Brexit 2

Wed, 2019-05-22 17:19

Mr. Magoo

Quote:
If rumours alone for Brexit is disasterous for the pound, it's scary to think what would happen should Brexit actually occur, eh!

The shitkicking the UK economy is taking isn't because of rumours, and it's not a prelude to actual Brexit. It's the uncertainty. If the UK had actually left the EU promptly, rather than infighting, back-biting, plotting, machinating, complaining, denouncing, resigning, grandstanding, begging and impeding then it would be done by now.

Who wants to invest in a country that may or may not be subject to EU rules in a month? Or three? What if they sob and beg and turn on the waterworks for yet another extension? Investors hate uncertainty.

Wed, 2019-05-22 17:30

#103

Ken Burch

The perpetual austerity requirements of the EU-that's the only thing you can call a mandatory balanced budget policy and rules that make nationalization virtually impossible-are boosting nationalist parties, and in boosting the nationalist parties, are actually subverting the peace.

There was never any excuse for those rules being part of the EU.

Wed, 2019-05-22 17:35

#104

NDPP

'British Steel MUST Be Nationalised'

https://twitter.com/HUNSLETWHITE/status/1131243731150024704

"British Steel MUST be Nationalised to save Scunthorpe! VERY interested to see Labour's Pro-Europe Mob reaction as Europe forbids 'State Intervention'. So far the Silence is Deafening!!!"

Wed, 2019-05-22 17:36

#105

NorthReport

Theresa May is done for – but at least she’ll get some joy at watching Boris Johnson flop too

As Johnson goes to and from Brussels, getting much the same treatment from Barnier and the press as May did, you wouldn’t blame the ex-prime minister for letting out a satisfying ‘I told you so’

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/theresa-may-brexit-boris-johnson-withdrawal-agreement-conservatives-a8925731.html

Wed, 2019-05-22 17:36

#106

Pogo

Are you not sure it isn't because of all the businesses moving out of England

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/number-firms-making-brexit-relocation-plans-rising-230042124.html

Growing numbers of firms have begun relocating part of their business this year because of Brexit, a survey suggests.

Royal Institute of Chartered Surveyors (RICS)’ quarterly commercial property survey of its members found 33% of respondents had seen signs of companies looking to move at least some of their operations. in the first quarter of 2019.

Wed, 2019-05-22 17:44

#107

NorthReport

European peace takes priority over everything else.

Nobel peace prize: 10 things the EU has done for us

As critics ponder why the 2012 Nobel peace prize was awarded to the EU, we look at ten ways in which it has improved our lives

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/oct/12/europe-nobel-peace-prize-10-things

Wed, 2019-05-22 19:57

#108

NDPP

'Brexit is a Crime Scene' (and vid)

https://twitter.com/keepcalm_change/status/1131274262403268608

"The Remainers received a considerable amount of money from BIG AMERICAN BANKS..."

Wed, 2019-05-22 20:05

#109

NorthReport

I agree it's a mess, look at the people already losing their jobs over Brexit.

Brexit Job Loss Index: 224,585 Jobs Lost As Of 23 April 2019

https://smallbusinessprices.co.uk/brexit-index/

Wed, 2019-05-22 21:14

#110

NDPP

Debt is the Hidden Issue in the European Elections

'The European Union remains indifferent to the people's needs, while it caters to every whim of the corporations.' - [Much like the mainstream political parties]

https://off-guardian.org/2019/05/22/debt-is-the-hidden-issue-in-the-euro...

"The citizens of the European Union are called to vote this week for the European Parliament. It is not a real parliament, and it lacks prospects for becoming one, since all important decisions are taken by the unelected heads of the European Commission and the European Central Bank, dubbed 'The Worst-Run Central Bank in the World.'

These elections capture however the general mood of exasperation with current policies. Conservative and extreme Right parties will rise, reflecting widespread skepticism as to the economic course of the EU and its lack of benefits for the common people. The mainstream left unfortunately neglects these issues, and it will pay the price.

The rest of Europe is but one debt crisis away from the fate of Greece. And the global financial bubble is guaranteed to bring this crisis forward, sooner rather than later..."

EU Election The Establishment NEVER Wanted

https://youtu.be/9b7FGLqpqRY

"It's about time the people stood up to the political establishment. May 23 is your chance to show your anger..."

Thu, 2019-05-23 05:42

(Reply to #110) #111

josh

Mr. Magoo wrote:

Quote:
If rumours alone for Brexit is disasterous for the pound, it's scary to think what would happen should Brexit actually occur, eh!

The shitkicking the UK economy is taking isn't because of rumours, and it's not a prelude to actual Brexit. It's the uncertainty. If the UK had actually left the EU promptly, rather than infighting, back-biting, plotting, machinating, complaining, denouncing, resigning, grandstanding, begging and impeding then it would be done by now.

Who wants to invest in a country that may or may not be subject to EU rules in a month? Or three? What if they sob and beg and turn on the waterworks for yet another extension? Investors hate uncertainty.

Well said.

Thu, 2019-05-23 05:43

(Reply to #111) #112

josh

NorthReport wrote:

When asked what the greatest thing about the EU was, he replied simply: "One word, peace.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/22/europe/jean-claude-juncker-interview-european-elections-intl/index.html

Did he say peace, or Greece?

Thu, 2019-05-23 05:45

(Reply to #112) #113

josh

Ken Burch wrote:

The perpetual austerity requirements of the EU-that's the only thing you can call a mandatory balanced budget policy and rules that make nationalization virtually impossible-are boosting nationalist parties, and in boosting the nationalist parties, are actually subverting the peace.

There was never any excuse for those rules being part of the EU.

No point pointing that out to NR. He apparently thinks that the EU is some sort of UN.

Thu, 2019-05-23 08:30

#114

NorthReport

May offers MPs vote on second referendum

https://news.google.com/articles/CBMiYmh0dHBzOi8vbmF0aW9uYWxwb3N0LmNvbS9uZXdzL2JyZXhpdC11cGRhdGUtdGhlcmVzYS1tYXktdG8tb2ZmZXItbXBzLWEtdm90ZS1vbi1hLXNlY29uZC1yZWZlcmVuZHVt0gFmaHR0cHM6Ly9uYXRpb25hbHBvc3QuY29tL25ld3MvYnJleGl0LXVwZGF0ZS10aGVyZXNhLW1heS10by1vZmZlci1tcHMtYS12b3RlLW9uLWEtc2Vjb25kLXJlZmVyZW5kdW0vYW1w?hl=en-CA&gl=CA&ceid=CA%3Aen

Thu, 2019-05-23 09:40

#115

NDPP

"Shocking news about British Steel and a further gift to Nigel Farage and BREXIT as State Aid is forbidden by the legal requirement of the EU. Had the UK already left the EU [As Promised] then these legal requirements would have ceased to exist."

https://twitter.com/KilclooneyJohn/status/1131143745922097153

Fri, 2019-05-24 11:12

#116

NorthReport

So who is going to be the next “Brexit even if it kills us” Prime Minister in the UK?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/24/next-tory-leader-panel-theresa-may-conservatives

Fri, 2019-05-24 16:14

#117

NDPP

The European Union is An Antidemocratic Disgrace

https://twitter.com/EddieDempsey/status/1131903825793703939

"Absolutely superb. This is essential reading."

Brexit Party Soars to 40% Popularity Ahead of EU Election

https://youtu.be/PVsqN7aYWO4

"Parliament slams May's fourth brexit deal proposal ahead of EU elections."

Fri, 2019-05-24 18:04

#118

Mr. Magoo

Dear European Union,

"Oops, we did it again!" -- LOL.

But seriously, though, we know that the last time we begged you for another extension we said it was so that we could all join together, pass the talking stick, listen to one another, accept compromise, and find a way out of this horrid, bug-infested, muddy swamp we're lost in before the sun goes down. And we really meant it this time. But unbelievably, something's come up.

We're afraid we will need, instead, to spend a few weeks, or a few months at most, fighting for the honour of being the captain of this sinking ship. Yes, Brexit is certainly important, as we keep saying, and we'll totally get to the consensus building just as soon as we've had a long, protracted battle for the Iron Throne that will surely consume 99% of our energies and most of the summer. We have before us an opportunity to piss off our entire electorate, so surely you understand we cannot settle for only half. Our bad, it's on us, but we really need to do this first, and we count on your continued grudging patience.

While we acknowledge that schedules and deadlines really aren't our strong suit, we optimistically expect to be finished and done and all the clubs and daggers cleaned and put away by no later than Oct. 30, and should there be a need for further side quests beyond that, we'll do our very best to alert you no later than Oct. 29.

Ever yours (maybe... we'll see -- LOL!),

The United Kingdom

Sat, 2019-05-25 01:11

#119

NDPP

"I will support a second Brexit referendum if MPs guarantee that the following will NOT be eligible to vote: The elderly - the working class - Northerners and any other racists not already covered by the above."

https://twitter.com/TitaniaMcGrath/status/1131235867304046592

Sat, 2019-05-25 01:53

(Reply to #119) #120

LB Cultured Thought

NDPP wrote:

"I will support a second Brexit referendum if MPs guarantee that the following will NOT be eligible to vote: The elderly - the working class - Northerners and any other racists not already covered by the above."

https://twitter.com/TitaniaMcGrath/status/1131235867304046592

The best parody cuts WAY too close to home.

Sat, 2019-05-25 02:01

#121

NDPP

I agree LBCT...

Sat, 2019-05-25 11:43

#122

NDPP

"The collapse of British Steel reminds us why we must get on with Brexit. The government's intransigence has fuelled uncertainty. And EU state-aid rules mean we can't even bail it out. This Brexit halfway house is bad for jobs and business."

https://twitter.com/spikedonline/status/1132224886594768897

"Why should someone living in a rust-belt -- and I assure you much of England, much of Wales and much of Scotland are rust-belts. Why would someone living in a rust-belt vote for the status-quo? Delorsism is dead. The European Union is a club for the better and the betterment of the European elite. And the people of Britain have seen it.

And yesterday they spoke and what they said will be counted on Sunday. You're in for a rude awakening..." George Galloway

Sat, 2019-05-25 11:13

#123

NorthReport

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/24/british-steel-scandal-private-equity-unchecked

Sat, 2019-05-25 12:02

(Reply to #123) #124

voice of the damned

LB Cultured Thought wrote:

NDPP wrote:

"I will support a second Brexit referendum if MPs guarantee that the following will NOT be eligible to vote: The elderly - the working class - Northerners and any other racists not already covered by the above."

https://twitter.com/TitaniaMcGrath/status/1131235867304046592

The best parody cuts WAY too close to home.

That entire account is a right-winger doing a parody of a supposedly typical, narccissistic millenial leftist...

Speaking or writing in English is an act of colonial violence.

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Militant state control of citizens’ speech is a small price to pay to enforce a tolerant society.

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If the Tories don’t replace Theresa May with a queer person of colour, then we’ll know that they were fascists all along.

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Artistic merit should be assessed by calculating the percentages of how often characters speak according to race, gender and sexuality.

And so on and so forth. It's like what people on Free Dominion used to think all left-wingers were like, except the writer has a slightly better handle on how a twentysomething progressive artist might express herself.

Sat, 2019-05-25 12:15

(Reply to #124) #125

NorthReport

Bingo!

voice of the damned wrote:

LB Cultured Thought wrote:

NDPP wrote:

"I will support a second Brexit referendum if MPs guarantee that the following will NOT be eligible to vote: The elderly - the working class - Northerners and any other racists not already covered by the above."

https://twitter.com/TitaniaMcGrath/status/1131235867304046592

The best parody cuts WAY too close to home.

That entire account is a right-winger doing a parody of a supposedly typical, narccissistic millenial leftist...

Speaking or writing in English is an act of colonial violence.

***

Militant state control of citizens’ speech is a small price to pay to enforce a tolerant society.

***

If the Tories don’t replace Theresa May with a queer person of colour, then we’ll know that they were fascists all along.

***

Artistic merit should be assessed by calculating the percentages of how often characters speak according to race, gender and sexuality.

And so on and so forth. It's like what people on Free Dominion used to think all left-wingers were like, except the writer has a slightly better handle on how a twentysomething progressive artist might express herself.

Sun, 2019-05-26 17:50

#126

NDPP

'Some People in the UK Are Poorer Than Anywhere in Northern Europe'

https://twitter.com/brandonj_2001/status/1132602718449750016

"Is it any wonder the people in these disaffected areas voted to leave? The EU is not working for the poorest areas of our country. What we need is radical change from within, spurred on by radical external change, i.e. leaving the EU."

Sun, 2019-05-26 18:12

(Reply to #126) #127

JKR

NDPP wrote:

'Some People in the UK Are Poorer Than Anywhere in Northern Europe'

Maybe the people of northern European EU countries like Sweden, Denmark, Finland,Netherlands, Belgium, Austria, and Germany, benefit from being in the EU? And maybe it’s Brexiters like Farage and Boris who have been impoverishing the people of northern UK?

Wed, 2019-05-29 20:38

#128

NDPP

Brexit Party Declares Victory

https://youtu.be/q0hMuT77A0E

How does the UK plan to move forward following EU results? Brexit has left political process stricken. Will UK ask for yet another extension prior to Oct 31 drop deadline?All eyes now swivel to Peterborough by-election. - George Galloway analyzes the carnage.

Sat, 2023-12-30 13:26

#129

JKR

The consequences of Brexit that should have been obvious to a strong majority of people 5 years ago.

Brexit has completely failed for UK, say clear majority of Britons – poll

Only one in 10 feel leaving the EU has helped their finances, while just 9% say it has benefited the NHS, despite £350m a week pledge according to new poll

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/dec/30/britons-brexit-bad-uk-poll-eu-finances-nhs

A clear majority of the British public now believes Brexit has been bad for the UK economy, has driven up prices in shops, and has hampered government attempts to control immigration, according to a poll by Opinium to mark the third anniversary of the UK leaving the EU single market and customs union.

The survey of more than 2,000 UK voters also finds strikingly low numbers of people who believe that Brexit has benefited them or the country.

Just one in 10 believe leaving the EU has helped their personal financial situation, against 35% who say it has been bad for their finances, while just 9% say it has been good for the NHS, against 47% who say it has had a negative effect.

Ominously for prime minister Rishi Sunak, who backed Brexit and claimed it would be economically beneficial, only 7% of people think it has helped keep down prices in UK shops, against 63% who think Brexit has been a factor in fuelling inflation and the cost of living crisis.

The poll suggests that seven and a half years on from the referendum the British public now regards Brexit as a failure. Just 22% of voters believe it has been good for the UK in general.

poll chart

The Vote Leave campaign led by Boris Johnson and Michael Gove had promised that Brexit would boost the economy and trade, as well as bring back £350m a week into the NHS and allow the government to take back control of the UK’s borders.

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