Kropotnik wrote:
Do you think that if the UK for instance was to administer the territory again that a different ruling elite would take over or do you actually believe that the people of Hong Kong would elect a socialist government? I have met many Hong Kong ex-pats and not one of them was a socialist. I met socialists from mainland China and Taiwan but none from Hong Kong.
WWWTT wrote:
Lots of supporters of the Communist Party of China in Hong Kong!
Okay, now I'm more confused then ever.
I guess its hard to keep up sometimes. I have never been to Hong Kong but have met many business people from Hong Kong in Richmond, as Swallow noted, they were all focused capitalists. I also met many people from mainland China and Taiwan in Burnaby working on NDP campaigns and they were socialists.
WWWTT has been to Hong Kong and has met more citizens of that city than I have. Most Hong Kong citizens were not the rich capitalists we sold Canadian passports to in the '90's. I find it telling that Hong Kong's wealth disparity is so high compared to the mainland but not surprising given the high level of avarice displayed by those business people.
I support the people of Hong Kong going into the streets and marching and banging pots and carrying signs. I do not support violence for violence sake. Here is an article that shows that like in Canada if you get a permit your chances of getting tear gassed drop dramatically. The problem that this movement is having is what is its goal. The original extradition trigger is gone and the people of Hong Kong get to vote in elections except for Governor. Like in Taiwan the body politic is split between those who want to be independent of China and parties that want close ties to the mainland. It will be interesting to see if this movement gets leaders who can take it on a path that makes sense.
In the end though the people of Hong Kong will get as much control over their fate from the Chinese central government as the Greek people got from the Troika when they defied the ruling elite in a "democracy".
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3023231/thousands-t...
VOTD:
1) Nobody on this board is calling for the restoration of Crown Colony status for Hong Kong.
2) While spelling flames are normally not cool on this board, and while Kropotkin and I are in disagreement on this situation, could you STOP spelling Kropotkin's name as "Kropotnik"? I'm bringing it up because it looks like you're doing that on purpose to bait Kropotkin, and since the misspelling your doing there comes close to namecalling, I'm asking you, simply as another Babbler, to be better than that. There's no reason for any of us to communicate like second-graders on the school bus with each other.