The fascist threat to Canada

Yes the danger is real and it ends and begins with the CPC. Expecially if Bernier becomes the new leader. It's in fashion now and we have to stay vigilant. We may have to hold our noses with the alternatives,mind you.

I hope Bin Laden's carcass is eel infested in some part of the Indian Ocean. That bastard/genius knew what he was doing. He'd be having a knee slapping time if he were to see results of his plot.

He's the man who has empowered fascists from the US,Canada,the UK and Europe. And the men and women who are thanking him for it all preside on the Right. That's the enemy. That's the threat.

I think this is one of the funniest threads in a long while. We live inside the belly of the imperial fascist regime. We have nothing to fear because we are already under the control of our murderous mining corporations as well as the oil oligarchy with both the Liberals and Torys on speed dial to SNC and Bombardier and RBC and BMO and lets not forget the UNIFOR backed arms manufacturers.

LMAO why would the fascists need a coup?

Canadians do not rebel so the velvet glove over the iron fist works very well. Here is what happens to people who peacefully protest after a corporation has been granted an interim injunction. I was also arrested outside the tank farm but back then the going rate was a $500 fine. Any new protestors start out with the potential for jail time because the overt strategy of the Crown is escalating fines and jail time until the protests stop.  This is not damaging property but merely for interfering with a corporations contested rights to expand a tank farm in a residential area. The municipality could not get an injunction to stop the corporation. The First Nations cannot get an injunction to stop the corporation.  The RCMP even had the audacity to send an overtime bill to the City of Burnaby to cover policing costs for a project that the city opposes both politically and in the courts. Fascism is a hundred year old ideology of the rich and their minions. They are not stuck in only using the model from eighty years ago in Europe. We live in a fascist state with a democratic facade.

Hi everyone,

In case you didn't hear, Terry Christenson was tried on November 20 for his fourth Trans Mountain-related arrest. His trial was before BC Supreme Court Justice Shelley Fitzpatrick. Judge Fitzpatrick is a former corporate lawyer and in October she ruled against striking low-wage hotel workers.

Terry was brought from North Fraser Pretrial Centre, where he was serving jail time for previous contempt convictions, to stand trial on his fourth contempt charge.

Unsurprisingly, Terry was again convicted of criminal contempt. Judge Fitzpatrick saw fit to issue a written verdict in his case, which can be read here. Not sure if she'll continue to issue written rulings, but most likely she wanted to cover her tracks for giving Terry the most stringent Trans Mountain-related sentence yet.

Terry was sentenced to 5 month in jail to be served concurrently with (NOT in addition to) his existing jail sentence. Terry's sentence comes close to the longest sentence served in a political case involving criminal contempt in BC. During the logging resistance in Clayoquot Sound in the early 1990s, at least one person was sentenced to 6 months in jail.

Terry, who according to this Star article was on hunger strike before his fourth trial, should be released from jail some time in February. To write to Terry, send letters here:

Terry Christenson
North Fraser Pretrial Centre
1451 Kingsway Ave
Port Coquitlam, BC
V3C 1S2

In solidarity,

Kris

Here's a question?
Where do you distinguish between ideology & lifestyle.

Fascists have had a lot of success incorporating lifestyle altering activities such as physical training into their regimen.
Is it that if you merely limit yourself to political beliefs/ideas instead of branching off into the practical, do your members then regress to the neo liberal status quo.

I know progressives have some idea of what a progressive lifestyle or character is like, but just some food for thought.

two caveats I am definitely not a progressive and am heavily invested in physical training. I think health/fitness is good for everyone and should be encouraged universally.

Was just something on my mind because I was adjusting my training routine.
Sorry if my the message appears disjointed Ill clarify & answer questions if someone wants me to just early in the morning..

One other thought would be that progressive movements/ideas seem to sit better with 'most' people I assume because of the lack of a distinguished phenotype (am I using it correctly?) almost.. 
Whereas other movements are definitely more mobilizing toward uniformity, which provides a stronger in vs out group feeling.

I've read things on how a stronger in group feeling ie the intolerant minority always wins..

BUT I don't know how this sort of winning vs losing narrative relates to helping the poor/vulnerable beyond 'winning' that cause.. I guess.

iyraste1313 wrote:

why would we ever need a fascist coup?

Common people, just trying to get along, fit in, to carry on their worthy personal pursuits, will shake off their political passivity, when they can no longer survive...this is where we are headed.Anyone that thinks we will carry on with a 750 trillion derivative debt, facilitated by drastically expanding money creationist repo market is deluded!

As the markets continue their parasitical thirst, people's lives will increasingly be threatened...I certainly can see it, based in rural highlands of BC......a point will come when fundamentalists both on the libertarian and fascist sides will gain popular support, no matter how shrill, the likes of the CBC may increasingly be...this is when the forces of the fascist putscists will be encouraged and financed...as happened in Bolivia.....

You have missed the point that coups in Honduras and Bolivia were at the behest of Canadian companies. They already own us they don't need a coup. We will not elect an indigenous headed government that limits corporate rights and protects indigenous land and water. If we did then maybe we would face a possible coup.

They don't need a coup in Canada. The indigenous people are too small a number and the vast majority of Canadians don't give a fuck if a few Indians get killed to help the economy, Canadians never have in the past so why would they now. Colonial settler states are fascist by nature. Canada is a fascist state with an Indian Act that gives indigenous people less rights than other Canadians. The federal government has been in breach of a Canadian Human Rights Tribunal decision for over 1200 days so why would a UN slap on the wrist change the corporate policy of stealing the last assets of our first peoples that dominates all the political parties in this country. Our corporate masters have always preferred the velvet glove for the settlers and the iron fist for the first owners. The NWMP was set up as a para-military institution to enforce the theft of indigenous land. Bolivia had a system like that and the the majority indigenous population voted in a government that changed that model. If Canada gets a government like Morales led then we might have to worry but that will never happen here.

"Doug Ford appoints a Toronto cop as a human rights commissioner, even as the body he will sit on is actively investigating allegations of racial profiling and discrimination by the Toronto Police Service. A subtle move if ever there was one."

https://twitter.com/JohnOCAP/status/1220375355200036867

They don't call it 'Hogtown' for nothing...

iyraste1313 wrote:

from Mathew Ehret and the seeds of the fascist takeover of Canada......

Sadly in 1911, Laurier’s government was taken down by a Roundtable-steered coup resulting in the defeated Prime Minister famously stating:

“Canada is now governed by a junta sitting at London, known as ‘The Round Table’, with ramifications in Toronto, in Winnipeg, in Victoria, with Tories and Grits receiving their ideas from London and insidiously forcing them on their respective parties.”

Just to make sure we understand what's really being said there, Ehret runs a LaRouche front, Canadian Patriot, whose website takes that quote from a book by the rather sketchy American academic Carroll Quigley.

Even if Laurier said that, the real meaning of the quote, given the context of the 1911 election, was that Laurier thought the British had too much power over Canada, and were preventing us from having closer relations with the US.

Whatever you think of those opinions, they're not really relevant to 2020, since Britan vs. America is not really the way global power-politics line up anymore. Unless, of course, you subscribe to the LaRouche view that the natural benevolence of American Manifest Destiney has been perverted by an anglo-aligned banking cabal, in which case, they make total sense.

they're not really relevant to 2020??

No, because unlike in Laurier's day, the foreign-policy choice on offer is not Align With The United Kingdom vs. Align With The USA. Both of those entities are now on the same side.

voice of the damned wrote:

iyraste1313 wrote:

from Mathew Ehret and the seeds of the fascist takeover of Canada......

Sadly in 1911, Laurier’s government was taken down by a Roundtable-steered coup resulting in the defeated Prime Minister famously stating:

“Canada is now governed by a junta sitting at London, known as ‘The Round Table’, with ramifications in Toronto, in Winnipeg, in Victoria, with Tories and Grits receiving their ideas from London and insidiously forcing them on their respective parties.”

Just to make sure we understand what's really being said there, Ehret runs a LaRouche front, Canadian Patriot, whose website takes that quote from a book by the rather sketchy American academic Carroll Quigley.

Even if Laurier said that, the real meaning of the quote, given the context of the 1911 election, was that Laurier thought the British had too much power over Canada, and were preventing us from having closer relations with the US.

Whatever you think of those opinions, they're not really relevant to 2020, since Britan vs. America is not really the way global power-politics line up anymore. Unless, of course, you subscribe to the LaRouche view that the natural benevolence of American Manifest Destiney has been perverted by an anglo-aligned banking cabal, in which case, they make total sense.

Matthew Ehret maintains that the founding of the CCF was a British plot:

Just as Roosevelt was coming to power in America in 1932, the Rhodes Trust networks of Canada centering on Escott Reid, Frank Underhill, Eugene Forsey, F.R. Scott, and David Lewis founded a self-described “Fabian modeled think tank” customized for Canada known as the League for Social Reconstruction (LSR). Reid, Forsey, Scott and Lewis were all Rhodes Scholars while Underhill was an Oxford trained Fabian who was tutored by Harold Laski and G.B. Shaw at Balliol College. The avowed intention of the group was to institute a system of “scientific management of society” under Fabian precepts and expressed itself in the group’s selecting of J.S. Woodsworth, another Oxford-trained Fabian, to head the new Cooperative Commonwealth Federation (CCF) as an outgrowth of the LSR. The CCF called for the complete destruction of capitalism in its Regina Manifesto of 1933. Woodsworth, an avowed eugenicist, vigorously endorsed the passage of Alberta’s 1927 sterilization laws to eliminate the unfit (32). Following the gospel of his Fabian mentors H.G. Wells and G.B. Shaw, Woodsworth even advocated the abolishment of personal property. At its heart the CCF was not your typical “socialism”, but merely fascism with a “scientific” socialist face.

http://canadianpatriot.org/origins-of-deep-state-part1/

Pierre Trudeau and Rene Levesque were also a part of this British plot:

Upon returning to Montreal in 1951, Trudeau came under the control of F.R. Scott, Rhodes scholar and co-founder of the League of Social Reconstruction (LSR) 20 years earlier. Trudeau’s celebrity as an enemy of Quebec Premier Maurice Duplessis was cultivated by these Rhodes networks through his publication Cité Libre which served to 1) brainwash young intellectuals according to the journal’s existential Catholic “personalist” philosophy of French philosophers Jacques Maritain and Emmanuel Mounier on the one side and 2) rally a populist attack on the Vatican-influenced Union Nationale (UN) government of Duplessis, Daniel Johnson Sr. and Paul Sauvé on the other [8]. This provincial government had made its renown not only for resisting British control over its destiny, but had also been a beachhead of resistance against eugenics laws then being implemented across the continent [9]. Trudeau worked in tandem with the creepy network of social engineers run from Laval University by Father George Henri Lévesque (co-chair of the Massey Commission), which exploded onto the scene in 1960 as the “Quiet Revolution” overthrow of the Union Nationale after two untimely heart attacks of UN leaders beginning with Duplessis in 1959, then followed by Paul Sauvé a mere nine months later.

Another personality whose celebrity was being created in tandem with Trudeau’s during the 1950s included Trudeau`s schoolboy chum, and British Intelligence asset René Lévesque, whose popular CBC radio show Point de Mire served to rally public opinion against the Duplessis regime and prepare the culture for the radically liberalizing reforms of the Quiet Revolution [10].

http://canadianpatriot.org/origins-of-deep-state-part2/

Another writer (Pierre Beaudry) on the same site describes the failure of the US invasion of Canada in 1775 as "tragic"