NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh Continues To Capitalize On Party’s Momentum During Last Week Of The Campaign

Tue, 2019-10-22 00:24

Ken Burch

It turned out to be the Singh non-surge. Other than Boulerice hanging on and Harris taking St. John's East, there's nothing but tragedy tonight for the NDP.

There not going to get anything that matters out of Trudeau out of 24 seats, and clearly Singh has failed after all.

There was no excuse for getting wiped out in Toronto.

There was no excuse for getting wiped out in Saskatchewan.

Every crowd Singh had was a meaningless illusion.

It collapsed into nothing.

Now we're back to wondering whether the NDP can survive at all.

I'm so sorry for everyone who worked so bloody hard for the party tonight. You all did your best.

In the end, Mulcair had his revenge after all.

Now what?

Tue, 2019-10-22 00:11

#103

josh

They saved the furniture. But probably only 6 seats in Ontario and maybe only 1 seat in Quebec won't cut it.

Tue, 2019-10-22 00:15

(Reply to #103) #104

robbie_dee

Ken Burch wrote:

It turned out to be the Singh non-surge. Other than Boulerice hanging on that Harris taking St. John's East, there's nothing but tragedy tonight for the NDP.

I'm also pretty excited about Mumilaaq Qaqqaq, if she manages to hang on, as well as a few other candidates of indigenous descent. But otherwise completely with your post.

Tue, 2019-10-22 00:15

(Reply to #104) #105

robbie_dee

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Tue, 2019-10-22 03:36

#106

Misfit

Wtf Saskatchewan! Even crappy Alberts has more NDP representation than them. What a bunch of losers!!!

Tue, 2019-10-22 06:52

#107

nicky

The results are clearly disappointing. But there are a few faint silver threads.

Trudeau is bleeding. 33.1 %. Significantly less than the Cons. Clinging to power through a fluke of the FPTP system

No majority so a greater chance he will have to keep some of his more progressive promises.

Singh has emerged with more good Will and positive ratings than the other leaders.

The NDP lost about 4% in the home stretch to strategic voting.

the NDP more than fended off what seemed like an existential threat in the early stages from the Greens.

Doug Ford is on the ropes. He is the major reason the Liberals over-performed in Ontario.

Tue, 2019-10-22 07:45

#108

Ciabatta2

Winning the popular vote is a good news story for the Conservatives and will feed their self-pitying injustice. The Green Party doubling it's share and adding Frederiction will be viewed positively. Of course, the Bloc should rightfully be ecstatic.

The Liberals won't be happy - who would have predicted, back in 2015, that Trudeau would be held to a minority?

I don't see how this result is good for the NDP. Nothing in Saskatchewan. All but wiped out in Quebec. Almost non-existent in Ontario in the Maritimes. Supplanted as the non-Con vote in Green ridings and Robinson and Zarillo couldn't bring it over the line in BC. Not single seat in Toronto. Brutal.

It looks like the Liberal play to pressure Singh into running in BC worked well and prevented any 905 inroads.

Tue, 2019-10-22 07:53

(Reply to #108) #109

robbie_dee

Ciabatta2 wrote:

Winning the popular vote is a good news story for the Conservatives and will feed their self-pitying injustice.

Maybe this will convince them to support proportional representation?

Tue, 2019-10-22 07:54

#110

josh

The Liberals will be happy enough. They did 10 to 20 sears better than most of the predictions.

Tue, 2019-10-22 08:01

#111

Pondering

Seriously Ken? Elections are about more than just the leader and it seems Singh was more popular than the NDP. Racism and fear of Conservatives held him back.

I agree the NDP will likely have to change leaders yet again but they better take it slow and it better be a resignation not a vote.

Tue, 2019-10-22 09:16

(Reply to #111) #112

cco

robbie_dee wrote:

Ciabatta2 wrote:

Winning the popular vote is a good news story for the Conservatives and will feed their self-pitying injustice.
Maybe this will convince them to support proportional representation?

Not a chance. Tories would rather take a chance on getting a majority with 39% than be doomed to trying to assemble coalitions.

Tue, 2019-10-22 10:52

(Reply to #112) #113

voice of the damned

Misfit wrote:

Wtf Saskatchewan! Even crappy Alberts has more NDP representation than them. What a bunch of losers!!!

I'd be curious to know which province saw a better NDP showing in the popular vote. Wikipedia doesn't break their provinical results down into rankings.

Tue, 2019-10-22 11:55

#114

josh

Alberta had the higher number, but Saskatchewan had almost double the percentage of the vote.

Tue, 2019-10-22 12:52

(Reply to #114) #115

voice of the damned

josh wrote:

Alberta had the higher number, but Saskatchewan had almost double the percentage of the vote.

So you mean Alberta had more NDP voters in terms of absolute numbers, but Saskatchwan had more New Democrats in terms of a greater percentage of the vote?

If so, that's kinda what I was guessing it would be like, given the party's deeper roots in Saskatchewan.

Tue, 2019-10-22 16:09

(Reply to #115) #116

Ken Burch

Pondering wrote:

Seriously Ken? Elections are about more than just the leader and it seems Singh was more popular than the NDP. Racism and fear of Conservatives held him back.

I agree the NDP will likely have to change leaders yet again but they better take it slow and it better be a resignation not a vote.

If there is a transition in leaders, it should happen within the next year-and-a-half, and that includes holding the actual leadership election process within the next two years. The 2015-2019 experience proves that delaying the transition to within 2 years or less of the next election simply doesn't leave enough time for a new leader to establish her or himself in the job.

If Singh does stay on for the at least interim future, he needs to start in immediately doing the things he never addressed before the election-establishing a new fundraising mechanism that refills the party's treasury as much as possible, to democratize the party's decision-making process, and to beginning the candidate-vetting process and reforming it so it is no longer used to block potentially strong candidates for being too radical, as was clearly done to Sid Ryan and others.

Tue, 2019-10-22 16:19

#117

NDPP

And to stop crushing resistance to BDS and Apartheid Israel as he did at the party's last convention.

Tue, 2019-10-22 18:40

(Reply to #117) #118

Aristotleded24

Ken Burch wrote:
It turned out to be the Singh non-surge. Other than Boulerice hanging on and Harris taking St. John's East, there's nothing but tragedy tonight for the NDP.

Leah Gazan took Winnipeg Centre for the NDP from the Liberals. Across the river, Daniel Blaikie held Elmwood for the NDP against the former Conservative MP.

Tue, 2019-10-22 18:54

(Reply to #118) #119

knownothing knownothing's picture

Ken Burch wrote:

Pondering wrote:

Seriously Ken? Elections are about more than just the leader and it seems Singh was more popular than the NDP. Racism and fear of Conservatives held him back.

I agree the NDP will likely have to change leaders yet again but they better take it slow and it better be a resignation not a vote.

If there is a transition in leaders, it should happen within the next year-and-a-half, and that includes holding the actual leadership election process within the next two years. The 2015-2019 experience proves that delaying the transition to within 2 years or less of the next election simply doesn't leave enough time for a new leader to establish her or himself in the job.

If Singh does stay on for the at least interim future, he needs to start in immediately doing the things he never addressed before the election-establishing a new fundraising mechanism that refills the party's treasury as much as possible, to democratize the party's decision-making process, and to beginning the candidate-vetting process and reforming it so it is no longer used to block potentially strong candidates for being too radical, as was clearly done to Sid Ryan and others.

Singh isn't going anywhere. We would be crazy to get a new leader.

Tue, 2019-10-22 18:56

(Reply to #119) #120

Debater

Aristotleded24 wrote:

Ken Burch wrote:
It turned out to be the Singh non-surge. Other than Boulerice hanging on and Harris taking St. John's East, there's nothing but tragedy tonight for the NDP.

Leah Gazan took Winnipeg Centre for the NDP from the Liberals. Across the river, Daniel Blaikie held Elmwood for the NDP against the former Conservative MP.

Yes, the NDP did better than expected in Elmwood-Transcona. Larger win over the Cons than last time. The Libs placed a strong 3rd there in 2015, and I think some of that vote went to the NDP and helped them hold off the former Con MP. The recent provincial election results in the area may also have helped.

Tue, 2019-10-22 21:21

#121

laine lowe laine lowe's picture

Given what happened in Sask and Alberta, I was super pleased with the results in Manitoba. Same with Nunavut – Mumilaaq Qaqqaq victory is a real feather in the NDP's cap.

Tue, 2019-10-22 22:59

#122

Debater

Of the 3 Northern ridings, Nunavut was the one that was most likely to be a surprise. With no incumbent MP after Hunter Tootoo decided not to run again, and with the former Con MP attempting a comeback, there was an opening for the NDP this time.

NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh Continues To Capitalize On Party’s Momentum During Last Week Of The Campaign

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