2020 USA presidential election

Cody87 wrote:

NorthReport wrote:

30% of the cases on our planet are in the USA.  Absolutely staggering. The USA is a failed state.

Well, only if you believe China's numbers...and Iran's...and Russia's...and that Africa has the means to test for it...

Why believe any of them? 

Why believe any country that has only tested the smallest fraction of their population.

Why believe Canada's? Ontario still not testing most people.

josh wrote:

Sanders endorses Biden.

https://twitter.com/evanlweber/status/1249764266032463872?s=20[/quote]

Considering that Sanders did not follow advice from his own campaign to hit Biden on his vulnerabilities and present himself as the more electable candidate, (I mean seriously, why did he say on national TV that he thought Biden could beat Trump?) that is disappointing, however does not come as a surprise.

No matter. The core of Sanders' voting base had very specific public policy agenda items they wanted addressed. If they don't see those items being addressed, they will not vote for Biden, regardless of what Sanders or anyone else tells them they should do.

NorthReport wrote:

I feel sorry for any country that borders on America.

'Mind-boggling': How pandemic planning never accounted for a President like Trump

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/14/politics/pandemic-preparedness-trump-invs/index.html

NORTH, WE BORDER WITH THE UNITED STATES!!!

Sean in Ottawa wrote:

Cody87 wrote:

NorthReport wrote:

30% of the cases on our planet are in the USA.  Absolutely staggering. The USA is a failed state.

Well, only if you believe China's numbers...and Iran's...and Russia's...and that Africa has the means to test for it...

Why believe any of them? 

Why believe any country that has only tested the smallest fraction of their population.

Why believe Canada's? Ontario still not testing most people.

You're absolutely correct. And, you show why NorthReport's point has no merit.

cco wrote:

Sean in Ottawa wrote:

States rights is their mantra. I am not going to debate with you the parts of every religion that are hypocritical. I think the GOP is not more hypocritical than religions on their articles of faith. How about Conservative Christians and their approach to poverty? The GOP to protect their interests in the most Conservative states have fought for state's rights for more than a century.

My point was that expecting the Republican base to abandon Trump because he overrules governors is like expecting Alberta's Conservative voters to walk away from the Tories because Scheer called for a taxpayer bailout for the oil sector. It's well and good to point out the hypocrisy, but it won't cost Trump any votes, and given Biden's segregationism has already caused him problems, even I don't think the Democrats will be stupid enough to have him run on a states'-rights platform.

My point is that this goes on the pile of states that support republicans being ready to ditch Trump once he is no longer an asset. I think we are fast getting there.

This is one of those political changes that happens under cover over time and when it materializes people think it is a sudden thing. A non-stick pan is non-stick until it isn't but that did not happen in a single day.

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https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1250212448633868289

"Jimmy Dore and I discuss Bernie's endorsement of Biden and lesser evil voting and how Bernie's failure to reject Russiagate and Ukrainegate ultimately helped the Democratic Party establishment defeat him..."

The claim that Sanders could have won the nomination and presidency if only he had run a smarter campaign is delusional. The DNC, the corporate media (including the currently anti-Trump MSM) and security intelligence agencies along with massively funded black ops would have undermined him, much as happened to Corbyn in the UK.

It's amusing how some radicals believe in the fantasy of a functioning democracy, but only when doing so flatters their own ideological superiority.
 

Trump has already deflected blame of his Administration's mishandling of the coronavirus crisis onto China. His cutting funds to the World Health Organization is red meet to his hard-core isolationist American exceptionalist base. Never under-estimate the capacity these people have for deflecing blame onto any available scapegoat. Also note that the media misrepresents what is happening in other parts of the world, so these people don't have information about how other countries did better than the US.

$484 Billion U.S. Coronavirus Bill Won’t Fund Relief Checks, Food Stamps or State Aid

In the United States, the epicenter of the pandemic, the death toll from COVID-19 has topped 45,000. On Tuesday, the Senate approved $484 billion in new coronavirus aid on a voice vote, with many senators remaining at home due to the pandemic.

The bill adds another $310 billion to the Paycheck Protection Program providing loans to small businesses, another $75 billion for hospitals, $25 billion for testing and $60 billion for emergency disaster loans and grants. The House is expected to vote on the legislation today. The bill provides no new stimulus checks for U.S. households, no additional money for food stamps, no limits on fossil fuel bailouts, no funds for election security, no bailout for the U.S. Postal Service and no additional funds for hard-hit state and local governments.

Democratic Congressmember Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez told MSNBC Tuesday that lawmakers are failing to provide for millions of unemployed people who are unable to pay rent and increasingly at risk of going hungry.

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: “We are abdicating our responsibility. We haven’t legislated for a month, and thousands of people are dying. Thousands of people are dying every day. And we aren’t going — and we’re talking about coming back. And every time we pass one of these bills, we’re hearing that the real solution is coming in the next bill — and in the next bill and the next bill. And at some point we have to raise our hands and say, 'When is the solution coming?' Because two months of rent are going to pass by before we’re actually even entertaining a real bill.”

The House and Senate have extended their recesses another two weeks — until May 4. Progressive lawmakers are demanding $2,000 monthly payments to all U.S. households and open enrollment in Medicare for uninsured and unemployed people, when lawmakers take up another round of funding, the so-called phase four coronavirus bill.

Cody, I don't believe that any of Biden's supporters can be fairly described as "the left". So whatever they say or believe, it really has nothing at all to do with "the left". They will be much happier with a Biden loss than they would have been with a Sanders win because despite the constant lies of the mass media, they are not "the left", they are the left faction of the ruling class.

Biden's selection of Larry Summers, who helped introduce many of the economic policies under Regan, Clinton and Obama that greatly widened income and wealth income, is a warning sign of what is to come if Biden wins the election.

Progressive groups are protesting news that Larry Summers is advising presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden’s presidential campaign on economic policy, calling on the former vice president to cut ties with the former Obama administration adviser who is something of a bogeyman for those in the left flank of the Democratic Party. ...

Two groups aligned with Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Justice Democrats and the Sunrise Movement, started a petition on Friday in which they call on Biden to no longer use Summers as an adviser.

“Larry Summers’s legacy is advocating for policies that contributed to the skyrocketing inequality and climate crisis we’re living with today,” the groups said in a joint statement. “Joe Biden has a major trust gap that he must overcome with progressives and voters under 45 who voted overwhelmingly against him in the primary and who he’ll need to defeat Donald Trump.”

Summers has long been one of the most exalted economists in the world. He had roles in the Reagan, Clinton and Obama administrations and has served as the chief economist at the World Bank. He is known for his deep ties to Wall Street and Silicon Valley and for repeatedly backing bailouts for big financial institutions, and has been criticized for leaving middle-class workers with little assistance. It is precisely Summers’ kind of economic thinking that led to the rise of movements like Occupy Wall Street and the unexpected support for Sanders’ two presidential runs after the Great Recession.  ...

Progressive groups have long been lobbying to take down Summers. Naomi Klein, a progressive author and activist, argued to “banish” Summers from public life in a 2009 column in The Washington Post. In 2013, a coalition of activist groups and progressive lawmakers — including Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), who clashed with Summers during the 2008 financial crisis — successfully tanked Summers’ nomination as Federal Reserve chairman. 

Biden’s campaign tried to downplay Summers’ role, saying he was one of many economists it has consulted and that he holds no formal position within the campaign. (The Biden team has turned to Summers before, reportedly referring journalists to him when they sought comment on Warren’s health care plan last year.) ...

Summers was a fierce critic of some of the most progressive policy ideas floated during the Democratic primary. He said Warren’s signature wealth tax proposal was “approaching confiscatory” and should be seen as a last resort, and he called her plan to transition to a single-payer “Medicare For All” system “dangerous” — two critiques Biden echoed on the campaign trail.

The news about Summers advising Biden comes as groups including Demand Progress and Revolving Door Project look to find ways to influence the campaign’s future personnel picks. More than two dozen good government and ethics groups published an open letter on Thursday in which they called on Biden to make the campaign’s personnel-picking process more transparent.

“People like Larry Summers, and others of his archetype ― Larry Fink, Jamie Dimon, Tom Nides ― have no place in Democratic politics at this juncture. We need to elevate people who aren’t responsible for crises,” David Segal, who runs Demand Progress, said in reference to potential, but unconfirmed, Biden administration picks named in an Axios report. 

“In the primary Biden benefited from his association with Obama, but it’s very hard to transfer that shine to Larry Summers,” Segal said, noting that more people are attuned to that shift in politics these days.

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/biden-larry-summers-progressives_n_5...

I know, right?  I thought I'd see a third party candidate do well in 2016 but nope, same old same old.  How can you not do well as a third party candidate when the D's and R's are trying to outdo each other with shitty candidates.

Further to #181

Progressives Demand Ouster  of Larry Summers as Joe Biden's Economic Adviser

https://www.democracynow.org/2020/4/27/headlines/progressives_demand_ous...

"Larry Summers' legacy is advocating for policies that contributed to the skyrocketing inequality and climate crisis we're living with today. Summers previously worked in the Clinton and Obama administrations. He has been tied to convicted sexual predator and sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein..."

Not to mention Chrystia Freeland, who refers to him as her 'guru'.

Five Things That Are Revealed By Democrats' Rehabilitation of Bush

https://twitter.com/caitoz/status/1257135042796457986

"1. It shows how little Democrats care about the lives of human beings overseas. 2. It shows that Trump-era Democrats are Bush-era Republicans."

“It Shattered My Life”: Former Joe Biden Staffer Tara Reade Says He Sexually Assaulted Her in 1993

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TARA READE: I was approached by my supervisor. She handed me a gym bag and said, “Hurry, Joe wants this, so get it to him. He’ll meet you down towards the Capitol.” And I went down the stairs, and I don’t remember exactly where I was, because there’s connections between the Russell Building and all of that and the corridors, but we were in a semi-private location. It wasn’t a room. It wasn’t, you know, the Russell Office Building — I mean, in his office. It was down in the corridors. And I handed him the gym bag.....