Stockwell Day Denies Reality: Says Their Is No Systemic Racism in Canada

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Tue, 2020-06-02 22:19

jerrym

In a Power and Politics panel, Stockwell Day claimed there is no systemic racial discrimiation in Canada and compared racism to his being teased in school for wearing glasses. This makes about as much sense as denial that global warming is not impacting our lives.

The video of the interview can be seen at 51:49 of this url: https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1745686595959

When Susan Delacourt replied to Day's rant with the tweet "Oh my goodness, that was a very regrettable rant by Stockwell Day on @PnPCBC. Among other things, he equated racism with teasing he got in school for wearing glasses."

Day replied with "Really Susan,J think you can do better than that. Can you please just tell us if you agree with the Prime Minister’s position that Canada is a systemically racist country?"

Wed, 2020-06-03 22:53

Debater

Stockwell Day exits CBC commentary role, corporate posts after comments about racism in Canada

Jun 03, 2020

Former Conservative cabinet minister Stockwell Day has stepped down from his role as a commentator on CBC News Network's Power & Politics — and has left senior positions at two major companies — after making comments on Tuesday's show about racism in Canada he later admitted were "insensitive and hurtful".

"I ask forgiveness for wrongly equating my experiences to theirs. I commit to them my unending efforts to fight racism in all its forms," Day said in a tweet earlier today.

Day also notified CBC he was stepping away from his role as a commentator for the program.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/stockwell-day-systemic-racism-canada-1.5597550

Thu, 2020-06-04 01:19

NDPP

Is he also off the board of CIJA?

Thu, 2020-06-04 01:38

Misfit

Good riddance.

Thu, 2020-06-04 01:51

NDPP

Yes, nasty piece of work. But obviously so, unlike the PC pretenders.

Thu, 2020-06-04 02:21

Misfit

Well, he's 69 years of age. His career was winding down anyway. He has the time now to chum around with Don Cherry.

Thu, 2020-06-04 19:27

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kropotkin1951

Misfit wrote:

Well, he's 69 years of age. His career was winding down anyway. He has the time now to chum around with Don Cherry.

Both of them lost their plum end of life pay checks they were getting for being lap dogs for the oligarchy. I feel so sorry for them.

Thu, 2020-06-04 20:39

Paladin1

Too bad he wasn't an educated 24 year old school teacher from an influential family, then we could have forgave him for "kids making mistakes" eh

Thu, 2020-06-04 21:24

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kropotkin1951

Paladin1 wrote:

Too bad he wasn't an educated 24 year old school teacher from an influential family, then we could have forgave him for "kids making mistakes" eh

He had his own racist family. Fuck him and his father too.

His father, who was born in Montreal, was long associated with the Social Credit Party of Canada. In the 1972 federal election he was the Social Credit candidate running against New Democratic Party leader Tommy Douglas in the riding of Nanaimo—Cowichan—The Islands. Day Sr. supported Doug Christie and was a member of the Western Canada Concept.

Fri, 2020-06-05 03:29

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Ken Burch

Paladin1 wrote:

Too bad he wasn't an educated 24 year old school teacher from an influential family, then we could have forgave him for "kids making mistakes" eh

Nobody on Babble forgave him. Hardly anyone here voted Liberal at the next election. but you'd have to admit, loathesome as that was, it could never have been a victory for antiracism to replace his government with a Con government led by Scheer.

Fri, 2020-06-05 03:30

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Ken Burch

(Self-delete. Dupe post).

Fri, 2020-06-05 06:48

#12

Misfit

Stockwell Day is the former leader of a major national political party in Canada. He was an elected MP for eleven years. He actively campaigned on and debated bills before the House of Commons which dealt directly with issues of racism. He had to have heard of Oka, Attawapiskat, MMIWG, starlight tours, Idle No More, black mold on reservations and skin conditions with First Nations children, federal underfunding of education for First Nations children, immigration, head tax, human rights, residential schools, mandatory minimum sentences, Meech Lake Accord, Charlottetown Accord, bilingualism, Black Lives Matter, stonewall, Christie Pits, slavery, curfews, Chinese slavery, Japanese concentration camps, eugenics, forced sterilization of aboriginal women, Viola Desmond, niqab, snitch lines, conscription, Louis Riel, the KKK, the Indian Act, yellow jackets, Ernst Zundel, boatloads of refugees being turned away (Jewish and Indian), Happy Holidays, mosque vandalism, carding, starlight tours, refugee head tax, secularism, Islamophobia, distinct society, cultural appropriation and on and on and on.

His active political career and post political punditry commentator role on many of these very issues should have been his education. He learned absolutely nothing. That isn't racism, it's extreme racism. His words erased the entire history of white colonial settlement on this continent.

He actively fought to be Prime Minister of Canada. He exposed the depth and scope of his entire political reality.

Fri, 2020-06-05 18:35

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bekayne

kropotkin1951 wrote:

Paladin1 wrote:

Too bad he wasn't an educated 24 year old school teacher from an influential family, then we could have forgave him for "kids making mistakes" eh

He had his own racist family. Fuck him and his father too.

His father, who was born in Montreal, was long associated with the Social Credit Party of Canada. In the 1972 federal election he was the Social Credit candidate running against New Democratic Party leader Tommy Douglas in the riding of Nanaimo—Cowichan—The Islands. Day Sr. supported Doug Christie and was a member of the Western Canada Concept.

In fact Stock Sr. had his own "pet name" for Christie: "My Captain"

Fri, 2020-06-05 20:19

#14

jerrym

After facing a large backlash Doug Ford, like Stockwell Day, has issued an 'amendment' to his views on racism. ' “Thank God that we’re different than the United States and we don’t have the systemic, deep roots they have had for years,' Ford said at the time, a comment that has been met with sharp criticism online."

As unsurprising as Day's revision. Too bad we can't rid of Ford as quickly and easily as the CBC got rid of Day. Of course, that raises the question of why the CBC had him on as a regular panelist at all.

Ontario Premier Doug Ford says racism does exist in this country, less than 24 hours after saying that Canada doesn't have the same “systemic, deep roots” of racism as the United States.

Ford’s comments came during a sitting at Queen’s Park Wednesday, when the premier was asked by Opposition Leader Andrea Horwath about her call for the immediate collection of race-based data as it relates to COVID-19.

“Of course there’s systemic racism in Ontario, there’s systemic racism across this country,” Ford said.

“I know it exists, Mr. Speaker, what I don’t know is the hardships faced by those communities. And a lot of us in this chamber do not know the hardships within those communities, Mr. Speaker,” Ford continued.

“I do not have those lived experiences and I can empathize with them. But again Mr. Speaker, a lot of us have never lived that, we’ve never walked a mile in someone’s shoes that has faced racism. Not only just in the black community, a lot of minority communities, throughout the history of Ontario and Canada have faced racism.”

The comments are different from what the premier said Tuesday when asked about protests in cities across the U.S. sparked by the death of George Floyd, an unarmed black man, at the hands of a white police officer in Minneapolis.

“Thank God that we’re different than the United States and we don’t have the systemic, deep roots they have had for years,” Ford said at the time, a comment that has been met with sharp criticism online.

https://www.cp24.com/news/facing-criticism-ontario-premier-doug-ford-bac...

Fri, 2020-06-05 22:00

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laine lowe laine lowe's picture

Doug Ford said, “Thank God that we’re different than the United States and we don’t have the systemic, deep roots they have had for years,” Ford said at the time, a comment that has been met with sharp criticism online.

And I unfortunately heard a similar comment from someone who considers themselves wholly "woke". There are so many Canadians who think that we are so much more "tolerant" than the USA. First of all, I despise the word tolerant. That is not an embracing or empathic term - it just means that you are willing to put up with the inconvenience. That is only a fraction better than intolerant.

I wonder if those Canadians who claim to be so sympathetic to the plight of Black Americans and think that we are so much better in our race relations have ever stopped to think about the parallels between calls for reparations for black slavery and calls for reparations for unceded Indigenous lands. The US and Uk wholly shuddered at the concept and practically shut it down at the most progressive UN Conference on Human Rights that sadly occured in August 2001. Events of 9-11 derailed any momentum the resoultions agreed to at the conference had. Black slavery reparations was on that agenda among many other excellent recommendations including acknowledging the theft of lands from Indigenous people.

Sun, 2020-06-07 00:06

#16

Ken Burch

To be fair, though, couldn't "Stockwell Day Denies Reality" have been the title of any Babble thread ever stated about him?

Sun, 2020-06-07 10:46

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Michael Moriarity

Ken Burch wrote:

To be fair, though, couldn't "Stockwell Day Denies Reality" have been the title of any Babble thread ever stated about him?

Day is a young earth creationist, which includes the belief that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time, prior to Noah's flood. As Warren Kinsella wittily commented during the 2000 election campaign, he thinks The Flintstones is a documentary.

Wed, 2020-06-10 00:32

#18

Misfit

Sarah Palin is another "new earth" believer.

Wed, 2020-06-10 21:15

#19

singh47

Close to 50% of your youth are of First Nations or Visible Minority descent.
(statscan says the working age overall is 30, 40 for post2nd grads, 9% for 1st nation)
I'd estimate and round that close to 50 for people below 25.
Around 8% of our police and 11% of our military are.

That's probably worse than the USA, perusing the internet for people who've lived in both:

Canada as a whole is a more pleasant place, but there's not as much of a network of well-established non-mainstream people.

The USA will see a lot more examples of Black CEOs, minorities in the bureaucracy etc.
Canada will use racial slurs less, (hopefully).