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NDPP

The Mad Chase For Russia-Gate Prey

https://t.co/bTRTgAftRV

"As the Russia-gate imbroglio proves, a grave danger in journalism comes when the pack is running headlong in pursuit of the same prey...It appears that the scuttlebutt among CNNers is that Russia-gate is a lot of hot air but no one cares because it is sending viewership through the roof. But the problems of Russia-gate date back to the beginning..."

Mr. Magoo

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being the #2 economy behind communist China.

I once glibly referred to "communist" China having a stock market, but someone pointed out that they actually do have one.  Seems they actually have two, actually.

WWWTT

Yes true china has a stock market and investors. They also have casinos in Macao. They treat the stock market like the casino, don't bring more money than you can afford to give away! Where as in the west many people invest everything they earned their whole lives in the markets. Big differences in communism vs capitalism thinking! 

But going back to Russia gate, it appears that the US has no interest in demonizing china, the clear winner and in world politics with probably the best politician in the world right now Xi JinPing 习近平。Trump even abandoned going after North Korea when 习近平 countered his comments with own proving who the best world leader is.  Together with the long standing US post WW2 tradition of desperately searching for an enemy the US can beat up and say "hey everybody in the world look at us, these people are bad, they do bad things (we don't really have evidence they're bad so take our word for it) and keep using our US dollars to trade with. 

Obviously china is flexing its economic might, squeezing out the US dollar in international trading. Last hope for the US is Western Europe and Russia is the best hope in a last ditch effort Middle East trading obviously is in there. 

Looks like Russia is probably China's new pit bull bitch replacing North Korea 

Mr. Magoo

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Big differences in communism vs capitalism thinking!

Ya, I'm not sure that investing some capital in a private company in return for part ownership really qualifies as "communist thinking".

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Looks like Russia is probably China's new pit bull bitch replacing North Korea

That sentence would have still said all it set out to say without the word "bitch" in there for no reason.

WWWTT

Hi Mr Magoo maybe I'm saying more than what you think? Or what you want to hear? The word "bitch" was thrown in there for dramatics and display this is not a serious issue. More an issue of just current international geopolitical cosmetics from my perspective. 

Mr. Magoo

It's just not a word we use lightly around here, for reasons that I hope are obvious.

WWWTT

Ya sorry I have no idea what you're talking about?

Mr. Magoo

Ya, Ok.  We don't generally talk about "bitches", even in a canine context.

Work with me here.  I'm only trying to help.

WWWTT

I don't think I would refer to a person as a bitch. It was within the context of an entire country. Are you Russian? 你是中国人吗?well either way, I will try to avoid making insults to any posters here. But I have so far seen other language on rabble just as course so I won't stop using any particular word for just the sake of the word.

kropotkin1951

Bitch is a common misogynist statement but its general use does not change its meaning. It uses the female sex as an insult. Please do not use it because at a minimum it is disrespectful on a chat board with a feminist bent.

WWWTT

Nope sorry that's an old misuse of the word that I believe first refers to females of the canine family of dogs. My use is is not sexist someone who is subservient to another. It can be either masculine or feminine and my use was actually neither orientation. I think this is a generation thing and how the word may have been abused by borderline illiterates. Language is constantly evolving, believe me I study Mandarin dialect Chinese,an ancient language with uncountable idioms and many meanings for one single character. Getting worked up over the word bitch can actually be interpreted as ignorance of the complexity of language. You want to get worked up over a single words different application and meanings? Go figure this one out 之 pinin spelt zhi.used in place of an objective noun or pronoun. Another application-certain set phrases without definite designation. 之 also has other definitions.

kropotkin1951

wwwtt Language is important and does have power and can have negative effects. 

" Getting worked up over the word bitch can actually be interpreted as ignorance of the complexity of language. "

Your jump to an insult based on you being less ignorant is laughable and befitting an adolsecent. Are you fifteen?

WWWTT

I wish I was 15 again! And if I said something to make you think I'm 15, maybe I'm saying the right thing then. Hey look brother I remember when the media jumped on the "radicalized" band wagon, to expend on the term "terrorist ". This really ticked me off because the term terrorist was already being abused and twisted for political reasons and by governments in the west to justify military campaigns in the ME. So should I get pissed off if someone on this board were to use either of these two terms? Yep I would! But I wouldn't expect them to stop using them. Ok say I get your point and I will watch how I will use the term "bitch" because according to the warnings my brothers/sisters are giving me I'm going to get a "black eye" from it. You guys happy now?

Timebandit Timebandit's picture

At least we have an indication of what we can expect from you. 

Mr. Magoo

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And if I said something to make you think I'm 15, maybe I'm saying the right thing then.

Why should an adult be proud of that when by definition an adolescent is totally up to the job?

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You guys happy now?

Couldn't care less.  I was only trying to give you a heads-up, but you're acting like we're the "squares" who took your toy away.  You want to sulk, or grow up?

NDPP

Russophobia Hits the Libertarian Movement

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2017/07/09/russophobia-hits-libertari...

"Who needs actual evidence, anyway, when writing about Russia?"

NDPP

The Democrats' Donna Brazile Just Called Russians 'The Communists' And It Wasn't An Accident

https://www.newcoldwar.org/democrats-donna-brazile-just-called-russians-...

"...The implication being, of course, that what we call Russia is actually still secretly the Soviet Union. The goal being, of course, to stoke the flames of vestigial Cold War xenophobia to advance the party's neoconservative agenda of manufacturing support for escalations with a nuclear superpower."

NDPP

"German Press: No sign of Russian attacks on the German election. We've been selling hysteria for months..."

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/903254182295166977

NDPP

US Security Services To Search Russian Consulate in San Francisco on Saturday - Moscow

https://on.rt.com/8m0a

"Alongside yet another raid on expensive objects of Russian state property, which [the US] have blocked and are now persistently offering us to put on sale, this time the orders of the US authorities pose a direct threat to [the] security of Russian citizens,' in the US, the ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said in a statement.

The searches will not only be carried out at Russia's consulate offices, but also at the apartments of staff who live in the building and who have immunity, she said. To perform those searches, US authorities have ordered those staff members and their families, including children and babies, to leave their homes for up to 12 hours.

'We are talking about an invasion in the consulate office and homes of diplomatic staff, who themselves are being ousted [so as] not to disturb FBI agents,'Zakharova stated."

 

NDPP

Russia-gate's Totalitarian Style

https://t.co/VRMFgbEL1G

"The NYT is at it again, reporting unproven allegations about Russia as flat fact, while anyone who questions the Russia-gate groupthink faces ugly attacks, reports Robert Parry."

 

A1 Abrams Tanks, Heavy Armor Arrive in Georgian Port for 'Agile Spirit' Drills (and vid)

https://on.rt.com/8m3u

"The war games are expected to take place at the Georgian military's Vaziani training center, involving US soldiers as well as approximately 1,000 troops from Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Latvia, Romania and Ukraine."

NDPP

Blaming Russia For America's Racist Crimes   -   by Glen Ford

https://blackagendareport.com/blaming-russia-americas-racist-crimes

"The NYT tried to pin Black voter suppression in North Carolina on Russia - which makes the newspaper an accomplice in the actual crime."

NDPP

"Today the genius Kreminologists at Secure Democracy labeled the US military newspaper Stars and Stripes as part of a Russian influence op."

https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/914623741811937281

 

CrossTalk Bullhorns: Evidence Free (and vid)

https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/405329-rt-under-attack-media/

"Once again, this network - RT - is in the spotlight and under attack..."

NDPP

Red Scare Redux? US Imposes WWII-Era 'Foreign Agents' Designation on Russia Media

https://on.rt.com/8p84

"Despite the non-stop media histrionics, not a shred of evidence has been produced to show that Russia 'hacked' the 2016 US presidential election..."

NDPP

Imagining Russia (and vid)

https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/407271-valdai-discussion-club-russia/

"From the Valdai discussion club in Sochi, we discuss Russophobia and its impact on US-Russia relations..."

NDPP

I'm Looking To Sue': Black Activist Says Twitter Banned Her As  'Russian Bot'

https://on.rt.com/8qqg

"I was getting harassed and threatened all the time by people in Hillary's camp..."

josh

To put the last tweet in context:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/26/technology/twitter-russia-today-sputn...

Good for them.  But to be consistent, they need to do the same thing with Fox.

NDPP

Twitter Versus RT: Which One Is State Media Again?

https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/10/27/twitter-versus-rt-which-one-is-s...

"The obvious purpose of DoJ's demand is to keep the guttering flame of panic over 'Russian election meddling' from going completely out."

josh
Mr. Magoo

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Twitter Versus RT: Which One Is State Media Again?

Is that a real question?

I'll take a stab:  RT is the state media.  Twitter is anyone, anywhere, saying whatever they want.

NDPP

RussiaDidIt: Cheap Meddling, Closet Marxists and Racial Tensions  -  by Ricardo Vaz

https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/11/03/russiadidit-cheap-meddling-close...

"...It seems like all the evils that plague the western world these days have a common cause. Brexit, Catalonia, Trump, racial tensions, the lack of credibility of the EU, all of these have a simple explanation, if we are to believe the mainstream media and pundits: Russia is behind it. And not just Russia, but Putin himself. He must be the busiest villain in history.

We start of course with the ineffable Guardian..."

JKR

NDPP wrote:

Twitter Versus RT: Which One Is State Media Again?

https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/10/27/twitter-versus-rt-which-one-is-s...

"The obvious purpose of DoJ's demand is to keep the guttering flame of panic over 'Russian election meddling' from going completely out."

Over the next year or so we will all be able to see how things unfurl but so far Trump and his supporters seem to be going around the bend trying to minimize his incredibly horrible presidency.

josh

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RussiaDidIt: Cheap Meddling, Closet Marxists and Racial Tensions  -  by Ricardo Vaz

https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/11/03/russiadidit-cheap-meddling-close...

"...It seems like all the evils that plague the western world these days have a common cause. Brexit, Catalonia, Trump, racial tensions, the lack of credibility of the EU, all of these have a simple explanation, if we are to believe the mainstream media and pundits: Russia is behind it. And not just Russia, but Putin himself. He must be the busiest villain in history.

We start of course with the ineffable Guardian..."

When your skullduggery is revealed, adopt a woe is me, everybody's blaming me for everything, stance.  Not a novel tactic.

NDPP

To Ban Or Not To Ban? (MUST WATCH!)

https://youtu.be/G4gGviyKeGw

"ICO to decide fate of Russian team at 2018 Winter Olympics."

Mr. Magoo

I guess they decided.

IOC bans Russia from 2018 Winter Olympics

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The International Olympic Committee has banned Russia from competing at the 2018 Winter Olympics in Pyeongchang, South Korea, following a vote on Tuesday.

However, it allows for individual Russian athletes "under strict conditions" to compete as an "Olympic Athlete from Russia [OAR]" without their national flag or anthem, according to a release from the IOC.

NDPP

International Olympic Committee Bans Russia From 2018 Olympics in Political Provocation

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/12/06/olym-d06.html

"...The sham decision is a political provocation. It has much less to do with steroid use by Russian athletes than with US imperialism's aim to humiliate and isolate Russia before the court of world public opinion. The purpose of all this is to present the image of Russia as the ultimate pariah state. The IOC, second only to FIFA in its corruption and parasitism, is continuing its long tradition of subordinating itself to the designs of world imperialism..."

 

'The Murder of Our National Sport' Russian Athletes Forced To Compete Under Neutral Flag (and vid)

https://on.rt.com/8txp

"Legendary figure-skating trainer Tatyana Tarasova described the IOC's decision to ban the Russian team as 'the murder of our national sport."

See also #84 above

Mr. Magoo

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It has much less to do with steroid use by Russian athletes than with US imperialism's aim to humiliate and isolate Russia before the court of world public opinion.

Bolding mine.  Did I miss the article where they acknowledged that steroid use??  Or did we skip that admission and move right to how it's all "Russophobia"?

JKR

Maybe Hillary was really the one behind the Russian sport steroid scandal?

Mr. Magoo

Along with Christia Freeland.

NDPP

IOC Bans Russia: Cold War 2.0 Politics Ruins The Olympics

https://www.newcoldwar.org/ioc-bans-russia-cold-war-2-0-politics-ruins-o...

"...Russia should be treated like any other country, we can surely all agree on that. Alas, that isn't what appears to have happened. As I noted here, all roads in the campaign to ban Russia, led back to the US and Canada. Far from providing 'conclusive evidence' the McLaren report was struggling to do the job of getting Russia banned..."

NDPP

Bigotry & Xenophobia About 'The Russians' is the Only Kind PC Culture Allows

https://on.rt.com/907q

"Russia is bad, bad, bad..."

 

Stephen Cohen on War With Russia & Soviet-Style Censorship in the US

https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/02/12/stephen-cohen-on-war-with-russia...

"I had been arguing for years - very much against the American political grain - that a new US/Russia Cold War was unfolding - driven primarily by politics in Washington not Moscow. For this perspective, I had been largely excluded from influential print, broadcast and cable outlets where I had been previously welcomed..."

NDPP

Another 'Russian Hacker' Story Debunks Itself

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/08/another-russian-hacker-story-debun...

"The British news agency Reuters is again distributing false claims about 'Russian hacking'. Back in December the same Reuters 'European Cybersecurity Correspondent', Jack Stubbs authored another wild scare-story that blamed some dubious Russian group for a different leak of UK government papers. It was as fact-free as his current one. Stubb's should ask his MI6 handers to stop embarrassing him."

 

'Ode To Putin'

https://twitter.com/insomnijack/status/1290518793483988993

"...Russians are totally responsible for trump and portland. yep; the russians."

As amply demonstrated with 'Russiagate',  actual verified truth becomes  completely unnecessary when appealing to Russophobia.

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