War in Syria 3

Details of the agreement (still not public entirely)

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“The first was signed by the Syrian government and the Syrian opposition to stop hostilities in the territory of the Syrian Arab Republic. The second one is a set of measures to control the ceasefire. The third document is a declaration of intention for Syrian settlement,” the Russian president said.

The agreement is the result of joint efforts by Russia, Turkey, and Iran, the president said.

“Great work has been done in cooperation with our partners from Turkey. We know that only recently there was a trilateral meeting in Moscow of the foreign ministers of Russia, Turkey, and Iran, where all of the nations made obligations not only to control, but also to act as guarantors of the peace process in Syria.”

The truce is supported by seven major armed opposition groups that have over 60,000 fighters in their ranks, Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu said.

The Russian Defense Ministry has released a list of the groups that have pledged to stop fighting, which includes Faylaq Al-Sham, Ahrar al-Sham, Jaysh al-Islam, Thuwar al-Sham, Jaysh al-Muwahhideen, Jaysh Idlib and Jabhat al-Shamiyah.

The minister said under the deal any armed group that refuses to cease hostilities would be considered a legitimate target for the use of force, as is the case with terrorist groups Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) and Al-Nusra Front, which are not included in the truce.

Shoigu added that if the agreement holds, it would allow Russia to scale down its military presence in Syria.

This last must be particularly galling to the Americans. They've done a "VietNam-ization " strategy in the past (Russia in Afghanistan - Zbig Brzezinski still gloats about it) and to see talk of reducing the Russian presence in Syria must really "chap their asses".

Comments from the US regime and the UN louts that have been sabotaging peace efforts so far are entirely predictable. "A change in administration" is the sort of phraseology, to replace "Assad must go". Talk of discussion in Geneva, that, e.g., excludes key players like Iran, is "next", etc.

Well, give them credit for trying. But have they been schooled, OMFG. Even the brutal assassination of the Russian Ambassador at an art gallery didn't slow down these peace efforts by Russia. It's simply outstanding on their part.

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OK, so the US regime and its satellites, UN toadies, etc., have switched tack and now want to see:

1. US involvement ASAP. That means Geneva negotiations, fuggetabout the negots in Astana, XYZ, and let's get back to excluding the Iranians just like the apoplectic Israeli leadership insists;

2. Partitition of Syria in a "federation". This is more complicated as even the Russians talked to the Syrians about something along these lines at one point. However, the US regime, etc., simply want a toe-hold so they can "assist" a new, rump statelet carved out of Syria, a nice little baby caliphate, some sort of Kurdish statelet requiring US "intervention" etc., etc. ... you get the idea. 

This all is Plan "B". None of it will happen, natch, but that won't stop the Western barbarians from making noisy demands and threatening anyone who doesn't compliment them on these, their most recent flatulent emanations.

Hm.

Between the two of them, Murdoch and Rothschild have a 5.5 percent stake in the company, though both are on the advisory board. The controlling shareholder is Howard Jonas.

Never let an opportunity to bang that old drum pass though, I suppose.

The old Rothschild drum, Rev.

Of course his name is more of a dogwhistle than that of the guy who actually owns and controls the company. So he's the one digging for the oil.

There Will Be No Partition of Syria  -  by Sharmine Narwani

http://rt.com/op-edge/372142-us-russia-syria-partition-turkey/

"East Aleppo is liberated and regime-change has lost its luster. It's no surprise Syria's foes are ready to promote the next big goal: partition..."

The Day Before Deraa: How the War Broke Out in Syria

http://ahtribune.com/world/north-africa-south-west-asia/syria-crisis/113...

"The CIA agents running the Deraa operation from their office in Jordan had already provided the weapons and cash needed to fuel the flames of revolution in Syria. With enough money and weapons, you can start a revolution anywhere in the world. In reality, the uprising in Deraa in March, 2011 was not fueled by graffiti written by teenagers and there were no disgruntled parents demanding their children to be freed.

This was part of the Hollywood-style script written by skilled CIA agents who had been given a mission: to destroy Syria for the purpose of regime change. Deraa was only Act 1: Scene 1..."

Clearly they can do what they want Rev, and the reason why they put him front and centre even though it isn't his company, and he only owns a small percentage of it, is as a tip of the hat to the old International Jewish Conspiracy.

Think I am just seeing things? Well it isn't the first time for this same program:

http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/194211/russia-today-airs-bizarre-anti-se...

As it mentioned in the article, they pulled that segment after someone noticed the line about "hebrew backers".

To be honest, I wouldn't mind if RT went back to the good old days of 9-11 theories, chemtrails, crop circles, and chasing the illuminati. The international Jewish conspiracy stuff? Not so much, even though the Rothschild thing is so done that only real fools still believe it. Unfortunately I know one or two of those fools over on FB. Which is why you see some media still trying to shovel that lie.

Funny thing is, there is a good chance Jonas doesn't have to worry about anything at all, no matter who controls the land.

There are other oil deals worth far more that depend on people who are probably going to be sitting across the cabinet table from Woolsey. Why would anyone risk those deals by upsetting this one?

Syria: 'Aleppo did not FALL Aleppo was LIBERATED'

https://youtu.be/w8DJJDCGQ9g

"Why did you only show one side?"

NDPP wrote:

BBC News Caught Staging FAKE News Chemical Attack in Syria

http://youtube.com/watch?v=blg9XVBUEZg

Fake blood' and other staging common among Syrian rebels. Fabrications used to justify more foreign arms

NDPP, that is the fake news piece that got RT sanctioned by British regulators because they lied about the BBC.

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-34316047

You know this. Why are you rehashing these old lies, even though you know they are false?

Well, they were found to have been knowingly lying in that program. Over a year ago.

Hezbollah's Nasrallah on Aleppo Victory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P44C4mUYDgY

"It does not mean the end of the conflict (nor) that the conflict has been decided..."

ME Analyst Nasser Kandil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfbQY6pMsI8

"Trump election result of US defeat in Middle East and victory of Syria, Iran and Russia."

Sami Ramadani on ME War

https://twitter.com/SamiRamadani1/status/812650084588548096

"One major reason terrorism will still plague the ME in 2017 is that Israel prefers al Qaeda/ISIS and sectarian Wahhabism. 'I prefer ISIS to Iran..' - Moshe Yaalon, Israel Defense Chief

Trump campaigned on a reset of relations with Russia - something Obama failed miserably at - as well as on a foreign policy focus on fighting terrorism and less on regime change.

These are facts, not bullshit. They helped get him elected.

The Queen of war, OTOH, never got her chance to finish the regime change agenda in Syria.

Wahh.

You gotta hand it to Obama, though. Making all those weapons available to the "moderate" head-choppers at the last moment, manfully expelling Russian diplomats and their families right at Christmas, helping with Ministry of Truth legislation and a $20 million slush fund to back it up .... are solid signs that his term in office will end with a bang and not a whimper.

ikosmos wrote:

Trump campaigned on a reset of relations with Russia - something Obama failed miserably at - as well as on a foreign policy focus on fighting terrorism and less on regime change.

These are facts, not bullshit. They helped get him elected.

He also campaigned on increasing military spending, closer relations with Israel, and more hostility towards China and Iran.

NDPP wrote:

Syria: 'Aleppo did not FALL Aleppo was LIBERATED'

https://youtu.be/w8DJJDCGQ9g

"Why did you only show one side?"

That was a very interesting piece. Very pro-government but then that is what the majority of Syrians have become. I suspect that in Canada we would put our differences aside and the vast majority would back a government of any stripe that authorized the military and the RCMP to use lethal force if our cities were under attack by foreign backed terrorists and a violent dissident group armed by foreign governments.

The same subset of people in Canada who are cheering on "moderates" to commit acts of violence against their fellow citizens also freak out when a Black Bloc person throws a rock through a window. 

I don't disagree with you, k.

We've been disappointed on plenty (though not everything) with Trudeau. I am waiting to see how long our friends here are going to be cheering for Donald. Or at the very least how long they can keep up the facade.

6079_Smith_W wrote:

I don't disagree with you, k.

We've been disappointed on plenty (though not everything) with Trudeau. I am waiting to see how long our friends here are going to be cheering for Donald. Or at the very least how long they can keep up the facade.

I don't really see anyone cheering for Trump not even people like me who really dislike Clinton.  In places like Syria we will soon see whether the American rulers let Trump change direction in foreign policy. It would be a great thing for the people of Syria if he ordered all the various US agencies and military "advisors" to leave the country immediately. However the real rulers of the US seem to pushing for regime change followed by chaos. Hilary would be sabre rattling over Syria if she was President elect rather than letting the potential for peace unfold.  

Terrorists Attack Electrical Towers near Damascus (and vid)

https://youtu.be/xA_QzCnl52A

"Local media said terrorists from al Nusra Front were behind the attacks."

Public Forum: Aleppo Crisis (19/12/2016

https://t.co/9TlshsjKKU

"I hope that the world learns that the era of 'regime change' is over. This is going to be a fight to the finish. Right lessons should be taken by the Western powers and the powers that be, that they should stop lying to the whole world.."

'History is Not the Same as Before': The Liberation of Aleppo and its Geopolitical Implications  -  by Patrick Armstrong

https://goo.gl/ZyqaN3

"The liberation of Aleppo is an 'inflexion point' in global geopolitics."

US/UK Paid 'White Helmets' Help Blocking Water To 5 Million Thirsty Syrians

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/01/usuk-paid-white-helmets-help-blocki...

"Even after 14 daysof water crisis in Damascus the 'western' media are not reporting about the al Qaeda blockade of water for 5 million Syrians. We can be sure that not a word will be written by them about this illegal hostage-taking of millions of civilians in Damascus by their favorite propaganda organization White Helmets..."

Canada: White Helmets Should NOT Be Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize - Open Letter From Hamilton Coalition to Stop War

http://21stcenturywire.com/2016/09/26/canada-white-helmets-should-not-be...

"Dear Member of Parliament: It is with great disappointment and regret that we find ourselves calling into question your unanimous caucus decision, announced by MP Nathan Cullen, to support the nomination of the White Helmets organization  in Syria for the Nobel Peace Prize for 2016..."

How We Were Misled About Syria: The Role of MSF

https://timhayward.wordpress.com/2016/12/30/truth-a-casualty-neglected-b...

"My question simply concerns the reliability of uncorroborated witness statements coming from potentially compromised sources. It appears MSF had no independent access to verifiable information from Syria. So while MSF has often been cited as an independent source of support for White Helmet testimony, its press statements have in fact merely repeated White Helmet claims..."

Open Letter To Human Rights Defenders

http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/01/04/open-letter-to-human-rights-defen...

"...Recently, a number of such leftists, have joined the chorus of the Washington war party in reproaching the Obama administration for failure to intervene more in the military efforts to overthrow the government of Syria. In short, they are blaming the Obama administration for not having sufficiently violated international law.

For the 'human rights defenders' political realism and the consequences of their actions have no importance: what matters to them is to show that they belong to the 'camp of virtue.' You imagine yourselves as being free, while following at each step the indications of the dominant media as to what should be the object of your indignation..."

BBC gives a loving touch to terrorism. I guess they won't be admitting their "mistakes" wrt Syria, the liberation of Aleppo, and so on, anytime soon.

"Real Housewives of ISIS"

ISIL Amasses Large Force For Imminent Deir Ezzor Offensive

https://t.co/VhowRU4cqk

"The Islamic State (ISIL) has reportedly begun to amass a large force inside the Deir Ezzor Governate in preparation for their upcoming offensive in and around the provincial capital."

Kerry's ISIS Hopes Revealed (audio)

https://twitter.com/LinaArabii/status/817103027576438786

"Behind closed doors, Kerry told Syrian opposition activists that US watched rise of ISIS, and hoped it would force Assad to negotiate."

Alieda Guevara March wrote:

What can the left in the West do to help Cuba maintain the assets of its revolution?

AGM: What it has been doing so far. Keep standing by Cuba, first of all out of respect, that’s a fundamental issue. Not always judge things one doesn’t live oneself. Trust the revolutionary process and, when you have doubts, please, ask, we will answer, we are not infallible, we keep trying to improve ourselves. What matters right now, is the fight against the blockade. It has to be lifted. But what is also important for us, is that the left in the West attains the necessary popular support for changing their societies. What would help us most would be that the left clears itself a way through the capitalist centers in order for us to change the present reality together. One has to take into account that without us, without the peoples of the Third World, you will not survive. In the meantime, people have to abandon their egos and unite in search of connections—for true unity. One has to fight every kind of interference between countries. One has to fight the fact that the money of the great powers supports international terrorism. The aggressions against the Syrian people are financed by the West. You cannot allow that! You cannot allow that your territories continue to be used to plot and wage wars! There have been two World Wars, the third one will be the end of humankind. That’s why, once the left in the capitalist centers has developed enough strength to change this reality—from that moment onward we can really advance and create “a different world.”

Guevara's daughter has figured it out. Pity that so many babblers haven't.

Interview with A. Guevara March

In Video: Syria's Rebels Beg Israelis For Help, Ask For Military Support

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/video-syrias-rebels-beg-israelis-he...

"In a phone call made by an Israeli reporter and a field commander from the Saudi-backed Jaish al Islam, the latter confirmed that they are not abiding by the ceasefire with the Syrian government, offering the reporter - who spoke fluent Arabic - to send him combat footage from the battlefield. When asked to address the government of Israel, the rebel commander demanded full support of arms, food and all kinds of aid.

'I call on our bothers the Israelis to support the revolution in Syria, and provide us with everything, weapons, food, aid...anything brothers. You Israel must attack the Syrian Army and help us defeat this 'infidel regime', he added. Today the Syrian Army shot down an Israeli fighter jet while targeting Army positions in Sa'sa town, located nearly 30 km to the southwest of Damascus, near the occupied Golan Heights.

The Syrian government has long accused Israel of backing up the militants operating near the border."

Syrian Army Warns Israel It Will Respond After Military Airport Bombed

https://www.rt.com/news/373522-syria-army-base-bombed-israel/

"Syrian state news agency SANA says Israeli jets have bombed the Mezzeh military airport west of Damascus, accusing Tel Aviv of supporting terrorism. The Syrian Arab Army has warned that there will be repercussions for Israel for the 'flagrant attack' on the military base, state TV said, citing a Syrian army command spokesman.

It also linked the alleged strike to Israel's support of terrorist groups. There was no information on the death toll resulting from the airstrike immediately available."