Unist'ot'en camp

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quizzical

the police convoy is on it's way there right now.

quizzical

news says there's trucks, vans and bus loads of rcmp on the way.

Martin N.

kropotkin1951 wrote:

MartinN fuck off

White people have been telling me that all my life but, here I am. It is interesting that the indigenous are only respected when they are considered to be aligned with activist agendas. Tame indians that toe the cultural Marxist line.

No mention is ever made of the thousands of successful indigenous who contribute to our society, providing jobs and tax revenues. Only the pleading kind who abet activists agendas are welcome. 

Secure in your white privilege, you decide that only opinions YOU endorse are worthy for Indigenous Peoples to consider because, after all, you know better because you are white.

 

quizzical

bs martin there's lots of successful Indigenous people who are not on board with your colonialist mentality.

 

epaulo13

quizzical

this taking me back to 2015 and the Mi'kmaq standoff.

am shaking while we wait 

quizzical

helicopters are circling the camp and rcmp are closing roads and making exclusion zones. 

epaulo13

..short video update

Link

Police have blocked the road at km 27. RCMP arrived at Gidumt'en Access Point about half an hour ago. The Hereditary Chiefs are on their way to the territory.

Martin N.

quizzical wrote:

bs martin there's lots of successful Indigenous people who are not on board with your colonialist mentality.

 

Nice try, quizzical. What evidence do you have to: 1 claim I have a colonialist mentality and 2 support your contrived supposition that successful indigenous automatically support these protests.

Far from having a colonialist mentality, I favour political and direct action that hits the target rather than futile blockades that do nothing except lose the goodwill of Canadians and allow the powerful to hide behind their gatekeepers, the RCMP.

I will repeat that the 'activists' and cultural Marxists are no friends of indigenous peoples. They are self-serving users that rob indigenous people of their voices and leverage with the Feds.

Martin N.

It looks cold enough in those pics that any lawyers out there will be forced to have their hands in their own pockets.

epaulo13

..in an email from the coast protectors.

quote:

We just received word that the RCMP has arrived at an Indigenous camp in northern BC to force a start to the construction of a fracked gas pipeline. 

“We demand that Canada and B.C. call on the RCMP and Coastal GasLink to respect the Unist’ot’en/Giltseyu-Dark House on unceded lands. The provincial and federal governments must revoke the permits for this project until the standards of free, prior and informed consent are met,” said Grand Chief Stewart Phillip yesterday.

The camp was established in 2009 to protect the Yintah (the territory) from Enbridge’s Northern Gateway tar sands pipeline. When that pipeline was defeated, they faced a new enemy -- an enormous fracked gas pipeline from the Peace River region in northwestern BC through their territory to Kitimat and the Pacific.

Last month, TransCanada Coastal GasLink asked for and received an injunction similar to the one granted Kinder Morgan at the Trans Mountain tanker terminal and tank farm in Burnaby last year. The injunction directs the hereditary chiefs to remove the gate at Unist'ot'en camp and allow its employees to begin work on pipeline. If they refuse, they can be fined and jailed, as we saw last year in Burnaby.

BC courts have once again allowed the use of a fundamentally anti-democratic injunction to tear at British Columbia’s relationship with Indigenous Peoples, siding with a massive oil corporation against BC and Canada’s commitment to honour the United Nations Declaration of the Rights of Indigenous Peoples (UNDRIP).

Article 10 of UNDRIP states:

Indigenous peoples shall not be forcibly removed from their lands or
territories. No relocation shall take place without the free, prior and
informed consent of the indigenous peoples concerned and after
agreement on just and fair compensation and, where possible, with
the option of return.

No matter what happens today, tomorrow’s day of action is crucial. More than 30 rallies are planned across the world tomorrow, Tuesday, January 8 to support Unist'ot'en and pressure the provincial and federal governments to intervene.

Find an action in your community on here. If there isn’t one in your community, gather your friends and host one.

kropotkin1951

Martin N. wrote:

Far from having a colonialist mentality, I favour political and direct action that hits the target rather than futile blockades that do nothing except lose the goodwill of Canadians and allow the powerful to hide behind their gatekeepers, the RCMP.

I also think that the blockades are likely futile because our colonial state is once again going to impose the coporate agenda. However since I am in favour of indigenous peoples having their rights respected please enlighten us as to the targets you would aim your magic bullet at. 

quizzical

the police are blocking communication signals now from the camp after only letting 4 hereditary Chiefs in.

 

NDPP

Talk To Trudeau!

Kamloops, Wed. Jan 9, 11:00 - 1:00 PM

https://twitter.com/SecwepemcSeklep/status/1082377570463567872

NDPP

"We are not criminals. This is not reconciliation.  I blame Justin Trudeau and John Horgan."

https://www.facebook.com/unistoten/videos/292839754710734/

 

NDPP

Toronto Solidarity/Protest Rally

Tuesday, Jan8 Dundas Square

1:00 PM

epaulo13

Molly Wickham, spokesperson of Gitdumden Clan, has been arrested along with 11+ others. They will not be released. They are being brought to Prince George to stand before a Justice of the Peace. #wetsuwetenstrong #undrip #nopipelines #unistoten *Arrest count according to eye witness accounts... exact numbers of arrests are still being confirmed***

epaulo13

NDPP

RCMP Arrest 14 People Taking Part in Anti-LNG Pipeline Protest (and vid)

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/rcmp-arrest-14-people-taking-part-in-anti-...

Pigs.

quizzical

don't often agree with you NDPP but i am now.

arrested an elder too.

my heart hurts. 

NDPP

Aboriginal Rights, the Rule of Law and Justice: Each Forsaken

https://dissidentvoice.org/2016/10/aboriginal-rights-the-rule-of-law-and...

"The lie, recently invented by the Supreme Court in willful blindness, is that the aboriginal right is no more than 'the right to be consulted'..."

epaulo13

We can all learn from Wet’suwet’en laws

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In a brilliant response to the injunction, the neighbouring Gitdimt’en clan of the Wet’suwet’en people set up a new checkpoint camp days after the ruling, preventing Coastal GasLink from proceeding to Unist’ot’en that day. The company then sought, and received, an expanded injunction, but the spirit of the land still speaks loud and clear through Gitdimt’en: no trespass on Wet’suwet’en lands.

This principled exercise of Indigenous sovereignty was breached by the violent trespass of Royal Canadian Mounted Police onto Wet’suwet’en lands yesterday, with 14 land protectors arrested so far.

When I visit Wet’suwet’en territories - lands recognized by the Supreme Court of Canada’s Delgamuukw decision as unceded - I am moved by how the people's bonds with the land are renewed by hunting, foraging, medicine-gathering and much more. For instance, just after I arrived, a newly hunted moose had given itself to help sustain the Gitdumt’en camp in the midst of winter, and the people in turn are protecting the habitat of the moose and so much more life.

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As Dr. Karla Tait and Anne Spice point out, the injunction pushing for pipeline industry access to Wet’suwet’en land “shows blatant disregard for Anuk Nu’at’en (Wet’suwet’en law) which pre-dates Canadian and provincial law, for the feast system of governance that upholds Anuk Nu’at’en, and for Aboriginal title."

"Its enforcement would be illegal under both Canadian law and Anuk Nu’at’en," they add. "The dispute over the pipeline is, at heart, a struggle over the meaning of Aboriginal title and the rights of Indigenous peoples to determine the use of their unceded, unsurrendered ancestral territories.”

Having guided people for millennia on this land, traditional Indigenous laws like Anuk Nu’at’en provide more long-term wisdom than colonial laws because embedded within them is a respect for nature. They are ecologically intelligent in a way that western-imposed law is not because they recognize and respect physical limits, teaching us to only “take what we need, and leave the rest”. As such, I see the Wet’suwet’en exercise of their traditional laws and responsibilities as something that everyone needs to learn from in a time of climate emergency.

The Delgamuukw decision in 1997 affirmed the power of Aboriginal title within Canadian law. In particular, it pointed out how central their relationship to land is to Indigenous peoples’ cultures:

The content of aboriginal title contains an inherent limit in that lands so held cannot be used in a manner that is irreconcilable with the nature of the claimants’ attachment to those lands. This inherent limit arises because the relationship of an aboriginal community with its land should not be prevented from continuing into the future. Occupancy is determined by reference to the activities that have taken place on the land and the uses to which the land has been put by the particular group. If lands are so occupied, there will exist a special bond between the group and the land in question such that the land will be part of the definition of the group’s distinctive culture. Land held by virtue of aboriginal title may not be alienated because the land has an inherent and unique value in itself, which is enjoyed by the community with aboriginal title to it. The community cannot put the land to uses which would destroy that value.

(Delgamuukw v. British Columbia, Judgment of the Supreme Court of Canada)

NDPP

Delgamuukw is a fraud.

See #122

epaulo13

..video of police coming over the barricade.

Link

epaulo13

NDPP wrote:

Delgamuukw is a fraud.

See #122

..not according to the wet'suwet'en.

epaulo13

Prince George courthouse this morning.

epaulo13

14 arrested as RCMP enforce injunction on Wet’suwet’en Territory

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Still, hereditary Wet’suwet’en leaders pledged to keep fighting.

“We may have lost this battle but not the war,” said Chief Madeek, hereditary leader of the Gidimt’en clan, whose checkpoint outside the Unist’ot’en camp was toppled first.

Reports from people at the scene said some RCMP officers burst from vehicles idling at the site for most of the day.

Carmen Nikal, 72, was at the check point.

“They (police) spent some time trying to get the barricade down and I stepped away… and there were a couple of the protestors who had secured themselves to the barricade inside, I’m not exactly sure how the rest of us were standing and singing,” she said in an interview on Facebook.

“The only thing I could do was try to block the path between the bus and the bridge. I’m not a big person but I was big enough to stand and they had asked me to move and I said ‘No I’m not moving’ and he said, ‘Well, we can arrest you,’” she said.

“And I’m proud to have been arrested.”

Nikal was taken to the RCMP detachment in Houston, 45 minutes away, processed and released Monday evening.

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After the police road block went up, Madeek joined three other hereditary chiefs in being allowed in to meet with officials from Coastal GasLink at the checkpoint.

“We tried to reason with them,” he told supporters later gathered around a bonfire outside the roadblock.

“We told them they don’t have our permission to be here.”

But the company, a subsidiary of TransCanada, refused to negotiate, added hereditary Chief Namoks.

“They said they had an (interim) injunction and that’s all they needed.”

quote:

Although it’s not clear when RCMP will move on the camp and its occupants.

The company has signed agreements with elected representatives of 20 First Nations along the pipeline route.

But the hereditary clans of the Wet’suwet’en say they are the caretakers of the land and oppose any fossil fuel development.

“We know who we are and we stand strong,” Chief Na’Moks said. “We don’t trust LNG and we don’t trust the RCMP.”

“This is a crisis,” added Grand Chief Stewart Phillip in Vancouver.

His organization – the Union of B.C. Indian Chiefs – accused the RCMP in a statement of intimidating peaceful protesters.

“It is insulting and upsetting that contract workers for LNG can go onto our land (today) and Wet’suwet’en people can’t,” said Na’Moks.

“This calls into question the democracy that is Canada.”

The road block, failed dialogue with the company and arrests were a dramatic end to an increased police presence in Houston, a town about 45 minutes from the camp, over several days.

“We will keep fighting,” added Madeek. “We have too much to lose.”

epaulo13

MP visits Wet’suwet’en blockade to support peaceful resolution

Skeena-Bulkley Valley MP Nathan Cullen is travelling to the Gitdumden checkpoint today, calling on the federal government to demonstrate its commitment to reconciliation by engaging with the Wet’suwet’en hereditary chiefs.

“Following conversations with the Wet’suwet’en hereditary leadership, I intended today to travel to the Gidimt’en checkpoint to show my support for a peaceful resolution and contained dialogue between the RCMP and Wet’suwet’en,” Cullen said in a press release this afternoon.

“Together we were able to secure the passage of a number of Wet’suwet’en chiefs through the RCMP blockade to the Gidimt’en camp. I have been in contact with TransCanada, the BC and Canadian government as well as the RCMP to ask that all sides continue dialogue.”

NDPP

(1995) Supreme Court of Canada Delgamuukw Appeal 'A Hoax'

http://sisis.nativeweb.org/clark/scchoax.html

"...The Attorney General is arguing in affidavit form, that even if the Indians as alleged by Xsgogimlahxa were defrauded by their lawyers into relinquishing their Indian jurisdiction by attorning to the jurisdiction of the non-native domestic court system, now those Indians, or at least some of them, should be stopped from exposing the fraud in which the lawyers and judges are the historic accomplices..."

epaulo13

ndpp

..no one is suggesting that in a nation to nation relationship that the courts are the agreed upon arbitrator. but this is a tool that can be used. as in the case of halting the trans mountain pipeline, as in the case of halting northern gateway, as in the case of halting line 3..as in the delgamuukw which addresses the issue of band vs hereditary consent. i support this wet’suwet’en / unist'ot'en position. this is not a just hoax and people are just being fooled. ubcic has cited delgamuukw.

NDPP

Just so it's clear. Here is the RCMP/Canada legal position on Delgamuukw:

"It is our understanding that there has been no declaration of Aboriginal title in the Courts of Canada. In 1997, the Supreme Court of Canada issued an important decision, Delgamuukw v British Columbia, that considered Aboriginal title to Gitxsan and Wet'suwet'en traditional territories.

The Supreme Court of Canada decided that a new trial was required to determine whether Aboriginal title has been established  for these lands, and to hear from other Indigenous nations which have a stake in the territory claimed.

The new trial has never been held, meaning that Aboriginal title to this land, and which Indigenous nation holds it, has not been determined. Regardless of the outcome of any such trial in the future, the RCMP is the police agency with jurisdiction...."

RCMP Enforce Pipeline Injunction

https://www.interior-news.com/news/rcmp-statement-on-enforcing-pipeline-...

epaulo13

..txs for that ndpp. i am not a lawyer so can't really argue against that. sadly unlike trans mountain and northern gateway  unist'ot'en camp doesn't seem have the kind of money raising ability needed to take this far..but we'll see how things unfold.   

NDPP

The worst thing that could happen is that their assertion of Indigenous sovereignty and the exclusive jurisdiction of their traditional leadership against Canada, its politicians, police and corporations is somehow exploited into a fund-raising campaign led by the Canadian/BC lawyers mafia, for another sovereignty-killing court case precedent like Delgamuukw. 

Incidentally, as a matter of actually existing and binding constitutional and international law, not to mention Gitxsan-Wetsuweten law, NDP MP Cullen has no lawful constituency on their unceded territories 'beyond the treaty frontier' either...

 

Martin N.

kropotkin1951 wrote:

Martin N. wrote:

Far from having a colonialist mentality, I favour political and direct action that hits the target rather than futile blockades that do nothing except lose the goodwill of Canadians and allow the powerful to hide behind their gatekeepers, the RCMP.

I also think that the blockades are likely futile because our colonial state is once again going to impose the coporate agenda. However since I am in favour of indigenous peoples having their rights respected please enlighten us as to the targets you would aim your magic bullet at. 

As you are quite aware, there is no magic bullet but I'll accept your condescension as a marked improvement on your previous smut.

1) Speak with one voice. Each nation must speak as one entity. Whether elected or hereditary, anarchy will not move any issue forward.

2) Set clear goals and prioritize benchmarks to success.

3) Target power brokers and effect tactics that force these brokers, whether political or bureaucratic to accept responsibility, ie: dodge and deflect. (a good example of this is the BC NDP government's craven attempt to deflect any responsibility when their own ministers are up to their necks in the clown show blockade.)

4) Stop doing stupid stunts that play into the hands of the "colonial authority".  Plan a sophisticated long term strategy that leverages the Delgamuukw decision using tactics that are effective in corralling relevant authority to negotiate in good faith, ie: stop grovelling in the snow,40 miles upstream from nowhere and kick 'em in the nuts where they live with their henchmen watching.

Your welcome.

PS: Having Ottawa nobodies like NDP MP Nathan Cullen come out to visit is not 'winning'. Neither is being perp walked to Prince George. What it is, however is giving away leverage to the Feds in the battle for public opinion.

kropotkin1951

MartinN e: stop grovelling in the snow,40 miles upstream from nowhere and kick 'em in the nuts where they live with their henchmen watching.

This is what I was asking you to explain. What do you mean by kick them in the nuts where they live in relation to actual actions that indigenous activists can take?

 

epaulo13

NDPP wrote:

The worst thing that could happen is that their assertion of Indigenous sovereignty and the exclusive jurisdiction of their traditional leadership against Canada, its politicians, police and corporations is somehow exploited into a fund-raising campaign led by the Canadian/BC lawyers mafia, for another sovereignty-killing court case precedent like Delgamuukw. 

Incidentally, as a matter of actually existing and binding constitutional and international law, not to mention Gitxsan-Wetsuweten law, NDP MP Cullen has no lawful constituency on their unceded territories 'beyond the treaty frontier' either...

 

..indigenous folk will decide their own path. which allies to choose and when. which tools to use and when. this is the way of autonomy.

kropotkin1951

Nathan Cullen followed the proper protocols to go onto the disputed territory. His actions to try and broker a stand down and negotiations are commendable but those talks will never see the LFG projects stopped, it will take more than words to make the BC NDP and the oil and gas industry back down.

Martin N.

kropotkin1951 wrote:

MartinN e: stop grovelling in the snow,40 miles upstream from nowhere and kick 'em in the nuts where they live with their henchmen watching.

This is what I was asking you to explain. What do you mean by kick them in the nuts where they live in relation to actual actions that indigenous activists can take?

 

Metaphorically speaking, it relates to taking the struggle from parochial issues such as who gets to cut which tree 40 miles upstream from the middle of nowhere to national issues such as  what percentage of the Ministry of Colonial Suppression annual budget is spent on services to clients as opposed to used in the delivery of those services. Parsing the budget of said department to determine after decades of budgetary allocations for health and welfare of untold billions, why do many indigenous populations still suffer from catastrophic events such as flooding, lack of access to water meeting the standards of the federal Drinking Water Act, sewerage treatment effluent unsafe for humans and sub standard housing.

Even though some responsibility will rest on indigenous shoulders, the net responsibility via the Indian Act is federal.

Get smart. Stop getting drawn into futile legal battles that are designed by "colonial authority" to drain resources and create turmoil. Why is it that well-funded 'activist' organisations can mount sophisticated campaigns that make authority squirm and their "allies" the Unistot'en are forced to beg for handouts to keep their protest alive? Because these same activist orgs can see the writing on the wall and cut their losses because pipelines are their gig, not indigenous advancement.

Until indigenous voices quit cutting deals for themselves and speak with one voice, they are doomed to the status quo.

Martin N.

".indigenous folk will decide their own path. which allies to choose and when. which tools to use and when. this is the way of autonomy."

They need to get a lot smarter because at the present time, they are being led around by the nose by "colonial authority" into squandering their leverage and burning their resources in a 'spinning their wheels' futility chasing federal red herrings.

As long as the "colonial authority" can keep the focus on the symptoms, rather than the solutions, nothing will change. With autonomy goes responsibility and until the forces of autonomy coalesce into a single entity that focuses on solutions rather than moral preening, the Feds will pull the strings and the dupes will dance to the federal tune.

kropotkin1951

Thanks MartinN for your answer. I disagree with it almost completely but that is not surprising.

NDPP

[quote=Martin N.]

[quote]

 Why is it that well-funded 'activist' organisations can mount sophisticated campaigns that make authority squirm and their "allies" the Unistot'en are forced to beg for handouts to keep their protest alive?

[quote=NDPP]

Fair question. I wondered the same. It used to be taken as a matter of course that Sierra Club or WCWC or Greenpeace would cover their direct marketing campaigns in Europe with all things indigenous while all the lovely money rolled lushly into only their own pockets as they fought for park preserves under settler jurisdiction.  It was never a secret that the 'friendlies' got the  funding and frequent flyer miles and lawyers and 'test case' funding while the traditional sovereigntist 'unfriendlies' got ignored, silenced and starved and this was all rationalized by 'letting indigenous work it out for themselves.' But I hoped all that had changed. 

kropotkin1951

Here is a picture from the protest in front of joint offices of the local NDP MLA and MP.  The BC NDP ran on a strong platform of reconciliation that opposite of its approval of this LFG pipeline without consent.

kropotkin1951

epaulo13

..trans mountain & northern gateway was funding raised by indigenous folk for the court cases. raised using indiginous infastructure. unist'ot'en camp funding comes from community group fund raisers. many the lefty radical types. the large environmental groups left long ago when the camp refused to change it's policy of no pipelines. so yes things have come a long way from when thing were different. now it's indigenous folk leading this pipeline/tarsands/climate struggle and raising their own funds. that's not to say enviro groups aren't involved. they are as one of many. and funding and physical support, i assume, of the camp is already rising from this recent attack from transcanada. this is necessary.

NDPP

Toronto in Solidarity With Unist'ote'en (and vid)

https://twitter.com/DesmondCole/status/1082704241582583808

Big turn-out in TO.

epaulo13

epaulo13

The Gitxsen People of Gitwangak stand with the Wet’suwet’en

epaulo13

Support for Wet’suwet’en drives Trudeau to delay speech, change venues

Anger at Canada’s support for fossil fuel expansion boiled over Tuesday, driving Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to physically change venues before giving a speech to Indigenous leaders in Ottawa — where he failed to mention a blockade in British Columbia that had spurred a nationwide solidarity movement.

Trudeau was originally scheduled to give opening remarks at 2:30 p.m. at a government building at 111 Sussex Drive in Ottawa, near his official residence, where an annual forum was being held concerning treaties between First Nations and the Crown.

But he wouldn’t be able to speak until after 4 p.m. He was rerouted at the last minute to another venue across downtown, at 180 Wellington Street opposite Parliament Hill, after a long column of demonstrators charged into the venue.

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He took no questions from media before reporters were ushered out of the room, on a day that saw dozens of demonstrators march past heavy RCMP presence to express their frustration in chants, signs and cries of passion at the building on Sussex.

They are against a proposed 670-kilometre Coastal GasLink Pipeline in B.C. The TransCanada subsidiary wants to carry natural gas from the Dawson Creek area to Kitimat on the west coast.

Many had become furious at the government, after the RCMP arrested over a dozen people for blocking access to the pipeline project, at the Gitdumt'en checkpoint on Morice West Forest Service Road in northern B.C.

Die-in at 111 Sussex

A large crowd of demonstrators holding a red banner reading "RCMP off Wet’suwet’en Land" marches down Wellington Street in Ottawa near Parliament Hill on Jan. 8. Photo by Andrew Meade

NDPP

You see Virginia. There really was a Trudeau  'reconciliation' after all...

https://twitter.com/VeldonCoburn/status/1082409756537438208

 

"Trudeau's raven tattoo trying desperately, to tear itself from his body, escape, witnesses say."

https://twitter.com/TheEaglist/status/1082718512261615626

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