New Zealand's Prime Minister Is One of the Most Effective Leaders on Planet Earth. That will teach her!

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New Zealand's Prime Minister Is One of the Most Effective Leaders on Planet Earth. That will teach her!
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Check the date Canadians and weep!

New Zealand PM Jacinda Ardern bans entry of Indian travellers due to COVID-19 surge

The suspension will start from 1600 local time on April 11 and will be in place until April 28, Ardern said in a news conference

twitter-logoReuters | April 8, 2021 | Updated 09:21 IST

 

 

https://www.businesstoday.in/current/economy-politics/new-zealand-pm-jac...

kropotkin1951

What a white supremacist anti-Asian view of the world. Look!! A woman who looks like me is making the same decisions that brown people are being successful with, so she must be the best leader in the world. All hail the white savior.

NorthReport

New Zealand's Prime Minister may be the most effective leader on the planet

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/04/jacinda-ardern-new-...

NorthReport

New Zealand pauses travel bubble with Western Australia after virus case

https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2021/04/24/new-zealand-pauses-travel...

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kropotkin1951

I think that many countries are doing well at fighting the pandemic. It is only places like Canada where we keep insisting half measures are good enough. Our pandemic response is consistent with our responses to climate change over the last thirty years. Talk and talk and talk and then praise a photogenic young white women for showing us the way, while doing nothing that they suggest. Here are some well thought out rules on the treatment of foreigners that should be applied to those who want to come to Canada.

Quarantining in China

Passengers (whether or not you have the COVID-19 vaccine) are required to be quarantined for 14 days at an assembly site.

Upon arrival, you will fill out a Declaration of Health, have your body temperature measured, and have a nucleic acid test at the airport.

You will be sent to a hotel assigned by the government directly from the airport.

The expenses during the quarantine period are normally about CN¥400–600 (for board and lodging) per day in the hotel and at your own cost.

Can I Choose the Hotel for Quarantine?

The quarantined hotels are assigned by the government. In general, you can't choose among the designated quarantined hotels.

If you're traveling with family or a partner, you could ask the staff to help arrange your quarantine in the same hotel.

Can Couples Stay in One Room?

It depends on each hotel’s requirements. Some hotels allow couples or families to live in one room, while some require each person to stay in a single room. (In general, children under the age of 14 can be quarantined with a parent.)

You can only know the specific requirements when you arrive at the hotel.

What if the City I Enter is not My Final Destination?

Passengers are required to be quarantined in their entry city.

For example, if you enter China at Guangzhou from Sydney on your way to Beijing, you should quarantine in Guangzhou for 14 days. After your 14-day quarantine in Guangzhou (if your quarantine test results are normal), you could then head to Beijing.

When you arrive in Beijing, usually you wouldn’t need to carry out a 14-day quarantine again, but 7-day home quarantine and 7-day health monitoring (a total of 14 days) may be required. Every city has slightly different requiremets.

  • Home quarantine means staying at home and not being able to go out.
  • Health monitoring means you can go out to work, but not to join in parties and other group activities.

Can I Travel Around When the 14-Day Quarantine Ends?

When the quarantine is over and all test results are normal, you will receive a negative nucleic acid test result and a certificate of release from centralized quarantine.

Then you could go on to your residence or another hotel. You would need to report to the community/hotel and follow their quarantine requirements (normally home quarantine or health monitoring) for a further 7 days.

Inter-area/province travel may require extra quarantining, depending on local infection rates.

After finishing all quarantine requirements and being based in a certain area, you may live, work, and travel normally.

China’s Domestic Travel Restrictions

Foreign people now in China can travel in China as long as they have the required documents including ID (usually passport) and a green health code.

Now all areas in China are in low risk.You don't need to be quarantined for an inter-area/province travel in China.

https://www.chinahighlights.com/travelguide/china-travel-reopen-restrict...

NorthReport

Which Countries Have Responded Best to Covid-19?

The world should learn from the most successful strategies for testing, quarantine, public communication and economic support.

 

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/which-countries-have-responded-best-to-covi...

kropotkin1951

The Wall Street Journal is one of the main organs of the US establishment. Its good of you to come on this left leaning discussion forum to amplify the oligarchy's message, its not like its readily available anywhere else. This biased opinion piece is written by Dr. Frieden  a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations.

The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), founded in 1921, is a United States nonprofit think tank specializing in U.S. foreign policy and international affairs. It is headquartered in New York City, with an additional office in Washington, D.C. Its membership, which numbers 5,103, has included senior politicians, more than a dozen secretaries of state, CIA directors, bankers, lawyers, professors, and senior media figures.

CFR meetings convene government officials, global business leaders and prominent members of the intelligence and foreign-policy community to discuss international issues. CFR has published the bi-monthly journal Foreign Affairs since 1922, and runs the David Rockefeller Studies Program, which influences foreign policy by making recommendations to the presidential administration and diplomatic community, testifying before Congress, interacting with the media, and publishing on foreign policy issues.

voice of the damned

Kropotkin:

Which viewpoints of the US oligarchy do you think are being promoted in that article? Just for starters, Taiwan and South Korea come in for high praise, and I know you yourself have commended both those nations for their approach to covid-19.

And I would assume that most progressives would agree with the writer that governments should cover the wages of economically disadvantaged private-sector workers, as was apparently done in Denmark.

And FWIW, the only place in the USA that gets praised is American Samoa, and that praise is only relative to the rest of the US.

voice of the damned

And then there's this...

A successful response to Covid-19 turned out to depend on more than a country’s wealth, scientific prowess and history of public health successes. The U.S. enjoys all of these advantages but mounted one of the worst responses to the pandemic: 1 in every 990 Americans has died from Covid-19 since the pandemic began. Bad politics, quite simply, can trump good public health.

Other developed countries that did well initially, such as Canada and some European nations, have faltered during the second or third surge of infections, because their governments and people grew tired of implementing effective strategies. In many Asian countries, it has long been common for people to wear masks when feeling ill, so they adopted masks early and widely.

Best at early action: Taiwan

So, no. Hardly unqualified praise for the USA and its white-majority western allies.

kropotkin1951

voice of the damned

It is that North Report posted it directly in response to my pointing out the Chinese response. His response to actual factual information about what a country was doing, that is now essentially back to normal, was to post a report from a US author, paid by the regime change industry, that doesn't mention China. His gushing belief that because this American shill says these are the most successful strategies in the world they are is why I pointed out the source. NR posted it to prove that China is irrelevant in the conversation about best practices because the WSJ says its so.

Propaganda is often as much about what is highlighted and what is omitted in a piece as much as whether or not the basic facts are true.

NorthReport

New Zealand's Ardern Says Differences With China Becoming Harder to Reconcile

 

https://www.voanews.com/east-asia-pacific/new-zealands-ardern-says-diffe...

kropotkin1951

NorthReport wrote:

New Zealand's Ardern Says Differences With China Becoming Harder to Reconcile

 

https://www.voanews.com/east-asia-pacific/new-zealands-ardern-says-diffe...

For those that like to read more than headlines, this is an interesting piece. New Zealand is between a rock and its biggest trading partner.

The comments come as New Zealand faces pressure from some elements among Western allies over its reluctance to use the Five Eyes intelligence and security alliance, which includes Australia, Britain, Canada and the United States as well as New Zealand, to criticize Beijing.
 
Foreign Affairs Minister Nanaia Mahuta said last month she was uncomfortable expanding the role of Five Eyes.
 
China, New Zealand's largest trading partner, has accused the Five Eyes of ganging up on China by issuing statements on Hong Kong and the treatment of ethnic Muslim Uyhgurs in Xinjiang.
 
Ardern said New Zealand would continue to speak about these issues individually as well as through its partners. Managing the relationship with China is not always going to be easy and "there can be no guarantees", Ardern added.
 

https://oec.world/en/profile/bilateral-country/chn/partner/nzl

NDPP

New Zealand says it will set China policy not US-led Five Eyes

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/4/19/new-zealand-says-it-will-set-ch...

"New Zealand will not let the United States led Five Eyes alliance dictate its dealings with China, the Pacific nation's foreign minister said on Monday, adding that Wellington is 'uncomfortable' with expanding the remit of the intelligence grouping, which also includes the UK, Australia and Canada. 'We don't favour that type of approach and have expressed this to Five Eyes partners..."

 

Five Eyes Today's Axis of White Supremacy

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202102/1216338.html

"Canada, the UK and Australia, three members of the Five Eyes Alliance, have recently taken action to put pressure on China. They have formed a US-centered, racist and mafia-styled community...trying to consolidate their hegemony as all ganstgers do. They are becoming a racist axis aimed at stifling the development rights of 1.4 b Chinese..."

Good for NZ. Perhaps Five Eyes has at least one member that still has a brain and can stand up to US domination unlike Canada who licks and slobbers over the American boot at every opportunity (especially if it's a Democrat one), and where some deluded Canadian 'leftists' actually cheer this on.

NorthReport

A terrible loss for women, and another win for toxic masculinity

New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern’s resignation was shattering for many of us around the world and is just one more blow to women’s rights, Heather Mallick writes.

 

 

https://www.thestar.com/politics/political-opinion/2023/01/21/a-terrible...

NorthReport

 

 

 

Canada's looking for a new leader.....

New Zealand’s Jacinda Ardern has many possibilities for a second act

When Jacinda Ardern announced this week she was stepping down as New Zealand’s prime minister, speculation began almost immediately about what she might do for a second act.

 

 

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/australia/2023/01/19/new-zealands-ard...

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Paladin1

Who said this famous totally non-fascist line:

"We will continue to be your single source of truth. Unless you hear it from us, it is not the truth."

Jacinda Arden, Prime Minister of New Zealand,

or

Adam Sutle, High Chancellor of Britian in V For Vendetta.

6079_Smith_W

Oh FFS. Context - especially the context of trying to stop mass deaths and the collapse of their healthcare system.

I can see how it might be a "fascist threat" for those living in la la land, or the propagandists who are happy keeping people there.

I don't consider you either Paladin, so why?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/jacinda-ardern-truth/

"We must stop humoring anti-scientific rumormongering about issues like vaccines," and that "misinformation about vaccinations should generally be rejected."

kropotkin1951

New Zealand's incoming prime minister Chris Hipkins criticized the "abhorrent" treatment endured by Jacinda Ardern and vowed on Sunday to shield his own family, three days after her shock resignation.

She is exhausted and taking out the COVID baggage for her party. Unlike in Canada when a PM resignation triggers a leadership campaign and endless talk the Kiwi's use the British system so ruling parties stay in government seamlessly when a leader resigns. I think the new PM will do well if he can take back the economic file from the right wing.

Hours after being unanimously endorsed by Labour Party MPs as the party's leader and the nation's next prime minister, Hipkins attacked the personal abuse suffered by Ardern during her more than five years in the top job.

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New Zealand under his leadership will switch its focus from Covid-19 to bolstering the economy, Hipkins said.

The cost of living, rising inflation and workforce shortages have been blamed in part for Labour's decline in the polls since 2020, now surpassed by the centre-right National Party opposition.

"Covid-19 and the global pandemic created a health crisis. Now it's created an economic one and that's where my government's focus will be," Hipkins said.

The incoming New Zealand leader promised to tackle rising crime levels, too.

"We know we've got more work to do when it comes to re-engaging young people, to tackle the underlying causes of criminal offending."

Hipkins also announced the country will have its first deputy prime minister of Pacific island descent, Carmel Sepuloni.

https://www.rawstory.com/next-new-zealand-pm-slams-abhorrent-treatment-o...

I never knew that the term Pasifika existed.

Paladin1

The context I see is a government telling citizens that they are the only source of truth and not to trust anyone else. That's a bold statement to make and just wrong. The specific topic seems irrelevant.

She's right about misinformation and vaccines, but the just trust us line is a dangerous slope.

 

New Zealand is heading downhill. Lots of dire predictions and projections. Ardens popularity has plummeted to near-record lows. When she took over as Prime Minister the country's crime rate was at an annual decrease of -30%. 2 years later it exploded to a 253% increase and continuing to rise.

 

 

 

kropotkin1951

You appear to be confusing correlation with causation. So what specific laws or regulations changed under her government that you believe caused the rise in crime?

Paladin1

kropotkin1951 wrote:
You appear to be confusing correlation with causation. So what specific laws or regulations changed under her government that you believe caused the rise in crime?

I find "Confusing correlation with causation" as an immediate defense is overused. Sometimes it's an accurate assessment, other times it's not.

I have no idea what caused the 253% increase in crime in the 2 years she took over as Prime Minister. Maybe it was the price of butter. Our own Prime Minister has a similar story when it comes to the increase in violent crime since getting elected.

That's the burden of leadership that people bear in these situations. She's the PM and there is almost a 300% increase in crime in 2 years, and that was 2021 so how much worse is it now? Rightly or wrongly people look to her because she's the boss. The lefty people I know in NZ have a very poor opinion of her and think she's authoritarian.

I'm sure she does get abused because people are assholes. Her going away speech is a typical "it's someone elses fault" which conveniently circumvents her plummeting popularity and near-record low approval rating coming into an election she isn't expected to win.

kropotkin1951

When she took over as Prime Minister the country's crime rate was at an annual decrease of -30%. 2 years later it exploded to a 253% increase and continuing to rise.

This sentence implicitly implies she is in someway responsible despite the fact that you have no idea. Typical right wing talking points about any leader who is not right wing. I don't for a moment think that you know enough left wing people in New Zealand to actually form a reasonable opinion based on their anecdotal evidence but that is also very typical right wing evidence used against non right wingers. You seem to have a problem with the basics of evidentiary logic.

I have no idea what caused the 253% increase in crime in the 2 years she took over as Prime Minister.

Paladin1

kropotkin1951 wrote:

This sentence implicitly implies she is in someway responsible

That's my assumption yes. If not responsible, then still accountable.

kropotkin1951 wrote:
Typical right wing

Stereotyping and in-group favoritism bias.

kropotkin1951 wrote:
I don't for a moment think that you know enough left wing people in New Zealand to actually form a reasonable opinion based on their anecdotal evidence

I agree with you 100%

kropotkin1951 wrote:
but that is also very typical right wing

Stereotyping and in-group favoritism bias.

kropotkin1951 wrote:
You seem to have a problem with the basics of evidentiary logic.

Blind spot bias.

6079_Smith_W

Paladin1 wrote:

The context I see is a government telling citizens that they are the only source of truth and not to trust anyone else. That's a bold statement to make and just wrong. The specific topic seems irrelevant.

She's right about misinformation and vaccines, but the just trust us line is a dangerous slope.

That isn't what context means. Context concerns the specific circumstances, which in this case is the need to contain lies during a deadly health emergency.

Pretending it is about crime or anything else, is taking it out of context. She wasn't talking about crime, and there is no "slippery slope".

Do you see her making any similar declarations about crime? No. You are making that up.

"If a statement or remark is quoted out of context, the circumstances in which it was said are not correctly reported, so that it seems to mean something different from the meaning that was intended."

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/out-of-context

It is in fact a logical fallacy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quoting_out_of_context

Your claim has no foundation, so time to stop digging.

Paladin1

6079_Smith_W wrote:

That isn't what context means. Context concerns the specific circumstances, which in this case is the need to contain lies during a deadly health emergency.


After taking time to consider it I see your point about context. The context of the statement was to thwart misinformation about covid 19.

6079_Smith_W wrote:
Pretending it is about crime or anything else, is taking it out of context. She wasn't talking about crime, and there is no "slippery slope".

I didn't do a good enough job separating my comments here. What I said about crime rates was generalized and in response to her overall leadership and popularity not about the source of truth line.

I do think the "we're your only source of the truth" is still a slippery slope that can easily be manipulated and applied to any number of topics. I still find it an authoritarian comment to make.

Douglas Fir Premier

Paladin1 wrote:

The lefty people I know in NZ have a very poor opinion of her

The Auklander author of this Jacobin piece would seem to share in that view.

Jacinda Ardern’s Leadership Was a Cautionary Tale of Liberal Inaction

Throughout her tenure, Ardern has had to endure a lot of ugly, misogynistic vitriol, along with the usual concerted business opposition that Labour leaders face for so much as lightly tinkering with the system. But in the end, Ardern’s greatest obstacles were self-inflicted, the result of conservative political choices that fatally narrowed her options.

Rather than follow through on the bold campaign promises that got her elected in the first place, Ardern and her finance minister, Grant Robertson, quickly pivoted to prioritizing fiscal responsibility. Upon winning their first election, they adopted spending rules that amounted to a “fiscal straitjacket,” and spent the next six years boasting, often to luncheons of assembled business leaders, how little they were spending and how much debt they were paying down.

This could have at least been coupled with a revenue-raising strategy that also attacked the country’s ballooning wealth inequality. But Ardern and her government preemptively ruled out any commonsense measure for this purpose: no general wealth tax, no inheritance tax, no higher tax rate for tax-avoiding trusts, and of course, no capital gains or windfall profits taxes. Refusing to embark on deficit spending but unwilling to tax the rich, Ardern effectively snookered herself.

It was a dilemma Ardern tried to occasionally solve through austerity, such as an unpopular pay freeze on public sector workers, or through regressive tax hikes on working Kiwis. The result of these measures was a desperate hunt for revenue, which ironically led her government into treacherous political waters anyway. Contrary to her energizing 2017 campaign slogan, “Let’s do this!” the joke quickly became that it was harder to list what Ardern’s government would do than what it wouldn’t. Ruled out at various times from the Ardern playbook was everything from free dental care to exempting fruit and vegetables from the country’s regressive sales tax, a policy Labour had once campaigned on in 2011. Despite declaring that “neoliberalism had failed,” Ardern ended up doing little to solve the debilitating crises resulting from neoliberal policies.

This was often explained away in Ardern’s first term, not unfairly, by pointing to Labour’s coalition with the conservative New Zealand First party, which acted as a “handbrake” to her transformative ambitions. But Ardern had no excuse after the historic mandate she won in the 2020 election, giving Labour an outright majority in parliament, a first under the Mixed Member Proportional system introduced in 1996.

It’s hard to overstate the scale of political opportunity Ardern had at her fingertips beginning in 2020. In a system of parliamentary supremacy like New Zealand’s, there is no filibuster, no right-wing council of elders, not even a written constitution, that could have halted the ambitions of Ardern’s Labour. Her party had the votes to pass whatever it wanted, a historically popular leader, and overwhelming public trust and goodwill thanks to its successful steering through a world-historical crisis. The Labour Party that introduced neoliberalism to New Zealand in 1984 had far less than this going for it when it ruthlessly dismantled and overhauled New Zealand’s political economy, only for the worse. What would Ardern’s Labour do to reverse this for the better?

Not all that much, it turned out, as she proceeded to continue on the incremental path of operating as the leftmost edge of post-1980s neoliberalism. After first using her mandate to try to cut the pay of government workers, she delivered a budget depicted by the press as “dyed the deepest red” and framed by her party as reversing National’s transformatively cruel 1991 budget. Its centerpiece? A supposedly “biggest in a generation” welfare boost that even one of the country’s leading business groups thought was too stingy.