How to disagree without personally attacking other babblers

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If you are a sociopath, you have no concern for how the other person might feel from what you say. You have no way of considering the consequences of it, and most importantly no desire to. Very advanced studies have shown that the electrochemical impulses in brains of sociopaths are very different from those who are not sociopathic. To this date, there is no cure for sociopathy. It has however been found that there is a nature + nurture aspect to it. If a person with a sociopathic electrochemical brain pattern grows up in a loving household, they do not act in sociopathic ways, even though they are diagnosable as a sociopath. If however the person has grown up in an abusive household with lots of yelling and screaming and worse, they will become fully sociopathic in their behaviour.

If you are a sociopath and your own cat is killed, it is a catastrophe of epic proportions. But if someone else's cat is killed, it is of no concern at all. It is not your cat. What is good for the sociopath is not good for anyone else. The sociopath must control their victims, and because of the poisoned state of society in general (caused mainly by sociopaths who have no concern for other people and social responsibility in general) there are plenty of victims out there, who are unconsciously seeking a sociopath.

If you personally attack someone without consideration of how the other person will feel from your attack, you might be a sociopath.

No amount of cajoling or policy or whatever will change the behaviour of a sociopath. A person who personally attacks other people, labels them, and calls them names shows no empathy, and is hence a sociopath. They are incorrigible and irredeemable.

Sociopaths and psychopaths make any collective situation extremely difficult. Their victims are somehow drawn to them like moths to a flame, because they remind them of a family member or someone else, and maybe this one won't be so bad. The emotional profile of the victim is thrown off-balance, and stress levels rise considerably in the victim, sometimes causing them to lose sleep and other effects. Sociopaths present very well at the beginning. That is what they do, to draw the victim in.

The only solution to sociopathy is to exile that person from the collective. If you detect this kind of behaviour and there is no way the sociopath will leave, or there is no desire in the responsible parties in the collective to exile the sociopath, you should leave yourself. If you wish to stay, you should be informed that presence of such a person will raise your stress levels somewhat.

If you consider yourself to be very tough, hang around and see how much that is true :D

If you have taken a break from this site and you have intellectualized another reason (which may be completely valid) why you did, you might also consider this.

If you come back to the collective, and the same people are there, you may find yourself going through the same emotional ranges, and want to leave again.

If you are a sociopath, you will never admit it. You must be exiled by force. A tell-tale sign of a sociopath is someone who is able to behave in an extremely bad manner toward someone else, and then a second later act like nothing ever happened, while the victim is still trembling in fear.

Mr. Magoo

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If you are a sociopath, you will never admit it.

Also, if I'm not one.

Anyway, suggesting that other babblers are sociopaths (because they were mean to you) isn't any less gross than suggesting they're schizophrenic (because they refuse to "see reality").

As the drug commercials say, "Ask your doctor if discussing politics with people who might have other opinions is right for you."

montgomery

progressive17 wrote:
If a person with a sociopathic electrochemical brain pattern grows up in a loving household, they do not act in sociopathic ways, even though they are diagnosable as a sociopath. 

[b]If you are a sociopath and your own cat is killed, it is a catastrophe of epic proportions. But if someone else's cat is killed, it is of no concern at all. It is not your cat. What is good for the sociopath is not good for anyone else. [/b]

Very poor analogy! 

Well that's interesting! Are you a professional who knows what he's/she's talking about, or did you make that up?

It seems to me that there's no way to know if a person is a sociopath if he/she doesn't demonstrate the behaviour. Can you explain that? 

I'm not being sarcastic, I'm truly interested because sociopathic behaviour is being demonstrated by Trump in my opinion. How can we know a sociopath if the person doesn't show by his behaviour? Or is that just recognizable by professionals?

earthquakefish

montgomery wrote:
Trump does display and at an unfortunate time, I'm sure he knows during this pandemic he can sway..... Trump is an elephant in the room, but there is another one... maybe larger.

For how he incites, purposefully, he is also not wrong when he tells those looking to impeach, use the 25th ammendment by the vice president, will come with no harm. In one way, it his him saying, I can't know what I will do - but in another way, he is saying an orderly way out.  He may know his supporters, in example, are violent, or willing to be, and it stops here.

He got want he wanted, as a sociopath, unyielding supporters willing to go to any length.  He has the legacy he wants, megolomanic. 

 

progressive17 wrote:
If a person with a sociopathic electrochemical brain pattern grows up in a loving household, they do not act in sociopathic ways, even though they are diagnosable as a sociopath. 

[b]If you are a sociopath and your own cat is killed, it is a catastrophe of epic proportions. But if someone else's cat is killed, it is of no concern at all. It is not your cat. What is good for the sociopath is not good for anyone else. [/b]

Very poor analogy! 

Well that's interesting! Are you a professional who knows what he's/she's talking about, or did you make that up?

It seems to me that there's no way to know if a person is a sociopath if he/she doesn't demonstrate the behaviour. Can you explain that? 

I'm not being sarcastic, I'm truly interested because sociopathic behaviour is being demonstrated by Trump in my opinion. How can we know a sociopath if the person doesn't show by his behaviour? Or is that just recognizable by professionals?

epaulo13

..more and more i see arguments or rebuttable arguments that include the phrase similar to "you are telling those people in another country what to do".

..i suggest that this is a departure from reality. and maybe even an accusation.
..we are talking to ourselves here..on this board and maybe some folks looking in from the rabble page. no one else.

..we discuss ideas. toss them around. look at them in all kinds of ways. but in no way are we telling anyone outside this board what to do.

..my own personal view on it is that it is a debating tactic. said to confuse the issue and to gain advantage. a cheap trick in other words.

lagatta4

I only wish there were more people taking part!

lagatta4

I only wish there were more people taking part!

Pondering

I don't hold any grudges against people on this board because I know we are all good people who care about others and want the world to be a better place for everyone not just ourselves. 

My philosophy - Damn, it feels good to be me, I think that might annoy some pepole but, I wish the same for everyone else

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDza6TCO-RA&ab_channel=AndyGrammer

 

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