Climate Change: I don't want to talk about it

Climate change and population:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-23/want-to-slow-climate-c...

Part of the solution, but not enough.

(VIDEO) R I P Great Barrier Reef pronounced dead by scientists

Great Barrier Reef pronounced dead by scientists. For most of its life, the reef was the world’s largest living structure, and therefore the only 1 visible from area. It was 1,400 miles long, with 2,900 individual reefs and one,050 islands. In total space, it absolutely was larger than the uk, and it contained a lot of multifariousness than all of Europe combined. It harbored one,625 species of fish, 3,000 species of shellfish, 450 species of coral, 220 species of birds, and thirty species of whales and dolphins. Among its several alternative achievements, the reef was home to at least one of the world’s largest populations of sirenian and therefore the largest tract of inexperienced turtles.

Source : https://goo.gl/tLYln5

New research finds that Anarctica's ice shelves are melting rapidly:

http://on.wsj.com/2eBXjpx

 

World climate policy: a critical assessment:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/2016EF000392/full

 

Dams and greenhouse gas emissions:

http://news.wsu.edu/2016/09/28/reservoirs-play-substantial-role-global-w...

 

For the next four years, the issue is dead.

Trump could be good for Reducing Global Warming.  At least he is honest on this while Western leaders fly to Africa or Paris and do nearly nothing. Even Couillard is there now but he won't put a cap on hydrocarbons exploration in Quebec hoping maybe for a big find that will make lots of monand look good for Quebec and keep his party in office.  Hell, the world doesn't need any more new hydrocarbon finds.  We've go enough proven reserves to heat us up maybe 5 degrees.

Our enironmentalists are against Fracking (No Fracking Fracking)  OK for conventional wells but No fracking. That's the message.

The excess of CO2 is the problem, not pollution.  CO2 is clean and is in fact Greening the Planet (encouaging plant growth)

Let's go for 500 ppm.

Climate researchers protest Trump:

https://www.theguardian.com//environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2...

 

Martin N. wrote:

Each individual can make a difference by planting trees, installing personal solar systems, reducing consumption or any other method to reduce their carbon footprint. Climate change isn't the issue with so called 'sceptics', the issue is the political use of climate change to further leftist delusions.

And what would these leftist delusions be? Don't be shy.

 

On Tuesday, President Obama announced that he was putting hundreds of millions of acres of federally owned waters in the Arctic and Atlantic Ocean off limits "indefinitely" to future oil and gas drilling.

Environmental groups had been calling for precisely this move ever since the election — as a way of preempting Donald Trump. What's interesting here is that while Obama can legally put these areas off limits by executive order, it's not at all clear that Trump can unilaterally reverse this move, at least not without Congress passing a brand-new bill. 

http://www.vox.com/2016/12/20/14032588/obama-oil-drilling-arctic-trump 

 

 

 

Not if it is filibustered in the senate.

Doug Woodard wrote:

Martin N. wrote:

Each individual can make a difference by planting trees, installing personal solar systems, reducing consumption or any other method to reduce their carbon footprint. Climate change isn't the issue with so called 'sceptics', the issue is the political use of climate change to further leftist delusions.

And what would these leftist delusions be? Don't be shy.

 

That climate change can be mitigated without effect on global population. That, somehow, the pain of mitigation efforts will only affect 'others'. The alarmists never mention the people who now have to choose between shelter, food or heat rather than simply between food and shelter. That, somehow, a drastic reduction in fossil fuel use will still allow the earth to sustain its current population. Always the stirring hue and cry of "denier", never a mention of solutions.

Low-income families join solar revolution with help of California NGO

As the wealthy leave the electrical grid, there's a risk the poor will be left paying the bill

If you were to make a list of the poorest areas in Los Angeles, somewhere on that list would be Bertha Dortch's neighbourhood in Inglewood. The 68-year-old is on a fixed income, but she's chosen to take in her great-granddaughter and two foster children. On hot days, she faces difficult choices — does she keep the house cool, or buy groceries?

"Our electric bill was going sky high and I really couldn't turn the air conditioning on," Dortch says.

Now, her monthly energy bill is about to drop by more than a quarter. She's getting solar panels installed on her bungalow, for free, under a state-funded program paid for by California's cap-and-trade revenues....

epaulo13 wrote:

Low-income families join solar revolution with help of California NGO

As the wealthy leave the electrical grid, there's a risk the poor will be left paying the bill

If you were to make a list of the poorest areas in Los Angeles, somewhere on that list would be Bertha Dortch's neighbourhood in Inglewood. The 68-year-old is on a fixed income, but she's chosen to take in her great-granddaughter and two foster children. On hot days, she faces difficult choices — does she keep the house cool, or buy groceries?

"Our electric bill was going sky high and I really couldn't turn the air conditioning on," Dortch says.

Now, her monthly energy bill is about to drop by more than a quarter. She's getting solar panels installed on her bungalow, for free, under a state-funded program paid for by California's cap-and-trade revenues....

yes, solutions. But not in Canada. Jump starting the residential solar industry with tax credits or subsidies for low income will create good jobs, advance technical aspects, lower costs and reduce base load during high usage daytime. Even apartment dwellers can benefit from small systems.

these delusions have to do with building supra national international agencies beyond the control of people to manipulate macroeconomics and finance and taxation policy and demand what nations must do, not to mention developing population reductions mechanisms such as war and colonialism to eliminate grass roots people living off the land without contributing to the pockets of the megacorporate elites and their bureaucrats of these multi national agencies...

let´s face reality...the left has lost it totally, totally bought out with their climate change internationalsit demands, their corporate globalist neoliberal politics...nor of course does the right have the slightest clue...so where do we turn to...why do people refuse to deal with the need to develop alternative politics...beyond me to understand!

Marking another milestone for a changing planet, scientists reported on Wednesday that the Earth reached its highest temperature on record in 2016 — trouncing a record set only a year earlier, which beat one set in 2014. It is the first time in the modern era of global warming data that temperatures have blown past the previous record three years in a row. 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/18/science/earth-highest-temperature-rec...

 

Earth's last major warm period was as hot as today, but had higher sea levels:

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/earths-last-major-warm-period-was-ho...

 

Canada Cannot Have It Both Ways on Climate and Fossil Fuel Expansion

With great fanfare and a claim that “Canada is back,” Prime Minister Trudeau helped usher in the Paris Agreement on climate change in December 2015. Since then, however, the federal government has pushed to expand fossil fuel production through new bitumen pipelines and LNG terminals.

This contradiction points to a loophole in the Paris Agreement, one that perfectly fits Canada: countries have committed to reducing emissions within their borders, but not the carbon that is extracted and burned elsewhere.

Paris poses no limits or sanctions on the supply of fossil fuels being brought to market by producing countries. For exporters like Canada only the emissions from getting fossil fuels out of the ground and to the border are counted.

As a result, producing countries have a powerful incentive to respond to the Paris Agreement by doubling down on fossil fuels now before their value evaporates.

This “green paradox” is bad news for the climate....

 

World's oceans losing oxygen, threatening marine life, study finds:

http://www.cbc.ca/1.3985933

 

josh wrote:

Marking another milestone for a changing planet, scientists reported on Wednesday that the Earth reached its highest temperature on record in 2016 — trouncing a record set only a year earlier, which beat one set in 2014. It is the first time in the modern era of global warming data that temperatures have blown past the previous record three years in a row. 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/18/science/earth-highest-temperature-rec...

 

But the records only go back 136 years. What about the millions of years previous?

Edzell wrote:

Martin N. wrote:

Doug Woodard wrote:

And what would these leftist delusions be? Don't be shy.

.... That, somehow, a drastic reduction in fossil fuel use will still allow the earth to sustain its current population..

??? You see a decline in world population as undesirable?

I see a decline in global population forced upon emerging economies by self righteous alarmists who will not suffer the same fate themselves as undesirable. Fortunately, most of the world order is simply paying lip service to the delusions and enjoying another conference close to the better restaurants and tourist facilities.

Record-breaking climate change pushes world into ‘uncharted territory
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/mar/21/record-breaking-clim...

Quote:

The record-breaking heat that made 2016 the hottest year ever recorded has continued into 2017, pushing the world into “truly uncharted territory”, according to the World Meteorological Organisation.

The WMO’s assessment of the climate in 2016, published on Tuesday, reports unprecedented heat across the globe, exceptionally low ice at both poles and surging sea-level rise.

Global warming is largely being driven by emissions from human activities, but a strong El Niño – a natural climate cycle – added to the heat in 2016. The El Niño is now waning, but the extremes continue to be seen, with temperature records tumbling in the US in February and polar heatwaves pushing ice cover to new lows.

“Even without a strong El Niño in 2017, we are seeing other remarkable changes across the planet that are challenging the limits of our understanding of the climate system. We are now in truly uncharted territory,” said David Carlson, director of the WMO’s world climate research programme.

“Earth is a planet in upheaval due to human-caused changes in the atmosphere,” said Jeffrey Kargel, a glaciologist at the University of Arizona in the US. “In general, drastically changing conditions do not help civilisation, which thrives on stability.”