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Cancel Canada Day: Marches Protesting Indigenous Injustice Planned in Multiple Cities

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/cancel-canada-day-marches-protesting-indig...

"We will not celebrate the ongoing genocide within Canada against Indigenous people..."

laine lowe laine lowe's picture

I'm up for that.

Neither Quebec nor Newfoundland & Labrador celebrate it. As for Quebec, I find it ironic that they cling to Sainte Jean Baptiste as a "national" holiday when it is so steeped in religious significance. If they are truly commited to expunging the shackles of religion as many have claimed, you would think that SJB would be the first to be jettisoned.

I always liked La Bastille Day in France because it commemorated the fall of the aristocracy.

Ken Burch

laine lowe wrote:

I'm up for that.

Neither Quebec nor Newfoundland & Labrador celebrate it. As for Quebec, I find it ironic that they cling to Sainte Jean Baptiste as a "national" holiday when it is so steeped in religious significance. If they are truly commited to expunging the shackles of religion as many have claimed, you would think that SJB would be the first to be jettisoned.

I always liked La Bastille Day in France because it commemorated the fall of the aristocracy.

It's all part of that bizarre "Catholicism is DIFFERENT, damn it-it's the default position in Quebec" thing that both CAQ and the remnants of the PQ due in order to pander to the "pure laine" types in "the regions"-the places where everybody's "grandmere et grandpere"voted heavily Creditiste in 1962 and 1963 not out of anything related to the political situation in Quebec or the ROC, but to lash out at the Vatican for admitting that Jews were not collectively responsible for the Crucifixion.

kropotkin1951

That is one bizarre take on Quebec politics Ken.

cco

Bizarre and fictional, but I suppose cancelling Canada Day doesn't mean the national pastime of Quebec-bashing has to come to an end. Duplessis is dead, and I've been to Fête nationale (its official name for the last 43 years) celebrations for a decade and a half now without running into a single priest.

Aristotleded24

cco wrote:
Bizarre and fictional, but I suppose cancelling Canada Day doesn't mean the national pastime of Quebec-bashing has to come to an end. Duplessis is dead, and I've been to Fête nationale (its official name for the last 43 years) celebrations for a decade and a half now without running into a single priest.

That gets onto something I was thinking about, mainly if going after the symbolism actually brings about any meaningful change. The problem of going after symbols is that dispensing with certain symbols costs the corporate state nothing. Suppose we cancel Canada Day. Does it necessarily follow from that that the atrocities against First Nations people will come to an end? I have always enjoyed Canada Day, and so do many Canadians. Is that wrong? Are we accomplishing anything by telling people how they should or shouldn't feel about a particular day? Will going after the symbolism generate a backlash and cause us to fight with each other, distracted by things like this still going on?

That said, I respect the viewpoint of people who say, "given all that has happened, I really don't feel like celebrating." We (supposedly) live in a free country, and people have the right to contrary viewpoints and to have demonstrations based on said viewpoints.

Ken Burch

kropotkin1951 wrote:

That is one bizarre take on Quebec politics Ken.

I wasn't talking about everybody in Quebec politics, just the CAQ and the PQ, both of which have pandered to old-time Creditiste rural ignorance on the role of Catholicism in Quebec.  What I said there doesn't apply to QS.

And the point about why the Creditistes did so well in '62 and '63-voting for them was a way for rural, right-wing Quebecers was a way to lash out at the Church for renouncing antisemitism-was something I learned in a thread on this board.  What else could the fixation on the idea that Catholicism played such a special role in Quebec's history that its symbols should be privileged in a way no other faith tradition's symbols are be called?  It's based solely on a rejection of pluralism and inclusion, on a rejection of modern, cosmopolitan life, which is pretty much what the CAQ electoral message is about and which, increasingly, is what the PQ and the Bloc have reduced themselves to.

 

Aristotleded24

laine lowe wrote:
I always liked La Bastille Day in France because it commemorated the fall of the aristocracy.

I actually like how May Long Weekend is a holiday throughout the country, where the majority English speaking provinces celebrate the rule of the British crown over Her Majesty's Loyal Subjects, while the holiday in Quebec is named after those who rose up to fight against rule by monarchy.

Aristotleded24

Au sujet de la Fête de Saint-jean Baptiste, c'est n'est pas seulement les Québecois qui le celebrent. C'est une fête très important au petite ville de Labroquerie au Manitoba.