't care about anyway!

(e) for the rest of the top 10, see Dave Letterman ...

Webgear

After reviewing the video again, I am surprised that the Ambassador took so many rounds to the back and was able to stand the way he did. I am also shocked by the lack of blood on the ground around the Ambassador after getting hit numerous times.

 

6079_Smith_W

ikosmos wrote:

Russian President V V Putin - "We need to know who gave the orders."

"He was in good standing with the government of Turkey and with other political groupings in the country. ... He was a good hearted person.  (passim) I knew him personally ... so this is not hearsay ..."

 

Quote:
"This murder is clearly a provocation aimed at undermining the improvement and normalization of Russian-Turkish relations, as well as undermining the peace process in Syria promoted by Russia, Turkey, Iran and other countries interested in settling the conflict in Syria," Putin said in a statement on Monday evening.

His deductive powers are amazing.

KenS

I saw a slideshow. The assasin had a LOT of time.

So us amateurs do wonder why Russian security allowed him to be uncovered. But what do we know- maybe it was a Tirkish demand they do security for the ambassador. Since he was not a President or Minister, maybe that is protocol- that in a country like Turkey even a major state cannot demand they do security detail for their ambassador.

 

Webgear

All my comments are based off the current video, comments will change as more detail come to light.

 

NorthReport
bekayne

Webgear wrote:

 I am also shocked by the lack of blood on the ground around the Ambassador after getting hit numerous times.

This will be the first time Paul Craig Roberts doesn't ask "Where is the blood?"

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Webgear wrote:

I am finding it very difficult to believe that Russian security would allow Turkish Police and Security Forces that close to the Ambassador. Where are the Ambassador’s close protection escorts? Why didn’t they react faster?

 

There is something incredibly wrong with this assassination. Turkey has been in a heighten sense of security for months now, there is no way the Russians would let their Ambassador be so unprotected in such a public place.

 

This and he was able to stand there for what one would call, given the situation, a very long time waving his gun and yelling stuff. He should have been tackled or shot within seconds of doing this by body guards and police.

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ikosmos wrote:

Russian President V V Putin - "We need to know who gave the orders."

I hope he isn't ruling out Allah.

Webgear

I am sure he was a great man, his death was pointless.

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This is a strange obsession. I notice this in US media coverage - a necrophiliac focus on the moment of death.

I suppose this allows one to ignore the life of the victim, or the meaning of what happened, etc., etc.

 

Christ, you guys are sick puppies.

 

 

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ikosmos wrote:

This is a strange obsession. I notice this in US media coverage - a necrophiliac focus on the moment of death.

I suppose this allows one to ignore the life of the victim, or the meaning of what happened, etc., etc.

Really? Are you watching US telivision right now? I am and nobody is "focusng on the moment of death".

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JKR

ikosmos wrote:

JKR wrote:
ikosmos wrote:

Russia, Iran and Turkey are in the process of some very high-level meetings designed to help create a peace settlement in Syria. The US regime and its satellites have been excluded.

There is, therefore, every chance that a peace settlement - say a conference or such - can be successful.

 

This reminds me of the "peace" settlement Russia and Germany came to over Poland.

... continuous war is much better than some silly peace....

Who knows, maybe Assad will be able to bring peace to his country but after 17 years in power his track record would seem to point in the opposite direction. I think the horrible position Syria finds itself in today can not be described as a "victory" but the coming years will tell whether Assad can rehabilitate himself from being viewed by very many as being a bloody dictator.

Sean in Ottawa

I am sure we will learn more. There are unfortunately multiple parties in a multi-faceted conflict who could have an interest in this including both US and ISIS. Either could be involved or neither. Security could have been infiltrated by either or neither. No doubt the investigation must start with both of them all the same.

Certainly the fact that he represented Russia in both North and South Korea is an indication or some considerable diplomatic skill when you think about it. You can imagine the value he would have been able to assemble having connections in both. During the period he was in the South, following his time in the North, there were some hopes for improvement. It is possible that he may have been a positive influence in that direction. After he left the situation deteriorated. Perhaps this is a nothing to do with it but there really would not have been many who had the kinds of insights he must have had.

Turkey would have been a very important post given the present situation and he would only have been their becuase of some considerable talent.

Diplomats like this are the talkers, the people who may keep countries from fighting. It is sad to lose any to violence.

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"Diplomats like this are the talkers, the people who may keep countries from fighting. It is sad to lose any to violence."

John Donne wrote:
No man is an Iland, intire of it selfe; every man is a piece of the Continent, a part of the maine; if Clod be washed away by the Sea, Europe is the lesse, as well as if a Promontorie were, as well as if a Mannor of thy friends or of thine own were; any mans death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankinde; And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.

 

NDPP

A Few Initial Short Thoughts on the Murder of the Russian Ambassador to Ankara

http://thesaker.is/a-few-initial-short-thoughts-on-the-murder-of-the-rus...

iyraste1313

The assasination of Russia’s ambassador has been universally condemend across the globe. And its curious that Russia, and Turkey have displayed enough political wisdom and responsibility not to get caught in yet another confrontation that could end up in the same way that the murder in Sarajevo did a century ago. There’s little doubt that a thorough investigation of this provocative attack will uncover the true “masterminds” behind these events.

Martin Berger is a freelance journalist and geopolitical analyst, exclusively for the online magazine “New Eastern Outlook.”  
http://journal-neo.org/2016/12/20/the-dangerous-implications-of-the-assassination-in-turkey/

bekayne

So the only armed person in the room was the assassin? Odd.

NDPP

Ukrainian MP Calls Russia Ambassador's Killer 'A Hero', FB Reacts With Outrage

http://rt.com/news/371006-ukraine-reaction-russian-ambassador

"...Meanwhile, Ukrainian Parliament (Verkhovna Rada) member Volodymr Parasyuk hailed the assassin as a 'hero' on his FB page. In his post, Parasyuk displayed a split screen of the Turkish assailant juxtaposed with Mykola Lemyk, a Ukrainian political activist and a member of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN).

In 1933, Lemyk assassinated Aleksey Mailov, a Soviet diplomat. It is believed Stepan Bandera, who collaborated with the Nazis during WWII in an attempt to for an ethnically pure and independent Ukrainian state was the mastermind behind the assassination."

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I see the word "terrorist" is being bandied about again. I guess I will be the brave one and suggest that the targeted killing of a government official comes a little closer to being described as attacking a "legitimate target" than the killing of regular civilians with an IED (something the [b]bad[/b] guys do) or one of those wonderful acronyms that state actors apply to their munitions (the [b]good[/b] guys, apparently).

I see no reason to celebrate the death of Ambassador Karlov, but I also see no reason to immediately start shoveling the whole "terrorist" bullshit around. How about we just call it an assassination.

Webgear

I have heard reports that a 2nd embassy employee was killed in a different part of the city just shortly after the Ambassador was assassinated It appears to have been a coordinated attack.

 

Webgear

bagkitty wrote:

I see the word "terrorist" is being bandied about again. I guess I will be the brave one and suggest that the targeted killing of a government official comes a little closer to being described as attacking a "legitimate target" than the killing of regular civilians with an IED (something the [b]bad[/b] guys do) or one of those wonderful acronyms that state actors apply to their munitions (the [b]good[/b] guys, apparently).

I see no reason to celebrate the death of Ambassador Karlov, but I also see no reason to immediately start shoveling the whole "terrorist" bullshit around. How about we just call it an assassination.

It all depends on the definition you use for “terrorism” and “terrorist”.

I would likely state that his act was a form terrorism but he was not a terrorist.

 

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Webgear wrote:
I am finding it very difficult to believe that Russian security would allow Turkish Police and Security Forces that close to the Ambassador. Where are the Ambassador’s close protection escorts? Why didn’t they react faster?

There is something incredibly wrong with this assassination. Turkey has been in a heighten sense of security for months now, there is no way the Russians would let their Ambassador be so unprotected in such a public place.

You should have a read of TheSaker's article in which he discusses all this, makes some educated guesses about likely sponsors of the assassin, and generally criticizes both the Turkish and Russian security here. 

See A few initial short thoughts on the murder of the Russian Ambassador to Ankara

bekayne
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The Turkish investigators have reportedly found some Al Qaeda related materials in the home of the assassin.

I see as well that the Russian, Turkish and Iranian Foreign Ministers have been able to meet and seem to have come to some agreements on establishing a lasting peace in Syria.

Of course this should not be exaggerated - Israel still occupies the Golan Heights, and provides loving medical attention and an escape corridor for the jihadists there; the various Kurdish militias, some friendly, some not so - still control a large section of northern and eastern Syria; and the ISIS and Al Qaeda and other "jihadists", along with their Western "advisors" have their HQ in Raqqah, and strongholds in Idlib Province, Palmyra, etc.

Some of the reporters at State Department briefings have questioned the spokespersons there about whether the exclusion of the US (and its satellites) from this discussion of cessation of hostilities in Syria is embarrassing to the US. The backflips by State are quite exquisite.

The Empire will not, of course, go down anywhere without a fight. They have all the grace of a bull in a china shop. But perhaps this is quite clever by the "troika" of Russia, Iran and Turkey. You can't control the beast, just leave him out of things, do your best, and his brutal lashing out at everything that moves will subside.

There is some very obscene gloating about the death of the Ambassador in Western MSM which I won't post links to here. I think they belong in the Russophobia thread.

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Al-Nusra claims responsibility for Russian ambassador’s murder

That's the "moderate" head-choppers according to the US State Department. You know. The ones that were "marbled" together with other "rebels" in Aleppo.

NDPP

MSM Just Couldn't Resist Trying To Justify Killer of Envoy Who Helped Negotiate Aleppo Evacuation

http://youtube.com/watch?v=icRNGByZPaA

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uh, I put similar comments on the Russophobia thread, NDPP, because that's where I think they belong. Similarly, for what I have called a necrophiliac (or voyeuristic) focus on the moment of death of the Ambassador (upthread); they don't help the discussion. Cheers.

bekayne

The conspiracy theorists are have a field day. The same ones that have been championed before by some on this board.

https://www.youtube.com/results?sp=EgIIAw%253D%253D&q=Russia+Turkey+fake

Webgear
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Brian Becker wrote:
Over a dozen people have been arrested in connection with the assassination of the Russian ambassador in Ankara. Turkey has pointed the fingers at the Fethullah Gulen and by extension the United States as political shockwaves reverberate throughout the Middle East and the world.

I don't put much stock in the Turkish claim that the assassin was getting his orders from the Gulenists but, it should be mentioned that,  the town where he received his police training was, and is, a hotbed of Gulenist politics and activity. Undoubtedly, they had their influence. But that's not evidence.

The fact that the Gulenist leader is enjoying safety in the USA, however, should not be lost on anyone. If the Turkish claims turn out to be proved to be true, the buck will stop at the US government.  And that's a very scary prospect ... the possibility of the US regime connected to the assassination of a diplomat. The Obama regime is peevish and petulant now, their proxies whupped in Aleppo, left out of important regional peace conferences, but I have a difficult time believing they would cross that line ....

In his last press conference, US President Obama made a point of threatening this and that and specifically mentioned Russia. It's quite disturbing, though the MSM media, and Russian media as well, are remaining mum on the issue.

Read more: https://sputniknews.com/radio_loud_and_clear/201612221048855739-turkey-russia-iran-agreement-is-us-out-in-the-cold-in-syria/

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Just to follow-up regarding the Obama regime and it's catastrophic failure of policy in Syria. I don't know the last time - if there even was a last time - when the US regime was excluded from an important conference/consultation on a very significant conflict that they were very interested in and openly involved with.

Think about it. This barbaric US regime has been trying, openly, to overthrow a member-state of the UN and replace it with a dismembered home for terrorists, Kurdish separatists, Israeli war criminals, and the like. A smorgasborg of hate. And they have lost. They are now left out of the important decisions. Other, more responsible governments will, God willing, gradually solve the problem of war in Syria.

And, to rub delicious salt into the wound, Iran, Turkey and Russia are the key players now! The very same countries that the US regime is so fond of denouncing as barbaric, etc,. etc - the very same qualities that the US regime has been exposed as practicing! aha ha ha ha! Iran! Russia! Turkey!

Delicious. Truly, lip-smacking, finger-licking, KFC-like, good. mm mmm.

I mean, diplomatically speaking, this is an astonishing humiliation for the Obama regime. The US got schooled. Plus many detentions. They are left, now, like a sheepish school boy, caught stealing, lying, cheating, threatening, bullying, etc., etc., etc., and simply excluded from important decisions.

I have to say, it couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

In that regard, revenge is not out of the realm of the possible. And then we have Obama's ugly threats to end his sad, pathetic Presidency.

So, who's to say? And, even if it were true, what would the Russians do? Someone has to be the adult in the room.

 

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Here's another angle;  Did Gulen Order The Hit On The Russian Ambassador?

"The better question to ask is, “does it even matter?” Well, yes, in the sense that what matters is who’s leveling these accusations and why, not necessarily how provable they may or may not ultimately be."

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What’s important to pay attention to isn’t necessarily the veracity of these allegations, but the fact that they’re being voiced by the country’s most important politician and its top diplomat. This is the closest that a world leader can get to blaming the US for this terrorist attack without directly saying as much, which in a sense channels what the Russian suspicions have been all along.

"This is the closest that a world leader can get to blaming the US for this terrorist attack without directly saying as much ..."

Quote:
Analyzing this event from a larger angle, it’s vividly clear that Turkey is signaling that it’s completely fed up with the US and is decisively pivoting towards Eurasia, as was predicted by the author in the immediate aftermath of the failed pro-American coup attempt this summer.

Consequently, although the argument might appear to be a factually flimsy one so far, Turkey’s assertion that Gulen ordered the hit on the Russian Ambassador shouldn’t be met with mockery but with merriment by multipolar supporters because of how it powerfully represents Ankara’s rejection of Washington and its embrace of the emerging Multipolar World Order.

Andrew Korybko

 

NDPP

Former Nusra Front Claims Responsibility For Russian Ambassador's Assassination

http://sptnkne.ws/dbHk

"The terrorist group claimed responsibility via a letter which appeared on the Internet."