The LDs appear to be picking up momentum
How big a risk are they to the Cons and Lab?
UK's Keir Starmer: Not the Leader Labour Needs
Mon, 2019-05-20 10:13
#52
Mon, 2019-05-20 10:53
#53
Queen Elizabeth: ‘England’s future lies in Europe’
Mon, 2019-05-20 12:36
#54
This latest polling continues to confirm the trend, the momentum, that the United Kingdom citizens wants to remain in the EC.
Kantar’s research finds that remaining in the EU/ Revoking Article 50 remains the most popular outcome for the public, with over one in three saying this is their most favourable scenario (36%, +3 vs Apr). Leaving the European Union with ‘No Deal’ is the preferred outcome for two in ten Britons (22%, -2 vs Apr). One in ten (10%, -2 vs Apr) want to Leave the EU with Theresa May’s deal, and 13% want Britain to leave the EU but remain in the Single Market / Customs Union (-2 vs Apr). One in five (19%) are unsure.
Almost half of Britons are in favour of any final deal or agreement reached by the government being put to a public referendum (47%, -4 vs Apr). 29% of Leave voters and two thirds of Remain voters (68%) say they want any agreement to be put to a public vote.1 in 3 Britons (28%, -4 vs Apr) do not want any final deal put to a public vote and one in four say they do not know (25%, +8).
How would the public vote if a new referendum was held?
Leave 33% (-2 vs April 2019), Remain 42% (+1), Would Not Vote 16% (+1), Don’t Kno
Mon, 2019-05-20 12:39
#55
By my math. 45% support some form of leaving, while 36% support revoking article 50.
Mon, 2019-05-20 12:46
#56
Finally Brexit appears to be dead in the water and thank goodness for that. Getting rid of the Conservative government is the next step.
The Tories have forgotten their pro-EU voters. And they’ll pay for it.
Mon, 2019-05-20 12:50
#57
If I were Jeremy Corbyn I’d be praying for a Boris Johnson victory
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/19/jeremy-corbyn-boris-johnson-tory-party-leader
Mon, 2019-05-20 13:16
#58
Only revoking Article 50 can save us from no-deal oblivion – a new Brexit referendum will have to wait
There simply isn’t time to to hold a public vote before we are due to leave in October
Mon, 2019-05-20 13:17
#59
Racism rising since Brexit vote, nationwide study reveals
Seven in 10 people from ethnic minorities have experienced discrimination, up from 58%
Mon, 2019-05-20 14:05
#60
Fuck you Mr Mainstream...
The Black Opinion: Big Bro's Brexit Breakdown
"This has everything to do with political opportunism and denying the will of the populace that voted overwhelmingly for Brexit. It has been wrapped up as a divisive issue to alienate the public. Those who voted for Brexit have been continually smeared as racists, bigots, thick and unworldly..."
Mon, 2019-05-20 14:49
#61
Now, now, never mind the personal attacks. It just shows the weaknesss of your position.
"Brexit: Not one coherent reason why it will be a good idea."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFK9SU1nmtU
Mon, 2019-05-20 15:43
#62
By my math. 45% support some form of leaving, while 36% support revoking article 50.
By my math only 22% support a hard Brexit.
And also by my math, a the majority now favour “remain” over “leave” by 56% to 44%.
Mon, 2019-05-20 15:58
#63
Even if the referendum were held and Article 50 revoked, there's no reason to think the EU would ALLOW the UK to stay in.
It is absurdly petty to obsess on this one issue to the exclusion of all others.
Mon, 2019-05-20 16:05
#64
I think this one issue is completely monopolizing politics in the UK and that will likely continue until this one issue is settled, which might need years of further negotiations between the UK and EU.
Mon, 2019-05-20 16:23
#65
Hopefully there will be a second referendum and it will begin to put an end to this divisiveness between the UK's right-wing leadership and the rest of Europe. And of course Europe would allow the UK to rejoin.
How easily we forget the wars that Europe has experienced in the not too distant past.
Mon, 2019-05-20 16:41
#66
Hopefully there will be a second referendum and it will begin to put an end to this divisiveness between the UK's right-wing leadership and the rest of Europe. And of course Europe would allow the UK to rejoin.
How easily we forget the wars that Europe has experienced in the not too distant past.
All of us are against repeating that. Preserving the EU status quo does nothing to prevent war-in fact, since the EU's austerity requirements and restrictions on nationalization have done nothing but increase poverty in Europe without giving the working- and kept-from-working poor of Europe any parties to vote for which would actually improve or even prevent further decline in their economic conditions, the EU is actually increasing the chances of war in Europe due to its stubborn, arrogant insistance on causing a perpetual increase in economic inequality and unemployment coupled with perpetual wage stagnation and perpetual cuts in unemployment, i.e., by insisting on imposing throughout Europe which led to the rise of the NSDAP(the Nazis)in Germany in the Twenties.
If ANYONE was proposing a real challenge to what the EU is imposing on its member states, if there was a real chance of a Europe-wide general strike against the EU austerity and privatization requirements, then a case for staying in the institution might be made. As it is, there's a small amount of good in the EU, but the bad has come to outweigh it and none of the Remain forces in the UK are event trying to change that, as far as I can see.
Mon, 2019-05-20 16:59
#67
Ken, I am going to respectfully disagree.
Mon, 2019-05-20 18:20
#68
Hopefully there will be a second referendum and it will begin to put an end to this divisiveness between the UK's right-wing leadership and the rest of Europe. And of course Europe would allow the UK to rejoin.
How easily we forget the wars that Europe has experienced in the not too distant past.
What does that have to do with the neo-liberal, banker run EU. And if you’ll look at your map, you’ll see that the UK is not in Europe.
Mon, 2019-05-20 18:39
#69
Oh my goodness!
Mon, 2019-05-20 19:37
#70
Corbyn's natural position would likely be "Remain and Reform", but the right wing of his party doesn't want the EU reformed. Nor do the LibDems. Not sure if the Greens do, for that matter.
And without radical reform of the EU, there's no possibility for a Labour government to govern on actual Labour values-which is the way the 150 or so anti-Corbyn obsessives in the PLP want it. Those people have based their entire political careers on being the enemies of socialism and the left, on being the enemies of the peace movement and most of the unions, on being the enemies of the poor, as anyone who supports the Tory "benefit sanctions" policies would have to be called-and their entire future rests on making sure Labour can't win an election without deferring to their essentially Tory and militarist agenda.
That's why they are fixated on staying in the EU and preventing the EU from changing-they want the EU to be a permanent obstacle in the path of any challenge to the status quo.
They should all just cross over to the Tory bench and be done with it. At heart, they are Ramsay MacDonald's "National Labour" from the Thirties.
Mon, 2019-05-20 19:29
#71
Corbyn’s natural position would be to leave.
You can’t reform something whose whole raisin d’etre is to eliminate Keynesian economics and to restrict democratic intervention in the economy.
Mon, 2019-05-20 19:38
#72
Corbyn's position should be, and I believe it is, to win the election. Because it is a wee bit easier to change things when you form the government as opposed to opposition.
Sun, 2021-12-12 19:46
#73
A UK Labour thread far more suitable for the endless cogitations by enthusiastic adherents of these sellouts than the United Kingdom thread.
Mon, 2021-12-13 23:45
#74
Sir Keir Starmer: How I got here...
https://twitter.com/thephilippics/status/1470483790946521091
Tue, 2021-12-14 09:39
#75
Sir Keir Starmer: How I got here...
https://twitter.com/thephilippics/status/1470483790946521091
LOL. The use of the very British and somewhat archaic word "prised" is particularly piquant.
Sun, 2022-03-27 05:40
#76
What a mess. Just when working people in the UK desperately need better political leadership another Tony Blair or worse now rules the Labour Party.
Keir Starmer pro-business stance will make Labour unelectable
https://jacobinmag.com/2022/03/keir-starmer-pro-business-unelectable-lab...
Sun, 2022-03-27 14:02
#77
Which is probably what the wealthy donors who financed his leadership campaign wanted.
what we're seeing here is proof that Labour can"t win the next GE by spending more time attacking the Left then the Tories.
Sun, 2022-04-17 13:19
#78
Prof Rosenhead has taken the courageous decision to ignore Labour’s ban on targeted members disclosing details of their persecution, to publish in full his response dismantling the party’s risible suspension of him for citing history and quoting discussions that are on the public record – and its blatantly political abuse of antisemitism accusations to dictate what is acceptable Jewish opinion. The Labour party has so far failed to respond. It is reproduced below with his permission.
https://skwawkbox.org/2022/04/17/83yo-jewish-professor-and-anti-aparthei...
Sun, 2022-04-17 18:38
#79
Aaron Bastani of Novara Media interviews Len McCluskey, longtime union activist and executive, and insider in the Labour party. Unless McCluskey is making stuff up, Starmer is even more of a dishonourable weasel than I had imagined.
Sun, 2022-04-17 19:48
#80
DeltaPoint Survey; April 14, 2022:
Labour: 43%
Conservative: 32%
Liberal Democrat: 9%
Green: 6%
Scottish National: 5%
UKIP: 2%
Reform UK: 2%
Plaid Cymru: 1%
Other: 1%
Sun, 2022-04-17 19:52
#81
When's the next election, because if the polls are unfavourable for them, the Conservatives will just change their leader and probably win again.
Sun, 2022-04-17 20:57
#82
Don't have to hold it for another two years.
Sun, 2022-04-17 21:06
#83
Labour has had a consistent poll lead for the past 6 months, culminating in the 11% lead in the latest poll, referenced above by JKR.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election#2022
Wed, 2022-04-20 18:39
#84
Conservative Troubles
https://www.saltwire.com/atlantic-canada/opinion/gwynne-dyer-no-safety-n...
Sat, 2022-04-23 17:40
#85
Starmer’s car industry donors revealed as Labour calls for nationwide ban to block Just stop oil protests
Keir Starmer/ Just stop oil protests
The Labour leader has called for injunctions against green protesters. Now it has emerged two of his biggest donors were motor industry chiefs.
https://labourheartlands.com/starmers-car-industry-donors-revealed-as-la...
Sat, 2022-04-23 18:26
#86
Keir Starmer faces an agonising dilemma – to call out the Brexit disaster or to stay silent
Keir Starmer promises to ‘make Brexit work’ but says little about how
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/dec/27/brexit-the-biggest-disa...
Sat, 2022-04-23 18:29
#87
Brexit: ‘the biggest disaster any government has ever negotiated’
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/dec/27/brexit-the-biggest-disa...
Sat, 2022-04-23 20:00
#88
Labour’s insistence on calling for another vote on Brexit cost it dearly in 2019. They would be best leaving it alone in the run up to next year’s election.
Sun, 2022-04-24 00:14
#89
Starmer’s car industry donors revealed as Labour calls for nationwide ban to block Just stop oil protests
Keir Starmer/ Just stop oil protests
The Labour leader has called for injunctions against green protesters. Now it has emerged two of his biggest donors were motor industry chiefs.
https://labourheartlands.com/starmers-car-industry-donors-revealed-as-la...
If he's against oil protests, that's a guarantee he'd do nothing green in office. You can't be anti-protest AND pro-action.
Sun, 2022-04-24 00:40
#90
As now being reported with each new day, Brexit is probably the worst thing that has happened to the UK since WW2
It is tragic for progressive working people that Labour did not formally oppose Brexit when when the chips counted.
Labour’s insistence on calling for another vote on Brexit cost it dearly in 2019. They would be best leaving it alone in the run up to next year’s election.
Sun, 2022-04-24 00:41
#91
As is now being reported with each new day, Brexit is probably the worst thing that has happened to the UK since WW2.
It is tragic for progressive working people that Labour did not formally oppose Brexit when when the chips counted. And it shows every sign of getting much, much worse.
Labour’s insistence on calling for another vote on Brexit cost it dearly in 2019. They would be best leaving it alone in the run up to next year’s election.
Sun, 2022-04-24 06:33
#92
More tragic than Thatcher? Ok, then.
Sun, 2022-04-24 11:13
#93
..the key to brexit/eu were corbyn's policies. now they're hooped.
Sun, 2022-04-24 10:43
#94
For someone who rents in the UK how much do they pay annually for energy and does that includes heat?
https://labourheartlands.com/starmers-labour-insist-on-using-a-bandaid-t...
Mon, 2022-04-25 01:09
#95
Mon, 2022-04-25 13:57
#96
Mon, 2022-04-25 14:41
#97
The next United Kingdom general election is scheduled to be held by no later than Friday 24 January 2025
Fri, 2022-04-29 19:58
#98
Conservative voters will vote for the real thing.
And if Boris becomes damaged goods, the Conservatives will dump him and choose someone else more palatable, and win again.
Who Is Keir Starmer?
AN INTERVIEW WITH
A combination of conservatism and careerism has characterized Keir Starmer’s approach to politics. In the context of his ideological trajectory, his most recent round of purges of the Left comes as no surprise.
Labour leader Keir Starmer has waged an unremitting campaign against the left wing of his party. (Chris J. Ratcliffe / Getty Images)
https://jacobinmag.com/2022/04/uk-labour-party-keir-starmer-project-left...
Fri, 2022-04-29 22:03
#99
That's a very interesting interview. One example:
CD
What is Starmer’s standing with the right wing of the Labour Party? It seems pretty clear the scales have fallen from the eyes of anyone on the Left, but a few months ago, there was talk of dissatisfaction in the party with Starmer from the right. His former supporters were now comparing him to Neil Kinnock [the Labour leader who lost two successive elections before stepping down] rather than Blair. Is he still their guy?
OE
There was an article in the Times last week about how Blair has been frustrated with Starmer’s performance. Rather than continuing to advise him behind the scenes, he’s reportedly been pouring a lot of energy into a new organization that he hopes will be a British answer to Emmanuel Macron’s En Marche. Clearly, there is a real dissatisfaction with Starmer among this cohort, but this is always expressed in relation to his media performance: he is seen as not nimble enough, too robotic.
Nevertheless, Starmer remains useful to the Right primarily as a battering ram against the Left. He is undoubtedly a much better manager than he is a politician, having already succeeded in clearing out many socialist staffers from the internal party apparatus, removing the whip from Corbyn, and consigning the Socialist Campaign Group to the fringes of British politics. The Blairite grandees are willing to let Starmer continue his purge and then ultimately replace him with someone who is shinier and more polished in front of the news cameras.
What this approach ignores is precisely the historical difference that I was referring to earlier between the Blairite moment and our own. If they think that simply having someone who’s a better orator is going to solve the basic problem — that it’s impossible to revive the faith in free markets on which Blairism traded — then the right wing of the party is setting itself up for disappointment. We are living in a post-crash, rather than a post-Thatcher, era.
Mon, 2022-05-02 12:26
#100
Bank of England ‘duty bound’ to trigger recession to curb inflation
Britain’s central bank policymakers are “duty bound” when they meet this week to push the UK into recession to cap rising inflation, a former Bank of England (BoE) official has said.
Adam Posen, who runs Washington-based thinktank the Peterson Institute, said that while the Bank of England would not want workers to lose their jobs, it should hike interest rates now to squeeze out inflationary pressures made worse by Brexit trade and immigration restrictions.
The BoE’s monetary policy committee (MPC) meets on Thursday and is expected to increase interest rates by 0.25%, taking the central bank’s base rate to 1% – its highest level since early 2009. Inflation in March peaked at 7% – its highest level for 30 years.....
Fri, 2022-05-06 06:27
#101