I do think the unaccountable private bureaucracies of Google/Facebook/Twitter are preferable to US government regulation of web traffic and search results.
I'm inclined to agree and I'd add that no other government, including our own, would be preferable either. There's something relatively pure about the quest for filthy lucre -- I trust that more than I trust a government with political goals.
I guess I just have a very different perception of the world. I trust huge corporations less than any other group I can think of. Governments are bad, but not nearly as bad as private corporations, in my view.
Mr. Magoo wrote:
And despite what doomsayers may insist, Google does have competition. If you don't trust them, for this or any other reason, try DuckDuckGo.
Yes, I've been using DDG as my main search engine for 3 or 4 years now. They say they don't track you, but I'm not sure I believe them.
Mr. Magoo wrote:
The lingering problem, of course, is that even if you take your searching elsewhere, other people might not, and then heaven forbid they'll never be "woke" by RT's awesome truth machine.
When they came for RT, I said nothing, because I considered it Russian propaganda.
I guess I just have a very different perception of the world. I trust huge corporations less than any other group I can think of. Governments are bad, but not nearly as bad as private corporations, in my view.
Are they bad in the same way, or in different ways?
I don't trust Google not to use my browsing history to show me targetted ads -- in fact, it happens all the time.
But I trust Google more than I trust the U.S. State Department to decide who and who isn't a source of tainted news.
Quote:
When they came for RT, I said nothing, because I considered it Russian propaganda.
And when they hadn't yet come for Breitbart and the Daily Caller, you egged them on to do so for the same reason.
I think you may have totally missed Martin Niemoller's point.
ed'd to add: and FWIW, corporations may be actually MORE accountable than governments in a context like this.
If the government is in charge of search engine rankings, and you think they're being dishonest about it, you get to wait until the next general election to tell them so by voting for someone else, and if lots of people don't agree then the government can still win the election and get right back at it with no penalty.
If one search engine company is in charge of search engine rankings, and you think they're being dishonest about it, you can tell them so immediately by using another search engine, and even if 51% of users disagree with you, they'll still feel the sting from the 49% who don't -- it's not 'winner take all'.
I'm not sure how any company that needs business to stay afloat can be "unaccountable". Apart from results at the ballot box, governments aren't even accountable for blatantly broken promises, nevermind anything else.
I guess I just have a very different perception of the world. I trust huge corporations less than any other group I can think of. Governments are bad, but not nearly as bad as private corporations, in my view.
Are they bad in the same way, or in different ways?
I don't trust Google not to use my browsing history to show me targetted ads -- in fact, it happens all the time.
But I trust Google more than I trust the U.S. State Department to decide who and who isn't a source of tainted news.
In the same way. They both represent power over what is considered legitimate news. Google couldn't care less about the merits of the question, they only care about optimizing their profits. Plus, we have absolutely no access to their internal processes or the data on which they base their decisions. The government is composed of politicians who only care about doing what their donors want (probably not that different from what Google wants), but also civil servants who may in fact have a bit of idealism about their jobs, and will sometimes leak things the politicians don't want to have public. Plus, there is always the chance there may be one or two honest and well-motivated politicians as well. No such hope in corporations, where the "fiduciary duty" is to maximize profits for the shareholders.
Mr. Magoo wrote:
Quote:
When they came for RT, I said nothing, because I considered it Russian propaganda.
And when they hadn't yet come for Breitbart and the Daily Caller, you egged them on to do so for the same reason.
I think you may have totally missed Martin Niemoller's point.
Yeah, that does seem hypocritical on my part, so I guess I have to put up with Breitbart and Daily Caller appearing on Google News. Once again, my bad.
Would it be possible for the government to set up a Crown Corporation(or the republican equivalent) to run a search engine in competition with google and other private sector operators? Sort of the way government owned media(CBC etc) give us an alternative to corporate owned outlets, and vice versa, to ensure that neither the public nor private sectors has a monopoly on news and information.
Would it be possible for the government to set up a Crown Corporation(or the republican equivalent) to run a search engine in competition with google and other private sector operators?
Theoretically, sure.
But the problem with search engines is that they're only as good as their database of links, which they create and expand by searching the web (programmatically), following links, indexing everything they find at those links, and moving on to other links. Google and other search engines have quite the head start on that. And naturally, you need servers. Lots and lots of servers. Server FARMS, and plenty of them.
So I don't know if it would be seen as a good investment on the part of the government to try to (poorly) replicate Google or other search engines solely because Google chooses to downrate this or that website.
It's worth noting that even if Google downrates (say) RT.com, you can still find anything you want on RT.com just by prefacing your Google search with "site:RT.com" -- that's basically how I find things on babble (which isn't downrated, but typically doesn't show up on the first page of hits for "abolish senate" or whatever).
She falsely claimed Roy Moore impregnated her at 15. She appears to be part of sting targeting the Washington Post
The Post did not publish an article based on the woman’s unsubstantiated account. The paper’s reporters later connected her to Project Veritas, an organization that targets the mainstream media and left-leaning groups.
At home, the Trump effect is more subtle, but corrosive. The First Amendment does not appear to be in existential danger; on the Supreme Court, Justices appointed by both Republican and Democratic Presidents endorse expansive ideas about free speech, even as they debate interpretations. Yet many of the rights that working journalists enjoy stem from state laws and from the case-by-case decisions of local judges. The climate that Trump has helped create may undermine some of these protections—for example, by prompting state legislatures to overturn shield laws that encode the rights of reporters to protect confidential sources.
Trump’s alignment with right-wing publishers, such as Infowars and Breitbart, some of which see Fox News as the old-school communications arm of an obsolete Republican establishment, reflects a broader fragmentation of the media. Amid the cacophony of the digital era, publishers and advertisers prize readers who are deeply engaged, not just clicking around sites. News organizations as distinct as the Times and Breitbart now think of their audiences as communities in formation, bound by common values. A more openly factional, political journalism need not portend the death of fact-driven, truth-seeking, fair-minded reporting. Yet excellent journalism typically follows a form of the scientific method, prioritizing evidence, transparency, and the replicability of findings; journalism grounded in an ideology can be discredited by the practitioner’s preëmptive assumptions.
Fortunately, in attacking the media Trump has in many ways strengthened it. This year, the Times, the Washington Post, and many other independent, professional enterprises have reminded the country why the Founders enshrined a free press as a defense against abusive power. Among other achievements, the media’s coverage of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation has made transparent the seriousness of its findings so far, and constrained the President’s transparent desire to interfere.
Last Friday, Mueller dropped his latest bombshell, a plea agreement with Michael Flynn, the former national-security adviser, who admitted that, in January, he lied to the F.B.I. about his contacts with Sergey Kislyak, then Russia’s Ambassador to the United States. The court papers filed with Flynn’s plea lay out a story of how senior members of the Trump transition team asked Flynn to communicate with Russian officials on matters of U.S. foreign policy. The papers also contain a reference to a discussion that Flynn had with “a very senior member” of the transition team, a characterization that suggests that the list of names of who that may be is a short one. The chances that history will remember Mueller’s investigation of Trump and his closest advisers as fake news grow slimmer by the day. ♦
Breitbart Writer Exposed as Admin of White Supremacist Facebook Group
Jack Hadfield, who writes for the site run by Steve Bannon, is behind a group that serves as a platform for fascists and white supremacists, report says
read more: https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/1.825453
"Trump's Generals and Zionists on the one hand and the Democrats [also Zionists], liberals, anti-fascists and leftists formed the 'resistance' and fought fiercely for freedom: Freedom to direct the state to censor alternative news or informed discussion debunking the canard about Russian meddling, exposing Ukraine's land grabs, proving Iran's compliance to the nuclear deal and Tel Aviv's baseless warnings about Tehran.
The threat of war spreading across the Middle East: How many families would the unholy trinity of Saudi Arabia-US-Israel slaughter, starve or incarcerate in Yemen, Palestine, Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan? Drowned out by domestic scandals and conspiracies - this carnage did not happen in the news..."
China, Saudi Arabia and the US: Shake Up and Shake Down - by James Petras
Americans, not the 1%, but the other 99%, are screwed as it is only going to get much, much worse for them And of course we will experience the ripple effect in Canada as well
The problem with fake news is that after Putin, Trump is the biggest fake news perpetrator on the planet
And Trump has discovered twitter which allows him to bypass any news media filter and project his lies and deceit directly to the voters of America. Trump is moving towards making the USA system emmulate his and NDPP's hero former KGB Putin with his Russian dictatorship.
Trump does it because he knows the power of advertising/marketing, Madison Avenue and the media to manipulate the braindead American voters
AT&T Credits Trump for Bonus Its Union Already Negotiated
AT&T promised $1,000 in bonuses because of the GOP tax plan on Wednesday. But the union representing AT&T workers bargained for that bonus earlier this month.
The US ambassador to the Netherlands faced an excruciating moment on television when he denied ever saying that there were no-go zones in the Netherlands, calling the suggestion “fake news”.
...Zwart (interviewer - Maestro) says: “You mentioned in a debate that there are no-go zones in the Netherlands, and that cars and politicians are being set on fire in the Netherlands.”
Hoekstra replies: “I didn’t say that. This is actually an incorrect statement. We would call it fake news.”
Hoekstra is then shown clips of him saying: “The Islamic movement has now gotten to a point where they have put Europe into chaos. Chaos in the Netherlands, there are cars being burnt, there are politicians that are being burnt ... and yes there are no-go zones in the Netherlands.”
Challenged about having called this “fake news”, Hoekstra then went on to deny to Zwart that he had in fact used the phrase “fake news”.
“I didn’t call that fake news. I didn’t use the words today. I don’t think I did.”
Absolutely amazing.
"I didn't say that". Presented with proof, "I didn't say I didn't say that"
Presumably if presented with proof of the second statement, "I didn't say I didn't say I didn't say that".
Garossino: Now we’ve got Jack Posobiec in the picture, which brings us to Canada’s Rebel Media. Jack Posobiec, for the early part of 2017, was the Washington bureau chief for Rebel Media, which at the time was fanning anti-immigrant hatred in the United States under the free speech banner.
It was a very curious position for a Canadian media outlet to be taking in the United States. Can you tell us about what you observed with Rebel Media and Jack Posobiec and some of the other figures involved in that media organization?
Orr: That’s one of my favourite topics. One of the first times that Rebel really caught my attention was during one the protests at Berkeley when they were sending their – I can’t use the word ‘journalist’ because they’re not journalists. So whatever you want to call the people who work at Rebel Media.
Garossino: Provocateurs maybe.
Orr: Yes, yes. Agitators. They were sending them down to Berkeley and I remember seeing Gavin McInnes and Lauren Southern — a lot of these people are no longer working for Rebel. And there were pictures of Lauren Southern in goggles and a helmet and posing with people holding sticks and shields. And not the kind of thing you do if you’re just going down to cover an event. You know, she was an active participant in things.
Garossino: She was a headliner. Southern parted ways with The Rebel at about that time, but continued to be featured on the site.
Orr: She was. Then she talked about how the Antifa black bloc were going to be violent and how they needed to defend themselves.
Basically setting the stage so that people showed up ready for a fight regardless of what it actually looked like on the ground. They would then go and film the fight that they had taken a pretty large role in orchestrating. And then report on it.
Screnshot from YouTube video showing former Rebel correspondent Faith Goldy preparing to cover Berkeley rally from April 26, 2017
"The Intercept's Jeremy Scahill speaks to Risen about his years long battle with the Dept of Justice - spanning both the Bush and Obama administrations - as well as his struggles with his own editors at the NYT..."
Donald Trump is a liar. Not just in the sense that we are all fallible human beings who probably say things that aren’t true sometimes — he has made flagrant disregard for the truth a hallmark of his approach to business and politics.
He wrote about his strategic use of dishonesty in The Art of The Deal. He admitted to routinely lying about important matters in a sworn deposition. And of course it’s obvious to anyone who’s followed his political career that he has continued to exhibit a flagrant disregard for the truth as he pivoted from real estate developer to celebrity brand licenser to president. A core belief of his is that lying is a good way to get ahead, which is why he lies so much.
Most international news coverage in Western media is provided by only three global news agencies based in New York, London and Paris and their reporting is uniformly aligned with the views of Western governments.
"This week neo-con dumpster fire Daily Beast did a pathetic McCarthyite attack piece on Tulsi Gabbard. Matt Taibbi broke down this new low for Rolling Stone."
I guess I just have a very different perception of the world. I trust huge corporations less than any other group I can think of. Governments are bad, but not nearly as bad as private corporations, in my view.
Yes, I've been using DDG as my main search engine for 3 or 4 years now. They say they don't track you, but I'm not sure I believe them.
When they came for RT, I said nothing, because I considered it Russian propaganda.
Are they bad in the same way, or in different ways?
I don't trust Google not to use my browsing history to show me targetted ads -- in fact, it happens all the time.
But I trust Google more than I trust the U.S. State Department to decide who and who isn't a source of tainted news.
And when they hadn't yet come for Breitbart and the Daily Caller, you egged them on to do so for the same reason.
I think you may have totally missed Martin Niemoller's point.
ed'd to add: and FWIW, corporations may be actually MORE accountable than governments in a context like this.
If the government is in charge of search engine rankings, and you think they're being dishonest about it, you get to wait until the next general election to tell them so by voting for someone else, and if lots of people don't agree then the government can still win the election and get right back at it with no penalty.
If one search engine company is in charge of search engine rankings, and you think they're being dishonest about it, you can tell them so immediately by using another search engine, and even if 51% of users disagree with you, they'll still feel the sting from the 49% who don't -- it's not 'winner take all'.
I'm not sure how any company that needs business to stay afloat can be "unaccountable". Apart from results at the ballot box, governments aren't even accountable for blatantly broken promises, nevermind anything else.
In the same way. They both represent power over what is considered legitimate news. Google couldn't care less about the merits of the question, they only care about optimizing their profits. Plus, we have absolutely no access to their internal processes or the data on which they base their decisions. The government is composed of politicians who only care about doing what their donors want (probably not that different from what Google wants), but also civil servants who may in fact have a bit of idealism about their jobs, and will sometimes leak things the politicians don't want to have public. Plus, there is always the chance there may be one or two honest and well-motivated politicians as well. No such hope in corporations, where the "fiduciary duty" is to maximize profits for the shareholders.
Yeah, that does seem hypocritical on my part, so I guess I have to put up with Breitbart and Daily Caller appearing on Google News. Once again, my bad.
Attacks on Media, Like Roy Moore’s, Endanger Democracy
Politicians who cry “fake news” in response to credible media investigations ultimately can provide cover for corruption and authoritarianism
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/attacks-on-media-like-...
How Trump turned Sean Hannity into a conspiracy theorist
The Fox News host is sounding a lot like Alex Jones.
https://www.vox.com/videos/2017/11/22/16692190/strikethrough-trump-sean-...
Demonising Russia and RT
https://t.co/oGzGzehV6s
"The dark effects of liberal authoritarianism..."
Russians do a good job of demonizing themselves.
When humans associate in groups they tend to do a ggod job of that. Whatever the group.
This is why I have come to dislike nationalism.
Four Viral Claims Spread by Journalists on Twitter in the Last Week Alone That Are False
https://theintercept.com/2017/11/05/four-viral-claims-spread-by-journali...
Journalism Is Imploding Just When We Need It Most
But we may have one last shot at a reset.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/11/journalism-is-imploding-just...
Would it be possible for the government to set up a Crown Corporation(or the republican equivalent) to run a search engine in competition with google and other private sector operators? Sort of the way government owned media(CBC etc) give us an alternative to corporate owned outlets, and vice versa, to ensure that neither the public nor private sectors has a monopoly on news and information.
Theoretically, sure.
But the problem with search engines is that they're only as good as their database of links, which they create and expand by searching the web (programmatically), following links, indexing everything they find at those links, and moving on to other links. Google and other search engines have quite the head start on that. And naturally, you need servers. Lots and lots of servers. Server FARMS, and plenty of them.
So I don't know if it would be seen as a good investment on the part of the government to try to (poorly) replicate Google or other search engines solely because Google chooses to downrate this or that website.
It's worth noting that even if Google downrates (say) RT.com, you can still find anything you want on RT.com just by prefacing your Google search with "site:RT.com" -- that's basically how I find things on babble (which isn't downrated, but typically doesn't show up on the first page of hits for "abolish senate" or whatever).
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029884142
https://twitter.com/conspirator0/status/900158639884955648
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/investigations/a-woman-approached...
She falsely claimed Roy Moore impregnated her at 15. She appears to be part of sting targeting the Washington Post
The Post did not publish an article based on the woman’s unsubstantiated account. The paper’s reporters later connected her to Project Veritas, an organization that targets the mainstream media and left-leaning groups.
https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2017/11/27/she-falsely-claimed-roy-mo...
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/12/11/michael-flynns-guilty-plea-sends-donald-trumps-lawyers-scrambling
http://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/world/trump-tweets-i-never-asked-comey-to-stop-investigating-flynn-1.3705040
At home, the Trump effect is more subtle, but corrosive. The First Amendment does not appear to be in existential danger; on the Supreme Court, Justices appointed by both Republican and Democratic Presidents endorse expansive ideas about free speech, even as they debate interpretations. Yet many of the rights that working journalists enjoy stem from state laws and from the case-by-case decisions of local judges. The climate that Trump has helped create may undermine some of these protections—for example, by prompting state legislatures to overturn shield laws that encode the rights of reporters to protect confidential sources.
Trump’s alignment with right-wing publishers, such as Infowars and Breitbart, some of which see Fox News as the old-school communications arm of an obsolete Republican establishment, reflects a broader fragmentation of the media. Amid the cacophony of the digital era, publishers and advertisers prize readers who are deeply engaged, not just clicking around sites. News organizations as distinct as the Times and Breitbart now think of their audiences as communities in formation, bound by common values. A more openly factional, political journalism need not portend the death of fact-driven, truth-seeking, fair-minded reporting. Yet excellent journalism typically follows a form of the scientific method, prioritizing evidence, transparency, and the replicability of findings; journalism grounded in an ideology can be discredited by the practitioner’s preëmptive assumptions.
Fortunately, in attacking the media Trump has in many ways strengthened it. This year, the Times, the Washington Post, and many other independent, professional enterprises have reminded the country why the Founders enshrined a free press as a defense against abusive power. Among other achievements, the media’s coverage of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation has made transparent the seriousness of its findings so far, and constrained the President’s transparent desire to interfere.
Last Friday, Mueller dropped his latest bombshell, a plea agreement with Michael Flynn, the former national-security adviser, who admitted that, in January, he lied to the F.B.I. about his contacts with Sergey Kislyak, then Russia’s Ambassador to the United States. The court papers filed with Flynn’s plea lay out a story of how senior members of the Trump transition team asked Flynn to communicate with Russian officials on matters of U.S. foreign policy. The papers also contain a reference to a discussion that Flynn had with “a very senior member” of the transition team, a characterization that suggests that the list of names of who that may be is a short one. The chances that history will remember Mueller’s investigation of Trump and his closest advisers as fake news grow slimmer by the day. ♦
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/12/11/donald-trumps-fake-news-ta...
Breitbart Writer Exposed as Admin of White Supremacist Facebook Group
Jack Hadfield, who writes for the site run by Steve Bannon, is behind a group that serves as a platform for fascists and white supremacists, report says
read more: https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/1.825453
https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/1.825453
"Trump's Generals and Zionists on the one hand and the Democrats [also Zionists], liberals, anti-fascists and leftists formed the 'resistance' and fought fiercely for freedom: Freedom to direct the state to censor alternative news or informed discussion debunking the canard about Russian meddling, exposing Ukraine's land grabs, proving Iran's compliance to the nuclear deal and Tel Aviv's baseless warnings about Tehran.
The threat of war spreading across the Middle East: How many families would the unholy trinity of Saudi Arabia-US-Israel slaughter, starve or incarcerate in Yemen, Palestine, Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan? Drowned out by domestic scandals and conspiracies - this carnage did not happen in the news..."
China, Saudi Arabia and the US: Shake Up and Shake Down - by James Petras
http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_78174.shtml
Ye of ‘Bad Faith’
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2017/12/ye-of-bad-faith/547562/
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42108002
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/08/trump-fake-news-despots-287129
Trump’s Manipulation of Mass Consciousness
Repeat lies endlessly and with enough authority and you’ll make others believe what you want them to.
https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2017/12/08/Trumps-Manipulation-Of-Mass-Consci...
Americans, not the 1%, but the other 99%, are screwed as it is only going to get much, much worse for them And of course we will experience the ripple effect in Canada as well
https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-next-step-in-the-radical-trump-gop-agenda-gut-the-welfare-state
The problem with fake news is that after Putin, Trump is the biggest fake news perpetrator on the planet
And Trump has discovered twitter which allows him to bypass any news media filter and project his lies and deceit directly to the voters of America. Trump is moving towards making the USA system emmulate his and NDPP's hero former KGB Putin with his Russian dictatorship.
Trump does it because he knows the power of advertising/marketing, Madison Avenue and the media to manipulate the braindead American voters
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-prodigious-television-news-consumption-new-york-times-report
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/i-study-liars-ive-never-seen-one-like-president-trump/2017/12/07/4e529efe-da3f-11e7-a841-2066faf731ef_story.html?undefined=&utm_term=.153242e9379c&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1
Bingo!
Most Americans haven't a clue what's coming down the pipes.
Sadly but frankly, Donald Trump is not going anywhere
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/sadly-frankly-donald-trump-1712...
http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/11/politics/sarah-sanders-press-briefing-analysis/index.html
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/dec/12/2017-lie-year-russian-election-interference-made-s/
The only way it seems the USA is evewr going to have some sanity in its politics is to shut down Fox News. How can Murdoch be stopped?
How Fox News and President Trump create an anti-Mueller 'feedback loop'
http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/16/media/fox-news-campaign-against-fbi-robe...
Sanders brushes off 'hoax' Russia probe, backs calls to investigate wrongdoing under Obama
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/21/bob-mueller-hoax-russia-invest...
AT&T Credits Trump for Bonus Its Union Already Negotiated
AT&T promised $1,000 in bonuses because of the GOP tax plan on Wednesday. But the union representing AT&T workers bargained for that bonus earlier this month.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/atandt-credits-trump-for-bonus-its-union-a...
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/hannity-tells-nbc-read-and-learn-story-it-published
US ambassador to the Netherlands describes his own words as 'fake news'
Absolutely amazing.
"I didn't say that". Presented with proof, "I didn't say I didn't say that"
Presumably if presented with proof of the second statement, "I didn't say I didn't say I didn't say that".
The Canadian Fake News connection.
Who the hell is @RVAwonk and how is she cracking the Kremlin's code?
She even observed the curious role played by Canada's Rebel Media, and joined me for an extended telephone interview.
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Garossino: Now we’ve got Jack Posobiec in the picture, which brings us to Canada’s Rebel Media. Jack Posobiec, for the early part of 2017, was the Washington bureau chief for Rebel Media, which at the time was fanning anti-immigrant hatred in the United States under the free speech banner.
It was a very curious position for a Canadian media outlet to be taking in the United States. Can you tell us about what you observed with Rebel Media and Jack Posobiec and some of the other figures involved in that media organization?
Orr: That’s one of my favourite topics. One of the first times that Rebel really caught my attention was during one the protests at Berkeley when they were sending their – I can’t use the word ‘journalist’ because they’re not journalists. So whatever you want to call the people who work at Rebel Media.
Garossino: Provocateurs maybe.
Orr: Yes, yes. Agitators. They were sending them down to Berkeley and I remember seeing Gavin McInnes and Lauren Southern — a lot of these people are no longer working for Rebel. And there were pictures of Lauren Southern in goggles and a helmet and posing with people holding sticks and shields. And not the kind of thing you do if you’re just going down to cover an event. You know, she was an active participant in things.
Garossino: She was a headliner. Southern parted ways with The Rebel at about that time, but continued to be featured on the site.
Orr: She was. Then she talked about how the Antifa black bloc were going to be violent and how they needed to defend themselves.
Basically setting the stage so that people showed up ready for a fight regardless of what it actually looked like on the ground. They would then go and film the fight that they had taken a pretty large role in orchestrating. And then report on it.
Screnshot from YouTube video showing former Rebel correspondent Faith Goldy preparing to cover Berkeley rally from April 26, 2017
https://www.nationalobserver.com/2017/12/28/opinion/who-hell-rvawonk-and...
James Risen Describes His Long Fight To Report on Government Secrets At The New York Times
https://theintercept.com/2018/01/04/james-risen-long-fight-reporting-gov...
"The Intercept's Jeremy Scahill speaks to Risen about his years long battle with the Dept of Justice - spanning both the Bush and Obama administrations - as well as his struggles with his own editors at the NYT..."
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/5/30/17404840/trump-lies-demonstrable-falsehoods
https://www.newsandguts.com/night-nashville-lie-lie-lie/
Trump on pace for 10,000 lies if he serves his full term:
https://www.poynter.org/news/10000-trump-misstatements-end-his-term-washington-post-fact-checker-says-its-possible
Finland is winning the war on Fake News
https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2019/05/europe/finland-fake-news-intl/
Mr Mainstream, what shit you shovel...
Living in the real, as opposed to fake world, due to its location, and its size, Finland has a bit of an awareness about this topic.
Of course CBC, NYTimes, WAPO, etc. are, when it suits them, active members of the Fake News Propaganda Society (FNPS) as well.
The Propaganda Multiplier: How Global News Agencies and Western Media Report on Geopolitics
https://t.co/C0HYDXaRfQ
Most international news coverage in Western media is provided by only three global news agencies based in New York, London and Paris and their reporting is uniformly aligned with the views of Western governments.
Delivered to you fresh daily by Mr Mainstream.
Tulsi Gabbard invokes Trump's 'fake news' rhetoric to push back on report of Russia-linked support
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/20/politics/tulsi-gabbard-fake-news-russia/index.html
"All the talk about 'fake news' is nonsense. It's called propaganda. And the mainstream media are the most culpable."
https://twitter.com/BungaCast/status/1128925599978971138
Like CNN.
[quote=NorthReport]
Tulsi Gabbard invokes Trump's 'fake news' rhetoric to push back on report of Russia-linked support
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/20/politics/tulsi-gabbard-fake-news-russia/index.html
[quote=NDPP]
"This week neo-con dumpster fire Daily Beast did a pathetic McCarthyite attack piece on Tulsi Gabbard. Matt Taibbi broke down this new low for Rolling Stone."
https://twitter.com/LeeCamp/status/1130922680830627840
Far-right Facebook groups 'spreading hate to millions in Europe'
Avaaz uncovers 500 accounts using fake news to spread white supremacy message
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/22/far-right-facebook-groups-spreading-hate-to-millions-in-europe
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