Ken Burch wrote:
The U.S. didn't invent the anti-Mubarak protests. They may have tried to subvert them, but it wasn't a victory for American imperialism for a pro-American dictator to be overthrown.
Are you really saying the Left should have wanted the existing Egyptian military regime to have stayed in power? Or should be cheering that that regime was restored?
They replaced him with another pro-American dictator so as far as Egyptians are concerned it was a wash and certainly not worth dying for.
Of course I do not wish that for the Egyptian people. I wish for them like I do for all nations on this planet, I want the citizens of the brutal empire to reign in their nasty imperial machine. After all you do live in a democracy right? If the US is a democracy then the American people are responsible for all the millions of deaths around the globe from the conflict that their regime has produced.
Stop talking about other people's governments and do something about your own. Personally I think that the US is not a democracy which is why I find the hypocrisy of regime change to get a "democracy" like the US's is beyond the pale.
I have been an activist against the injustices done by the government for decades now. I've never given the American regime a pass.
And it's absurd to argue that people in the States have no right to question what any other regime does until we have acheived the revolution ourselves. By that logic, nobody in Canada has any right to be anti-authoritarian either.
I have condemned and protested and organized against American foreign domestic policiess, in my life, just as much, if not far MORE so, than I have against dictatorial and unjustly brutal actions by other states.
Why should I be obligated to defend what the Market Stalinists in the name of "internal security" and "unification" just to prove I'm an anti-imperialist?
Why should I have to give up my humanity and be cool with the real possibility that the PLA will storm Hong Kong-when it has no reason to do so-storm the damn airport-again, when it has no reason to do so-once again, as always, never show any restraint or mercy once it starts killing, and then impose the same pointlessly absurd censorship and restrictions on independent thought it imposed on the whole of the PRC after 1989?
And why should I see the protests as nothing but a US-Western plot to destroy Chinese independence when every major Western leader, just as in 1989, has made it clear that they don't want Hong Kong, let alone the PRC, to move towards democracy, that they want another 1989-style crackdown and the furthern entrenchment of Market Stalinism?
The West doesn't want to overthrow the Chinese government, it wants to ENTRENCH it. What Beijing does is exactly what western capitalism wants done to China.
As to Egypt-yes, the military retook power after the Tahrir Square protests. But that doesn't mean the protests there weren't legitimate and nothing would be better in that country if the people of Egypt hadn't tried to bring down the police state.
I oppose capitalism AND Stalinism.
I oppose dictatorship and support liberation.
And I've learned that you can't build anything remotely resembling socialism from above.
What happened in the Warsaw Pact countries in 1989 proved that, once and for all.
Why would anyone, after 1989, still defend any aspect of the actually existing Stalinist-Maoist tradition?
What other choice is there but to reject all that and move on to something else?
That's where I'm coming from.
Nothing in that equates to being a lackey for the capitalist running dogs.
And I will continue to do so.
My notion of the Left means rejecting the idea that ANY regime needs to use repressive methods-or that any regime like the one in Beijing could be considered anti-imperialist.
There is no ultimate gain for any left values to back regimes like that. There's no chance that the Party will ever allow the creation of a socialist model with egalitarian and humane values.
I despise what the US has done to the world...but history has proven that the "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" theory simply doesn't work for the Left.