Jody Wilson-Raybould joins Israel lobby attacks on pro-Palestine advocacy

Tue, 2019-07-23 15:08

#2

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

Told you she wasn't worth her weight in dog shit. Seems I have been right about a lot lately. Still crying for this woman?

Tue, 2019-07-23 17:48

#3

Paladin1

Comparing an indigenous womans worth as a human being to dog shit.

Tue, 2019-07-23 18:19

#4

Unionist

It is such a breath of fresh air to have Svend Robinson back in the running! Until the NDP inner circle decides to ban him, that is.

Svend Robinson wrote:

Respectfully and strongly disagree, @Puglaas. Key author of this IHRA definition, Kenneth Stern, warns that it will "restrict academic freedom and punish political speech". Solidarity with Palestinians and fighting anti-Semitism both key. Just say 'no'. @VanCityCouncil @YVR_Hanson

His tweet is here.

Tue, 2019-07-23 18:22

(Reply to #4) #5

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

Paladin1 wrote:

Comparing an indigenous womans worth as a human being to dog shit.

lol...no. And even if I did just because she is Indigenous she can't be questioned,criticized,lampooned or personally attacked (without any racism on top of it)

What's with the politically correct act,Paladin? Go clean your guns.

Tue, 2019-07-23 20:39

#6

melovesproles

It is disappointing. If I'd known she had such disregard for Palestinians, I probably would have spent less time and energy defending her to Liberal-voting friends and relatives.

Tue, 2019-07-23 23:45

(Reply to #6) #7

Ken Burch

Paladin1 wrote:

Comparing an indigenous womans worth as a human being to dog shit.

The comment had nothing to do with her being indigenous and you know it. IT was that Wilson-Raybould is trying to silence the solidarity community for another oppressed people. There's no reason for the fight against antisemitism-a fight everyone on the left is part of-to make it impossible for people to speak out against the injustices the Israeli government inflicts on the people of Palestine.

Wed, 2019-07-24 05:51

#8

brookmere

JWR has direct ties to the Centre for Israel and Jewish Affarirs. You can see photos of her on their website. They are fairly progressive on Canadian domestic issues, and they don't openly support Bibi's worst policies and nominally support a two state solution, however they don't recognize that the root cause of the Israel-Palestinian conflict is the occupation and talk as though the two were equal parties. And CIJA supports IHRA.

Vancouver Granville is the Outremont of Western Canada and any politician who wants to get elected and stay elected is going to stay on good terms with its Jewish communities. But that tells us what JWR's priorities are.

https://cija.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/CIJA180821_Federal-issues-guide-2018-7.pdf

Fri, 2019-07-26 13:36

(Reply to #8) #9

Unionist

brookmere wrote:

Vancouver Granville is the Outremont of Western Canada and any politician who wants to get elected and stay elected is going to stay on good terms with its Jewish communities.

With all due respect, brookmere, we "Jewish communities" aren't a monolithic voting bloc. So please be careful about your implications.

Having said that, this just in. And Jody Wilson-Raybould, you and your pandering bullshit can take a long hike.

Independent Jewish Voices Canada wrote:

Vancouver City Council rejects misguided definition of antisemitism

July 26, 2019

VANCOUVER - Local members of Independent Jewish Voices (IJV) — in partnership with Palestinian groups and free speech and social justice advocates — worked to successfully convince a majority of Vancouver City Council members and the Mayor to question the adoption by the city of Vancouver of the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA) definition of antisemitism. The definition had been put before Council on July 23 in a motion by Councillor Sarah Kirby-Yung called “Combatting Antisemitism in Vancouver.”

An organized campaign of reaching out directly to Councillors, as well as public letter writing to the Mayor and Council, was crucial. This campaign convinced the majority of Councillors that the IHRA definition of antisemitism was problematic and opposed by many across the city, including many Jewish residents of Vancouver. Opponents of the motion emphasized that this definition of antisemitism would not in any way help the city fight this prejudice. Instead, it would encourage officials to label all criticism of the state of Israel as antisemitism, silencing support for Palestinian rights and freedoms.

The criticism of the IHRA definition by the B.C. Civil Liberties Association was also important in highlighting the threats to free speech and legitimate criticism of Israel, as was a letter by the Vancouver & District Labour Council, which asked City Council to amend the motion to exclude mention of the definition. In addition, the Councillors ultimately supported the argument that fighting racism in a multicultural city by singling out the fight against antisemitism alone was not the best approach.

Vancouver already has an Advisory Committee on Racial and Ethnocultural Equity, and the majority of Council voted to refer this motion to that Committee. The referral motion asked the Advisory Committee to provide recommendations to Council on how the City of Vancouver can increase action to combat all forms of racism and hatred, including antisemitism. No mention of the IHRA definition was included in this referral motion.

IJV Vancouver will continue to work with its partners in reaching out to the Advisory Committee to offer advice on the best approach to fighting antisemitism. IJV is committed to a strategy that defines antisemitism as a form of racism often linked to white supremacy, and combats it in solidarity with other antiracist struggles.

For media inquiries contact: Judith Muster, IJV Acting National Coordinator, [email protected], (647) 570-3924

How wonderful!

Fri, 2019-07-26 17:37

(Reply to #9) #10

WWWTT

Unionist wrote:

With all due respect, brookmere, we "Jewish communities" aren't a monolithic voting bloc. So please be careful about your implications.

I think brookmere is commenting on what a politician perceives as a monolithic voting block. An accurate one at that to considering the huge lack of support for the Palestinines at the political level in many of the western nations.

Fri, 2019-07-26 18:30

#11

kropotkin1951

It is not a monolithic voting block but I believe it is far more pro-Israel than Jewish communities in other places. The other problem is the peace activists from all religions are not as powerful as their war hawk brethren. I feel sorry for young Canadians that have to resist the siren song that is peddled to them. This is like a timeshare resort sales pitch on steroids.

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Fri, 2019-07-26 20:10

(Reply to #11) #12

brookmere

Unionist wrote:

brookmere wrote:

Vancouver Granville is the Outremont of Western Canada and any politician who wants to get elected and stay elected is going to stay on good terms with its Jewish communities.
With all due respect, brookmere, we "Jewish communities" aren't a monolithic voting bloc. So please be careful about your implications.

I was talking specifically about Vancouver Granville. As kropotkin noted and I implied, its Jewish communities are a lot more conservative than you might find elsewhere. Even the ostensibly liberal communities represented by CIJA are uncritical of Israeli policies.

Anyway, thanks for the news from Vancouver.

Fri, 2019-07-26 22:05

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laine lowe laine lowe's picture

So grateful IJV exists and I look forward to their updates and news in my inbox to help navigate all these assaults on the left for supporting the human rights of Palestinians.

Just like all women leaders or candidates are not necessarily representing progressive change or worthy of support, not all Indigenous leaders or candidates deserve an automatic pass on their record of unprogressive views and actions. This is just another example of Jody Wison-Raybould's true stripes - she is not a left-leaning trailblazer, she is probably on the extreme right of the Liberal spectrum - possibly more conservative in her views than Paul Martin or Michael Ignatieff.

Fri, 2019-07-26 22:01

#14

Ken Burch

Thanks to IJV for their involvement in this, and for all else that they do.

Fri, 2019-07-26 23:58

#15

NDPP

I agree. They are a courageous, effective and potent minority within a powerful and influential community unfortunately still supportive of Israel and its ever-growing influence in Canada. I wish there were more like IJV. Every year I stand with their members and others who never number more than 10% of the blue sea of flagwavers and every Canadian politician of significance in Toronto who 'Walk With Israel', [This year it was 30,000 marching FOR and 300 protesting AGAINST] and see the resources, media, money and power backing Israel I appreciate their efforts more and more. Especially of those who talk plainly of what they are up against. All the more reason not to minimize or deny the strong base of support here for the Apartheid enemy.

Sat, 2019-07-27 12:51

#16

Misfit

What happened to Jewish Voices for Peace?

Sat, 2019-07-27 17:17

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laine lowe laine lowe's picture

I think Jewish Voices for Peace still exists but it's based in the US.

Sat, 2019-07-27 17:44

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laine lowe laine lowe's picture

Jody Wilson-Raybould was in the news again, tandentially. The results of a 3rd party judicial review of the Hassan Diab extradition case were announced yesterday. Diab's lawyer Donald Bayne calls it a whitewash that exonerates the federal Department of Justice's actions, taken under Stephen Harper's tenure.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/hassan-diab-extradition-france-1.5226033

Segal's mandate fell short of the judge-led public inquiry — with full subpoena power and cross-examination of witnesses — that Diab and his supporters had been demanding.

So Diab boycotted this review, arguing the scope was too narrow and appeared to be nothing more than a "concerted damage-control effort."

Diab's objections are spelled out in a letter written by Bayne and sent to Segal in July of last year.

"These terms of reference are a disservice to Dr. Diab and to all the suffering he and his family have been put through," Bayne wrote in the letter, which was also sent to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and then-justice minister Jody Wilson-Raybould.

Segal's conclusion that the Department of Justice did nothing improper in Diab's case seems to contradict the views of the prime minister, who criticized the outcome.

Sat, 2019-07-27 21:32

#19

Misfit

I do know that 25 years ago JVP was active on Canada. I signed a petition put out by the JVP in Toronto to stop the violence against the Palestinians.

Sat, 2019-07-27 21:43

(Reply to #19) #20

Unionist

Misfit wrote:

I do know that 25 years ago JVP was active on Canada. I signed a petition put out by the JVP in Toronto to stop the violence against the Palestinians.

I think you're mistaken. JVP was founded in 1996 (23 years ago) and never had any Canadian section, to the best of my memory. They certainly don't have any now.

Sun, 2019-07-28 01:50

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laine lowe laine lowe's picture

They are active on Facebook and I was certainly on and continue to be on the JVP mailing list. Kind of like CodePink - a US based group but I still get email updates.

Sun, 2019-07-28 12:34

#22

Misfit

Ok. Then it wasn’t JVP. I thought it was. Thanks people.

Sun, 2019-07-28 13:06

#23

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

'I'm a principled strong woman' Says the oppurtunist selling a book. She is a fraud and she has put our country in grave danger. To hell with her.

Tue, 2019-07-30 17:45

(Reply to #23) #24

Paladin1

Ken Burch wrote:

Paladin1 wrote:

Comparing an indigenous womans worth as a human being to dog shit.

The comment had nothing to do with her being indigenous and you know it.

Figured indigenous women in Canada have enough problems with settlers dehumanizing them that it doesn't need to be continued on a progressive place.