LMAO Gee I thought voter suppression was an ingrained part of the US electoral system. Its now going to be Putin the evil masterminds fault. US voter suppression started before he was even born.
Kremlingate part 2
Fri, 2019-10-04 12:53
#452
Tue, 2019-10-08 13:14
#453
The Senate Intelligence Committee concluded that the Russian government used social media in the 2016 election to help President Trump secure victory and hurt the Hillary Clinton campaign, the panel said in an 85-page report released on Tuesday.
Tue, 2019-10-08 23:13
#454
Here They Go Again: Senate Reheats 'Russian Meddling' Claims, Using Assertions as Evidence
"The Senate Intelligence Committee's final report on 'Russian Interference' in the 2016 US presidential election is short on evidence and long on reheated assertions and innuendo from 'experts' exposed as actual election meddlers. There is little new in the 85-page, partially redacted document released on Tuesday, that has not been made public by the committee previously - including the accusations that 'Russia' focused on stoking anger and resentment among African Americans, for example..."
'Damn Russia stirring up the blacks again!' More naught but simple shit still fervently clung to by msm gullibles, Russophrenics and TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) sufferers everywhere. Shhh. It's not polite to laugh.
Wed, 2019-10-09 10:42
#455
So it has now been established that Russia hacked the DNC and Clinton's campaign manager, and disseminated the information. In an effort to elect Trump. And engaged in an online disinformation campaign. In an effort to elect Trump.
We uncorked a tiny bottle of champagne … took one gulp each and looked into each other’s eyes …. We uttered almost in unison: ‘We made America great."
https://secondnexus.com/news/senate-intelligence-committee-russia-toast/
Wed, 2019-10-09 13:19
#456
Drivel and nothing-burgers. No such thing was 'established' and can't ever be because it never happened. What was established was that it was a leak not a hack. Which is why the DNC refused to give up the servers to the FBI. And why NSA can't produce the evidence either.
Wed, 2019-10-09 13:43
#457
Both have been established beyond a doubt. Which is what Muller, through his indictments and report, concluded.
Wed, 2019-10-09 13:56
#458
Both have been established beyond a doubt. Which is what Muller, through his indictments and report, concluded.
So you say, josh, but anything that disagrees with the opinions of NDPP and Aaron Mate is obviously Fake News, courtesy of the Deep State. Just ask Bill Binney next time he appears on Info Wars to help Alex Jones sell dietary supplements.
Thu, 2019-10-10 11:57
#459
'Top Secret' Russian Unit That 'Destabilizes Europe' is a Well Known Small Arms Training Base
"Two days ago the New York Times published a sensational story about alleged Russian fiendishness. It was headlined Russian Unit Seeks to Destabilize Europe Security Officials Say...How a training unit with a well-known commander, which existed for more than 50 years and has pictures of its premises publicized can be 'top secret' is a mystery. But what is understandable is that some author writes 2,000 words of such nonsense. It obviously pays well."
NYT: manufacturing stupid Russophobe conspiracy theorists since who knows when...?
Fri, 2019-10-11 13:55
#460
'This is the Enduring Sickness of Russiagate'
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1182309703562518528
"Amazing: this new Fox poll shows the groups that most trust the CIA - THE CIA! - are liberals, Democrats & Clinton voters. 77% Of Dems trust the CIA; only 22% don't. 64% of liberals trust CIA; 22% don't. This is the enduring sickness of Russiagate/MSNBC."
The CIA Takeover of the Democratic Party
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/03/13/pers-m13.html
Fri, 2019-10-11 14:50
#461
Both have been established beyond a doubt. Which is what Muller, through his indictments and report, concluded.
So you say, josh, but anything that disagrees with the opinions of NDPP and Aaron Mate is obviously Fake News, courtesy of the Deep State. Just ask Bill Binney next time he appears on Info Wars to help Alex Jones sell dietary supplements.
No, despite the fear-mongering claims of US security state agencies and its media and partisan promoters, that has not been established.
Some Russian internet interference is probable, but there is meager evidence of any massive funding or sophistication. The known evidence suggests that the commerical clickbait farm, the Internet Research Agency spawned reems of illiterate, for profit, click-through ads across the political and non-political spectrum which were more prevalant after the election.
When Mueller (GW Bush's FBI head and promoter of the Iraq WMD lie) indicted the sleezy Russian Internet Research Agency click-bait farm, he was shocked when their lawyers actually showed up for pre-trial--Mueller then asked for a delay on his own indictment which the judge denied, and there the case died. Indicting GRU agents later was much safer move for Mueller from court scrutiny since foreign agents obviously aren't going to show up in an adversary regime's court.
Comparing the Israeli and Saudi influence, along with domestic voter suppression, Republican gerrymandering, corrupt electorial college, dirty tricks and limitless corporate money, any Russian interference in the supposedly pristine US electorial circus is pretty insignificant. Nevertheless, yet it gets virtually all the focus and hysterical attention in western media of any threat to what is laughingly called democracy in the US.
And should one compare it to active US interventions in the politics of other countries, including coups and invasions, the whole western Russiagate media saturation and fear-mongering is, as Chomsky said, "a joke".
Compare the western media Russiagate coverage with coverage of US foreign interventions (let alone "influence") which are ignored, denied, or more often applauded by the same state-servile MSM that has always thrived on the xenophobic "foreign threat" of designated enemies for imperial action and corporate profit.
Yet, according to many who now self-identify as progressive, the uninterrupted long history of deception by these agencies and their mouthpieces has now become an unquestioned source of truth when they target those they don't like. Those who point out the fundemental untrustworthy nature and history of these agencies and their messaging are now called "conspiracy theorists" by would-be progressives:
Democrats and Liberals Trust the CIA More Than Republicans
Dave DeCamp Posted onOctober 11, 2019
https://www.antiwar.com/blog/2019/10/11/democrats-and-liberals-trust-the...
Fri, 2019-10-11 15:13
#462
'This is the Enduring Sickness of Russiagate'
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1182309703562518528
"Amazing: this new Fox poll shows the groups that most trust the CIA - THE CIA! - are liberals, Democrats & Clinton voters. 77% Of Dems trust the CIA; only 22% don't. 64% of liberals trust CIA; 22% don't. This is the enduring sickness of Russiagate/MSNBC."
The CIA Takeover of the Democratic Party
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/03/13/pers-m13.html
No it’s the result of Russia’s interference in the 2016 election to defeat the Democrat and elect a right-wing Republican. You reap what you sow.
Fri, 2019-10-11 15:37
#463
To contrarianna, I have posted many times, and at length about the details of this affair, and I have no desire to do so again, but here are a few bullet points
- I agree that the U.S. is far ahead of all other contenders when it comes to interfering in elections or sponsoring coups in other countries.
- I agree that the CIA and the entire intelligence establishment of the U.S. or any other country is not to be trusted. They are the worst of the worst.
- I agree that corporate influence and voter suppression have a much greater effect on U.S. elections than anything the Russians might do.
- I think it is a well-established fact that Russian intel sponsored agents successfully spearphished John Podesta, and got access to his gmail account, the contents of which they then publicized.
- I think it is very likely that Russian intel sponsored agents hacked the DNC server, as described in the Feb/18 Mueller indictments. Several well respected computer forensics firms have seen the logs, and all agreed with the original conclusion by Crowdstrike.
- The Democrats I support have been busy since 2016 running primaries against incumbent Dems in congress. As AOC and her Justice Democrat colleagues show, they have had some success by concentrating on issues, and not whining about Russian interference. Same goes for Bernie Sanders' presidential campaign.
Fri, 2019-10-11 16:19
#464
Thanks Michael, good summary. I see the whole thing as a red herring. Red herrings to be effective at any level must have major aspects that are the truth, otherwise people don't take the bait. I think it is the height of irony for US imperialist of all political stripes to be complaining about interference in their facade of a democracy.
Sat, 2019-10-19 06:25
#465
Hillary Clinton Slanders Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard, Green Party Candidate Jill Stein as Russian Spies
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/10/19/clin-o19.html
"Hillary Clinton, the widely despised former Democratic Party presidential candidate has slandered two of her political opponents - Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard and 2016 Green Party presidential candidate Dr Jill Stein - as traitors and Russian spies.
Clinton's attack on Gabbard and Stein makes clear once again that the Democrats' assertions of 'Russian meddling' in the 2016 election were primarily aimed not at Trump, but at the anti-war and anti-capitalist sentiments that led millions of people to refuse to vote for her in 2016. They underscore how the Democrats have appropriated the McCarthyite tactics historically associated primarily with the Republican right..."
And unfortunately, shamefully, emulated now also by some on the 'progressive' Canadian left...
Sat, 2019-10-19 09:32
#466
Widely despised? 65 million voters would disagree. And while I'm not a fan of hers, and I think her remarks are politically stupid, this is all about Russian interference in 2016 to defeat her and elect Trump.
Sat, 2019-10-19 09:33
#467
Sat, 2019-10-19 14:59
#468
Sat, 2019-10-19 15:49
#469
My Bro Modi: President Obama's Unlikely Friendship With A Right-Wing Hindu
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bro-modi-president-obamas-friendship-win...
Sat, 2019-10-19 16:10
#470
Sat, 2019-10-19 16:56
#471
Russophobia At Democratic Party Debate
https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/10/18/russophobia-at-democratic-party-...
"...Russophobia reflects in part an attempt by the corporatists to try and channel popular enmity away from the domestic plutocrats who have rigged the American political economy in their favor, and onto a phantom foreign enemy whose existence can be used to justify large-scale military expenditures...The one true progressive in the party willing to repudiate the dominant Russophobia is Tulsi Gabbard."
Sun, 2019-10-20 11:37
#472
'Russian Asset' is a Meaningless Noise War Pigs Make With Their Face Holes
"Both Tulsi Gabbard and the Green Party of the United States have issued scorching rebukes of Hillary Clinton for baseless accusations the former Secretary of State made during a recent interview claiming that both Gabbard and former Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein are aligned with the Russian government.
The 'Russian asset' smear has given the establishment narrative managers the ability to make incredibly inflammatory and scandalous accusations about anyone who opposes the US establishment foreign policy consensus, without ever having to back this up with facts. Establishment narrative managers are getting more and more aggressive with the psychological bullying tactics they are using against political dissidents..."
Sun, 2019-10-20 13:21
#473
Stein Says Clinton Promoting 'Unhinged Conspiracy Theory'
"Former Green Party candidate Jill Stein responded to former Democrat presidential nominee Hillary Clinton's accusation that she was a 'Russian asset."
Fri, 2019-10-25 05:39
#474
Justice Department officials have shifted an administrative review of the Russia investigation closely overseen by Attorney General William P. Barr to a criminal inquiry, according to two people familiar with the matter. The move gives the prosecutor running it, John H. Durham, the power to subpoena for witness testimony and documents, to convene a grand jury and to file criminal charges.
Can't wait till 2021 and the criminal investigation into Barr's criminal investigation.
Fri, 2019-10-25 06:05
#475
The Jimmy Dore Show
"Jill Stein smashes Hillary & defends Julian Assange."
Sun, 2019-10-27 07:52
#476
'My Hair Was Proof of Guilt': Maria Butina Talks of her Arrest, the NRA and Senate Testimony (and vid)
"Accused of spying and jailed in the US, Russian student and gun rights activist Maria Butina has told RT about her ordeal. 'They just took some Hollywood cliches and made me the scapegoat,' she said. 'I believe that the American people should really start paying attention to what is happening in their country...And especially now with all these petty games the Republicans and Democrats are playing for power. The establishment has nothing to do with people or with democracy. The politicians are just fighting for power and that's why they need a foreign threat. So they picked Russia and now Russia is blamed for everything..."
Fri, 2019-11-01 12:05
#477
Did Stone, an early Trump confidant and booster, know what documents WikiLeaks had and when it would release them? The government claims he tipped off the campaign, and Mueller’s report refers numerous times to WikiLeaks or Trump’s interest in its stolen cache. Mueller says Trump and campaign advisers “privately sought information” about further releases.
Sun, 2019-11-03 10:54
#478
Cable News in Glare of its Own Russiagate Gaslight
https://consortiumnews.com/2019/11/01/cable-news-in-glare-of-its-own-rus...
"It was interesting to watch the cable news divas go incandescent under the glare of their own gaslight last week when they received the unpleasant news that the Barr & Durham 'review' of Russiagate had been officially upgraded to a 'criminal investigation'. 'They have this theory,' Maddow said, 'that maybe Russia didn't interfere in the election."
Time to make more popcorn, this show never ends.
Tue, 2019-11-12 11:50
#479
President Trump’s former deputy campaign manager, Rick Gates, told a jury that Roger Stone was giving the campaign updates on WikiLeaks’ plans to release damaging emails stolen from the DNC and Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, The Hill reports.
Gates said Stone was telling the campaign about WikiLeaks’ plans as early as April 2016, months before the DNC had announced it was hacked.
Tue, 2019-11-12 17:39
#480
American prosecutors expanded an election-fraud caseagainst 13 Russians that was first brought by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, adding details to flesh out how the defendants allegedly defrauded the U.S. by interfering in the 2016 U.S. presidential race.
The superseding indictment is the latest signal that U.S. prosecutors are aggressively pursuing matters set in motion by Mueller’s investigation of Russian election interference -- even as the Justice Department is also conducting a politically charged investigation of the probe’s origins.
Fri, 2019-11-15 12:02
#481
Roger J. Stone Jr., a former aide and longtime friend of President Trump, was found guilty on Friday of obstructing a congressional investigation into Russia’s interference in the 2016 election in what prosecutors said was an effort to protect Mr. Trump.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/15/us/politics/roger-stone-trial-guilty.html
Fri, 2019-11-22 12:11
#482
This morning, Trump gave an interview to Fox & Friends repeating the very theory Republicans so angrily denied he has ever promoted. As the friendly hosts looked on apprehensively, Trump began unspooling a wild theory he has mentioned before, and invoked on his phone call to Ukrainian president Zelensky. The theory posits that Ukrainians hacked Democratic emails, framed Russia, and kept the server they hacked to hide their crime. It fixates on the role of CrowdStrike, a cybersecurity firm that helped the FBI solve the crime.
Fri, 2019-11-22 21:36
#483
Yes, but this whole Russiagate/Ukraine impeachment fiasco is patently idiotic no matter how many oceans of ink and hours of mind-numbing propaganda programs the msm uses to try and sell it. Chomsky was right. 'The whole thing is a joke!' Especially your description of the role of Democratic Party-hired contractor Crowdstrike....ROTFL.
Sat, 2019-11-23 03:20
#484
Yes, but this whole Russiagate/Ukraine impeachment fiasco is patently idiotic no matter how many oceans of ink and hours of mind-numbing propaganda programs the msm uses to try and sell it. Chomsky was right. 'The whole thing is a joke!' Especially your description of the role of Democratic Party-hired contractor Crowdstrike....ROTFL.
House Republicans’ campaign arm is still relying on CrowdStrike to protect its sensitive data, even as the cybersecurity firm has become embroiled in a bizarre conspiracy theory promoted by President Trump and his GOP allies.
The California company, which Trump and some House Republicans have accused without evidence of conspiring with Democrats in the 2016 election, is still helping the National Republican Congressional Committee protect its networks. The committee has no immediate plans to change vendors, a person familiar with the matter told me.
Sat, 2019-11-23 13:50
#485
FBI Says the Democratic Party Wouldn't Let Agents See the Hacked Email Servers
https://www.wired.com/2017/01/fbi-says-democratic-party-wouldnt-let-agen...
"The DNC told Buzzfeed on Wednesday that neither the FBI nor any other intelligence agency ever did an independent assessment of the organization's breached servers. Instead, they alleged, the FBI relied exclusively on information from private digital forensics company Crowdstrike..."
Sat, 2019-11-30 09:41
#486
Trump’s own investigators couldn’t find any deep-state conspiracy in Russia probe.
President Donald Trump and his Justice Department appointed their own investigator and prosecutor to look into Robert Mueller’s team as well as the FBI agents that dealt with the early days of the Russia investigation. Not surprisingly, after extensive international travel, interviews with high-level foreign officials and a desperate need to verify a conspiracy, nothing could be found.
The New York Times revealed the Trump humiliation Friday, saying that the final report will “debunk a series of conspiracy theories and insinuations about the F.B.I. that Mr. Trump and his allies have put forward over the past two years, the people said, though they cautioned that the report is not complete. The New York Times has not reviewed the draft, which could contain other significant findings.”
Sun, 2019-12-01 12:47
#487
John Kiriakou: The Press Should Not Be Shielding FBI Malfeasance
https://consortiumnews.com/2019/11/27/john-kiriakou-the-press-should-not...
"...Why is the mainstream media shielding FBI malfeasance? For FBI crimes? Because the victim is the Trump campaign, and we're not supposed to like the Trump campaign. It's all about Russia, Russia, Russia, remember? If the evidence doesn't show that you just change the evidence..."
Tue, 2019-12-03 08:17
#488
Attorney General William Barr is already breaking with a point in the Justice Department Inspector General’s upcoming report that would undermine President Donald Trump’s constant protestations that the probe into his 2016 campaign was a “witch hunt.”
According to the Washington Post, IG Michael Horowitz plans to release his report next week which asserts that the FBI did have enough information to open an investigation into members of the Trump campaign in 2016.
The report also concludes that the FBI did not open the investigation based on the Steele Dossier or leaked information from the CIA, and that the probe did not have its roots in anti-Trump bias at the bureau.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/barr-inspector-general-trump-campaign
Mon, 2019-12-09 16:00
#489
Internal Justice watchdog finds that Russia probe was justified, not biased against Trump
Tue, 2019-12-10 17:57
#490
The Jimmy Dore Show
"FBI lied to FISA court in Russiagate investigation."
Tue, 2019-12-17 12:42
#491
The Jimmy Dore Show
"Chris Wallace destroys Jim Comey's lies about FBI."
Tue, 2019-12-17 13:54
#492
The Horowitz report is hardly a vindication for Democrats, - as is typical for American politics there is enough ambiguity to allow the argument to continue indefinitely. Republicans will hype the FISA abuses and the erroneous reporting during the campaign and through 2018. Democrats will hype the finding of no bias as proof there was no witchhunt. No members of either team will be tempted to change sides, and life will continue as it does. My hope is that at minimum, politically disengaged Americans increase their distrust and loathing of the intelligence agencies and main stream media.
Matt Taibbi on this:
The Horowitz report makes clear that multiple news cycles over the last few years were dominated by reports that were either incorrect or lacking factual foundation.
These included assertions by multiple outlets that the Steele dossier was not central to the FBI’s efforts to secure a warrant on Page, that the FBI found Christopher Steele and his dossier “credible,” that tales of FISA abuse were conspiracy theory (one of many claims Mother Jones called “bullshit”), that the memo written by Devin Nunes on the subject was wrong and had been “debunked,” that Russians “blocked” Trump from nominating Mitt Romney as Secretary of State, that Trump lawyer Michael Cohen was in Prague (presumably to meet Russian hackers), that a “pee tape” existed, that Russia’s Alfa Bank and the Trump campaign were communicating via a secret server, that the FISA warrant on Page must have been producing good intelligence in order to be renewed three times, and many other things.
The Washington Post is one of the few outlets to start the process of reassessing their coverage, noting in a fact check that a “fair amount” of the Nunes memo had been “vindicated” by Horowitz. Ari Melber of MSNBC also called out James Comey for being “over his skis” on the “pee tape.” These are first steps, but Horowitz’s findings suggest a much broader thematic media FUBAR that’s still being ignored. ....
Horowitz makes clear that the dossier by Steele was the lynchpin – if not the only foundation – for the FBI’s Trump-Russia conspiracy case. As one FBI agent says in the report, “The minute we put the [Steele election reporting] in there, it goes from what you’d expect the FBI to be collecting in a counterintelligence context to direct allegations about collusion with the Trump campaign.”
Wed, 2020-04-22 07:10
#493
Senate Intel report confirms Russia aimed to help Trump in 2016
Wed, 2020-05-13 11:41
#494
Final Nail in Russiagate Coffin (and vid)
https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1260275867546202114
"Joined Jimmy Dore to discuss the bombshell admission that Russiagate peddlers are (understandably) ignoring."
Mon, 2020-05-18 00:11
#495
Rolling Stone: Useful Idiots
"Recent developments in Russiagate, how it's helping Trump..."
Fri, 2020-05-22 20:26
#496
Why Russiagate Still Matters
https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/05/22/why-russiagate-still-matters/
"A thought experiment with a purpose is to ask: if a group of former Directors of the CIA, NSA and FBI put forward a story about a malevolent foreign power acting against the US without providing evidence that their story is true, who would believe that? The faction that believed the charges, management class liberals still substantially believes this despite none of the evidence put forward to support them holding up under examination..."
Sat, 2020-05-23 07:43
#497
The Mueller Report found that the Russian government "interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion" and "violated U.S. criminal law".
Sat, 2020-05-23 10:41
#498
The Mueller Report found that the Russian government "interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion" and "violated U.S. criminal law".
Yeah, but none of the cool kids, like Aaron Mate, Jimmy Dore, Michael Tracey, and NDPP believe the Mueller Report, so we can be sure that it doesn't "hold up under examination".
Sat, 2020-05-23 15:02
#499
Chomsky: By Focusing on Russia, Democrats Handed Trump a 'Huge Gift' & Possibly the 2020 Election
"...Take Russiagate. It was obvious from the beginning you weren't going to find anything very serious about Russian interference in elections. Russian interference in the 2016 election, if it existed, was much less than the interference by, say Israel. And there's no interference in elections that compares to campaign funding..."
Aaron Mate Debunks RussiaGate and Discusses How Liberals Came to Love Bush-Era Neocons (podcast)
https://twitter.com/MnarMuh/status/1263533914708226048
"Such a treat to speak with Aaron Mate who joins me for MintCast to dissect 4 years of Russiagate propaganda, how it serves the purpose of Democrats enlisting liberals to the right and build trust for Bush-era neocons and corrupt intelligence community."
Sat, 2020-05-23 21:31
#500
The Mueller Report found that the Russian government "interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion" and "violated U.S. criminal law".
Yeah, but none of the cool kids, like Aaron Mate, Jimmy Dore, Michael Tracey, and NDPP believe the Mueller Report, so we can be sure that it doesn't "hold up under examination".
They never let facts get in the way of pro-Russian propaganda.
Sat, 2020-05-23 21:40
#501
Lucky US that Russia uses the internet. Pity places like Brazil and Bolivia that get the US interferring in their democracies.