2020 USA presidential election

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josh

Said Flynn: “There is no way in the world we are going to be able to move forward as a nation. He could immediately, on his order, seize every single one of these voting machines, on his order. He could order the, within the swing states, if he wanted to, he could take military capabilities, and he could place those in states and basically rerun an election in each of those states.”

https://politicalwire.com/2020/12/17/flynn-calls-for-trump-to-institute-martial-law/

JKR

NDPP wrote:

A not-so-looney-look at 2020 election results in battleground states

https://nypost.com/2020/12/16/not-so-looney-look-at-2020-election-result...

"Whether or not you think the skepticism of half the country is 'looney', only a bipartisan and transparent investigation of these allegations will allow the country to move on with some semblance of the 'unity' Biden claims to desire..."

Fascist Trump and his looney cult of personality will never accept Trump's election loss. Placating Trump's autocracy and sadism will only make things worse. Appeasing the likes of Trump is looney. The US justice system should bring Trump and his accomplices to justice starting on January 20, 2020.

NDPP

Why stop with Trump et al? There are plenty of criminal monsters in the American duopoly that should be held to acccount, including Democrats by the by.

josh

Jared Kushner approved the creation of a shell company that operated like a “campaign within a campaign” and secretly funneled millions of dollars in campaign cash to Trump family members, Business Insider reports. The company, American Made Media Consultants Corporation and American Made Media Consultants LLC, took more than half of the Trump campaign’s massive $1.26 billion war chest and was largely shielded from having to publicly report financial details.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jared-kushner-okd-trump-campaign-shell-company-that-secretly-paid-inner-circle-says-report?ref=home

JKR

NDPP wrote:

Why stop with Trump et al? There are plenty of criminal monsters in the American duopoly that should be held to acccount, including Democrats by the by.

There were criminals in the Weimar Republic but Hitler was a different story altogether. As it is, Trump is hoping to burn down the US's version of the Reichstag in order to hang on to power via a coup. With Hitler and Trump there's no appeasing malignant narcissism, sadism, psychopathy, racism, autocracy and fascism.

NDPP

'2020 Turnout is the Highest in Over a Century'

https://twitter.com/Bill_Binney/status/1340106702167961602

"With 212 Million registered voters and 66.2% voting, 140.344M voted. Now if Trump got 74M, that leaves only 66.344M for Biden. These numbers don't add up to what we're being told. Lies and more lies!"

 

Kunstler: The Gyre Widens

https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/the-gyre-widens/

"The mind-numbing weirdness of Joe Biden's insertion into the election of 2020 - like the furtive groping of an intern in a cloakroom - only signals the Democratic Party's reckless drive to self-destruction, dragging the republic over the edge of an abyss with it. How did this hollowed-out figure of a grifting old pol find himself pretending to national leadership, and in an historic moment of crisis that goes far beyond the mere wrecking of an election? Who wanted him there so badly, and why?

JKR

Warning: The above post is just more unhinged propaganda brought to you by the autocratic fascist Donald Trump and his deluded cult of personality.

josh
Michael Moriarity

Sadly, this ridiculous sort of statement is typical of Binney these days. His statements on the DNC hack are similarly based on nonsense.

Michael Moriarity

Meme found on a blog.

NDPP

Mo Brooks on 2020 Election: Massive Voter Fraud, Election Theft 'To a Degree Never Before Seen in the History' of the US

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/12/17/mo-brooks-on-2020-election-ma...

"...Rep Mo Brooks (R-AL) laid out his plans to challenge the results of the 2020 election when Congress convenes on January 6 to certify Joe Biden as the next President of the United States. The Alabama congressman said it was up to Congress, not the courts, to determine the November 3 election's legitimacy. Brooks declared a level of fraud and theft never experienced before in the history of the country..."

josh

He didn’t win the Election. He lost all 6 Swing States, by a lot. They then dumped hundreds of thousands of votes in each one, and got caught. Now Republican politicians have to fight so that their great victory is not stolen. Don’t be weak fools!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1340306154031857665?s=20

https://twitter.com/ASimplePatriot/status/1340312406833152002?s=208

For you NDPP.  #FightforTrump.

 

 

bekayne

NDPP wrote:

'2020 Turnout is the Highest in Over a Century'

https://twitter.com/Bill_Binney/status/1340106702167961602

"With 212 Million registered voters and 66.2% voting, 140.344M voted. Now if Trump got 74M, that leaves only 66.344M for Biden. These numbers don't add up to what we're being told. Lies and more lies!"

Here's the link he provides. 

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/number-of-registered-vo...

Go to the list of voters by each state. Look at the column on the right. Notice the date. Some of that information is over a year old (two years, in the case of Missouri). To use one example, Texas had 16, 211, 198 registered voters in March. On election day, 11, 315,056 voted there with a turnout of 66.73%. Which would mean there were 16,956,475 registered voters on E-day, an increase of  745,000.

Or...

66.73% of the number from March = 10,817,732. Biden got 5,259,126 votes in Texas. Which means Biden's % in Texas was actually 2.14% higher. Look! Proof of voter fraud in Texas!

 

NDPP

'74 Million Americans are Not Going to Shut Up': 2020 Election Irregularities Hearings (12/16/20)

https://youtu.be/1vFzd56lo6A

"Witnesses gave impassioned pleas to defend election integrity from fraud and abuse, while others claimed it was the safest election in history..."

josh

Perez then appeared in an apparently pre-taped segment, where he shot down various conspiratorial theories in response to questions from an off-camera, unidentified voice — not Dobbs’s.

The segment, it turns out, was in response to a 20-page legal demand letter that was sent this month by Smartmatic to Fox News Media. Similar letters went to Fox’s smaller competitors on the right, Newsmax and One America News Network. The letters demanded “a full and complete retraction of all false and defamatory statements and reports" aired by the network in its coverage of the Nov. 3 presidential election.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2020/12/19/lou-dobbs-debunk-fact-check-smartmatic/

josh

Another installment of, Crazy Sore Losers:

https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1340321144583426050?s=20

There is no provision in the Constitution that says if the loser of the election whines enough that the winner can't be inaugurated.

josh

President Trump on Friday discussed making Sidney Powell, who as a lawyer for his campaign team unleashed a series of conspiracy theories about a Venezuelan plot to rig voting machines in the United States, a special counsel investigating voter fraud, according to two people briefed on the discussion.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/19/us/politics/trump-sidney-powell-voter-fraud.html

 

melovesproles

I love how the Republican whiners, not satisfied with elections that allow their candidates to win despite losing the popular vote by millions of votes due to decades of gerrymandering, are so shameless that they think the 'democratic crisis' is that their hold on the rigged electoral college is being compromised by too many votes being counted in majority black districts.

The MSM media, both Liberal and Conservative, loves that this is what is dominating discussion. Anything that distracts from the dark money that has completely taken over US politics. Hopefully, the left can get over its obsession with this boring BS and can start to advance its own analysis and not just react to the talking points of Republican lawyers.

josh

Senior Trump administration officials are increasingly alarmed that President Trump might unleash — and abuse — the power of government in an effort to overturn the clear result of the election. 

These officials tell me that Trump is spending too much time with people they consider crackpots or conspiracy theorists and flirting with blatant abuses of power.

https://www.axios.com/trump-officials-alarmed-overturn-election-results-a844d1d2-acb2-47a9-87ce-ac579458b1ea.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=1100

kropotkin1951

Michael Moriarity wrote:

Meme found on a blog.

That is an integral part of the US electoral system. I remember years ago being gobsmacked when I understood that the candidates get to keep what they don't spend. Newt  Gingrich made a fortune playing that scam to perfection.  I am sure the Orange Herring understands that part of the grift as well.

josh

The president of the United States sat in the Oval Office last night discussing the clearly seditious suggestion of a convicted felon that he send in US troops and void the last presidential election. Alarms should be sounding. We've never faced a danger like this man.

https://twitter.com/djrothkopf/status/1340376307142684672?s=20

NDPP

Peter Navarro: If Election Investigation Reveals Voter Fraud, 'Americans Deserve a Different Outcome'

https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/12/18/peter-navarro-if-elec...

"My aspiration for this report is that it'll be a catalyst for a full investigation of all of these alleged election irregularities on a fast track and done before Inauguration Day,' Navarro said. 'And my view is that: let the truth come forward. And if Biden won fair and square, then I'll be the first to congratulate him.'

In his remarks during the call, Navarro said he is troubled that anyone who challenges the results of the election - including the 75 million Americans who voted for Trump - is rebuffed, even mocked. 'There seems to be a tremendous effort on the part of many of what should be our pillar institutions in this country to basically self-censor anybody who challenges the results of the election, and it effectively amounts to a coverup.' Navarro chastised the media for repeatedly reponding to these challenges by insisting there is no evidence. 'There's a ton of evidence. There's a mound of it...'

NDPP

Election Night Errors - How Did That Happen? (and vid)

https://rumble.com/vbu6xh-election-night-errors-how-did-that-happen.html

"Data scientists uncover and call into question the many errors from election night 2020."

 

How Explained (and vid)

https://twitter.com/a17time/status/1340620947636797441

 

'Live Free or Die - Stop the Coup!'

https://youtu.be/yMfXl9qZ5NM

"Arizona rallies call for election integrity."

JKR

NDPP is diligently supporting the autocratic Trump and his fascist cult of personality!

NDPP

Nonsense. I despise both US imperial duopoly parties. There's nothing 'progressive' about either. The thread encompasses the news and competing narratives of the US election and its divided and conflicted aftermath. We're Canadians in Canada in case you've forgotten. Stop hallucinating that you're an American Democrat partisan and stop trying to force me to go along with your pathetic pro-Biden msm narrative.

JKR

Stop supporting Trumps's fascism.

Michael Moriarity

NDPP, quoting Peter Navarro wrote:

Navarro chastised the media for repeatedly reponding to these challenges by insisting there is no evidence. 'There's a ton of evidence. There's a mound of it...'

Not nearly as good a metaphor as Sidney Powell's "firehose of evidence". Strangely, this surfeit of "evidence" has not been able to convince even Trump appointed judges that there is any cause of action. What do you think you are accomplishing by posting these ridiculous lies? Just trolling Josh and JKR?

josh

Televangelist Pat Robertson declares that Biden will be president and that Trump "lives in an alternate reality," "is very erratic," and should not run again in 2024: "You've had your day and it's time to move on."

https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1341122230026178561?s=20

Even Pat Robertson is more in touch with reality than some on here.

NDPP

WATCH: "After 4 years of being told the last election was fake, the same people are telling us if you have any concerns about election integrity you're a nut case, sit down and shut up. That is not a recipe for success in this country."

https://twitter.com/SenRonJohnson/status/1341078212068200451

JKR

So now NDPP's supporting the U.S. Republican senators who are supporting fascist President Trump?!?!?!

JKR

Reports of martial law talk in White House meeting spark outrage in Washington, denial from Donald Trump; South China Morning Post; December 21, 2020

Quote:

With one month to go until Joe Biden takes office, Donald Trump remains fixated on his failed bid to overturn the 2020 election – with his advisers reportedly floating the idea of invoking martial law, triggering outrage and disbelief in Washington.

...

But accounts of the extraordinary meeting – which reportedly devolved at times into “screaming matches” – raised eyebrows across Washington, drawing strong condemnation from some quarters while others were left shaking their heads in dismay.

Luckily there are many standing up against Trump's fascism.

 

 

Mobo2000

Yes, as JKR notes there are many strong fighters against Trump's fascism around.   The purpose of the article posted at 1482 is to rehabilitate mainstream Republicans as responsible actors in the great American democracy.   It gives us a few anti-fascist heroes to admire:   

"“It’s not going to happen,” the Republican senator and frequent Trump critic Mitt Romney said bluntly on CNN’s State of the Union, adding, “It’s going nowhere.”

 John Bolton, a former Trump national security adviser who has been a frequent critic since leaving the administration in September, called the meeting’s reported contents “appalling”.  “There’s no other way to describe it,” he told CNN late Saturday. “It’s unbelievable – almost certainly completely without precedent.”  But he also said such talk was not atypical from his former boss – and a case of “incompetence” rather than “malevolence.”  Bolton added: “He is unfit for the job.”

“There is no role for the US military in determining the outcome of an American election,” Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy and Army Chief of Staff James McConville said in a statement Friday.

Mobo:   Great statement by McCarthy and McConville.   No role for the US military in determining the outcome of an American election.   Absolutely awesome.   Glad they were specific,  must be a relief to the antifascist forces in Washington to know there are many possible roles for the US military in non-American elections.  

josh
josh

Michigan Senate GOP Leader Mike Shirkey on legislative election inquiry: “Our investigation, which has been very intense, discovered none, none of the allegations and accusations against Dominion (are) true.”

https://twitter.com/jonathanoosting/status/1341453191213400068?s=20

 

josh

It’s a preview of the burgeoning rift between two groups of Trump supporters: Those who will stand with him to subvert the outcome of the election, no matter what, and those who are accepting the results of the democratic process.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/22/trump-final-loyalty-test-election-450183

NDPP

Chairman's Executive Summary of the Election Law Study Subcommittee of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Atlanta Georgia (Dec 19, 2020)

http://www.senatorligon.com

"The November 3, 2020 General Election ('The Election') was chaotic and any reported results must be viewed as untrustworthy. The subcommittee took evidence from witnesses and received affidavits sworn under oath..."

 

"See this video for an update on the Navarro Report -- 'Immaculate Deception'. Michigan has as many as 379,000 potentially illegal votes, more than twice the alleged Biden victory margin."

https://twitter.com/RealPNavarro/status/1341196056156123137

NDPP

We Are All We've Got: Why Mutual Aid is More Critical than Ever (and vid)

https://therealnews.com/we-are-all-weve-got-why-mutual-aid-is-more-criti...

"It is abundantly clear the cavalry is not coming; we are on our own..."

JKR

NDPP wrote:

Chairman's Executive Summary of the Election Law Study Subcommittee of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Atlanta Georgia (Dec 19, 2020)

http://www.senatorligon.com

"The November 3, 2020 General Election ('The Election') was chaotic and any reported results must be viewed as untrustworthy. The subcommittee took evidence from witnesses and received affidavits sworn under oath..."

 

"See this video for an update on the Navarro Report -- 'Immaculate Deception'. Michigan has as many as 379,000 potentially illegal votes, more than twice the alleged Biden victory margin."

https://twitter.com/RealPNavarro/status/1341196056156123137

In other words Fuhrer Trump doesn't have to respect mere votes of the people and if Congress doesn't fall into line the Congress building should be burned down like the Reichstag was. And as Trump has already stated, he should be President for life just like his boss Vlad Putin. And anybody that crosses Fuhrer Trump will suffer the consequences.

kropotkin1951

I think that the electoral system in the States is so fucked up that there was deliberate attempts at manipulation and possibly outright fraud from both sides of the duo-oply. I do not think that any of them were significant enough to have affected the outcome. In Canada even if you prove that there was fraud in an election the results are not over turned unless it can be shown that the fraud would have had a material affect. So if you stuff five ballots in a box illegally but the winner won by a hundred votes it is irrelevant, except for charging the perp who stuffed the ballot box. Seems to me that Trump's lawyers are doing what all good lawyers do, which is to argue their clients case no matter that it has little to no merit.

The Orange Herring does not think he can overturn the election but only a top notch grifter would think of a way to get his supporters to send in campaign donations after the election is over. His grifter family will not pay for their crimes any more than the Bush family paid for supporting Hitler during WWII.

NDPP

Dozens of Georgia Witnesses Step Forward to Expose Election Irregularities

https://youtu.be/3RV57sFsojA

Over 40 witnesses spoke to the media at Cobb County, Georgia on Dec 9,10,13,14. They presented evidence of election irregularities and fraud they had collected during the 2020 election ballot counts and recount.

NDPP

PA Lawmakers: Numbers Don't Add Up, Certification of Presidential Results Premature and In Error

http://www.repdiamond.com/News/18754/Latest-News/PA-Lawmakers-Numbers-Don

"HARRISBURG - A group of state lawmakers performing extensive analysis of election data today revealed troubling discrepancies between the numbers of total votes counted and total number of voters who voted in the 2020 General Election, and as a result of questioning how the results of the presidential election could possibly have been certified...'These numbers just don't add up, and the alleged certification of Pennsylvania's presidential election results was absolutely premature, unconfirmed and in error..."

JKR

What will people who believe in these outlandish conspiracy theories do when Biden becomes president?

josh

NDPP will be in mourning over Trump's departure.

bekayne

NDPP wrote:

PA Lawmakers: Numbers Don't Add Up, Certification of Presidential Results Premature and In Error

http://www.repdiamond.com/News/18754/Latest-News/PA-Lawmakers-Numbers-Don

"HARRISBURG - A group of state lawmakers performing extensive analysis of election data today revealed troubling discrepancies between the numbers of total votes counted and total number of voters who voted in the 2020 General Election, and as a result of questioning how the results of the presidential election could possibly have been certified...'These numbers just don't add up, and the alleged certification of Pennsylvania's presidential election results was absolutely premature, unconfirmed and in error..."

https://wjactv.com/news/local/pa-republican-lawmakers-analysis-finds-pre...

The Pennsylvania Department of State released the following statement in response to the Republicans' claims:

"We are unclear as to what data the legislators used for this most recent “analysis.” But the only way to determine the number of voters who voted in November from the SURE system is through the vote histories. At this time, there are still a few counties that have not completed uploading their vote histories to the SURE system. These counties, which include Philadelphia, Allegheny, Butler and Cambria, would account for a significant number of voters. The numbers certified by the counties, not the uploading of voter histories into the SURE system, determines the ultimate certification of an election by the secretary.

"This obvious misinformation put forth by Rep. Ryan and others is the hallmark of so many of the claims made about this year’s presidential election. When exposed to even the simplest examination, courts at every level have found these and similar conspiratorial claims to be wholly without basis.

"To put it simply, this so-called analysis was based on incomplete data."

 

NDPP

Kunstler: In Darkness Visible

https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/in-darkness-visible/

"The signals from the political establishment ring pretty clear now: get thee hence thou big-bottomed orange menace to order and sanctity!...The Golden Golem of Greatness is not fading away from the Swamp crime scene no matter which way this thing turns out. And don't forget, he is not exactly alone. Tens of millions of extremely pissed-off Americans are standing-by pretty quietly, for now, from sea to shining sea behind him."

josh

The unprecedented review of signatures on absentee ballot envelopes found that the Cobb Elections Department had “a 99.99% accuracy rate in performing correct signature verification procedures” and no fraudulent absentee votes, Georgia’s top elections official says

https://twitter.com/bluestein/status/1344062443727839234?s=20

 

NDPP

Hawley Statement on Objecting During Electoral College Certification Process on January 6

https://twitter.com/HawleyMO/status/1344307458085412867

"Millions of voters concerned about election integrity deserve to be better heard. I will object on January 6th on their behalf..."

JKR
NDPP

Trump Team Wants to Present 'Specific Evidence' on Jan 6 (and vid)

https://www.theepochtimes.com/trump-team-wants-to-present-specific-evide...

"...President Donald Trump's team is seeking to present alleged evidence of voter fraud or irregularities in the Nov 3 election, including law changes regarding mail-in ballots in Wisconsin, 'suitcases of ballots' in Georgia being wheeled out late at night on Nov 3 in Atlanta's State Farm Center, and being blocked in Arizona and Michigan from inspecting voting systems, alleging that ballots were counted several times. 'These are the specific types of evidence we want to present to the American people on the national stage and not allow local politicians to sweep it under the rug,' Miller said..."

JKR

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