Who’s proposing open borders?
Anyone who says "No one is illegal". Because the statement means that no one can be legally prevented from crossing the borders.
Are any political parties proposing open borders?
Maybe not, but Pondering is debating Kropotkin, who wrote in post 164 of this thread...
Great, then what the fuck are you on about with this racist woman and calling human beings illegal immigrants. No one is illegal. Language has power and yours is amplifying a nasty racist message.
No, VOTD, not even close. Here is what Pondering is saying over and over and over again:
The position on the left is 100% acceptance of all immigrants and refugees and it isn't open for discussion because anything else is racist.Not kropotkin. "THE LEFT". I have never heard of anyone, left, right, or butterscotch, who says anyone who wants to come to Canada any old time must be allowed in, no questions asked, refugee claimant or not. Refugee claimants - yes, they must be allowed a hearing. That's, like, what we call, international law. If their claim is denied, they can't stay. Other immigrants? Nope. If kropotkin actually advocates that, then he needs to give himself a serious shake. But I don't believe he advocates that for one second.
Pondering has created a straw left in order to perpetuate this idiotic "debate" about one putrid heckler last August. A "debate" that has nothing whatsoever to do with this thread.
Please don't fuel Pondering's flame. Her own spontaneous combustion is more than adequate in that regard. And I sincerely apologize for participating, however briefly, in this toxic thread drift.
Have you not heard the phrase "no one is illegal"? How do you think the average person interprets that phrase?