Coronavirus: what Canadians need to know

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NDPP

'Obscene to put profits before saving lives'

https://on.rt.com/b8jq

"Nine new Big Pharma billionaires emerge amid COVID-19 vaccine rollout."

Definitely will require a full and indpendent public inquiry to look into all aspects of the pandemic in Canada. One can already tell it's going to be greasy...

NorthReport

It's a theory.

What the world needs are scientific answers as to the origins of the pandemic known officially as SARS-CoV-2, but can be called SARS2 for short, not deflections. 

The origin of COVID: Did people or nature open Pandora’s box at Wuhan?

 

 

Members of the World Health Organization (WHO) team investigating the origins of the COVID-19 coronavirus arrive by car at the Wuhan Institute of Virology on February 3. (Photo by HECTOR RETAMAL/AFP via Getty Images) Members of the World Health Organization (WHO) team investigating the origins of the COVID-19 coronavirus arrive by car at the Wuhan Institute of Virology on February 3. (Photo by HECTOR RETAMAL/AFP via Getty Images)

I’ll describe the two theories, explain why each is plausible, and then ask which provides the better explanation of the available facts. It’s important to note that so far there is no direct evidence for either theory. Each depends on a set of reasonable conjectures but so far lacks proof. So I have only clues, not conclusions, to offer. But those clues point in a specific direction. And having inferred that direction, I’m going to delineate some of the strands in this tangled skein of disaster.

 

https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature...

 

kropotkin1951

North Report you are posting COVID fake news that is planted to promote regime change in a peaceful nation. Just because it comes from the Democratic side of the MSM in the imperial heartland does not change its purpose nor fundamental content.

NDPP

How many times are you going to post this?

NorthReport

The US has provided funding to the Wuhan Lab 

It is a scientific theory.

Address the science and stop deflecting. 

NorthReport

Patents were once seen as a temporary reward for inventors. Now, as novelist Cory Doctorow tells Jacobin, they've become supposedly inviolable "intellectual property" rights that simply enrich people like Bill Gates.

 

If nothing else, the COVID-19 pandemic has been an incredibly instructive case study in what the neoliberal dogma that now governs our waking lives really means when stripped of artifice or pretense. As things stand, just a handful of profit-driven private companies currently control the knowledge and expertise required to produce vaccines — with people in many poorer countries not expected to be vaccinated until at least 2024. It didn’t have to be this way, of course.

Enabled by a monopolistic global intellectual property (IP) regime and with a tip of the hat to billionaire Bill Gates, Big Pharma and its political allies have largely succeeded in controlling and defining the narrative during the early vaccine rollout — transforming the prospective solution to a global crisis into yet another occasion for narrow corporate profit, in this case at the expense of public health and a speedy end to the pandemic.

The ground, however, may slowly be shifting. With the Biden administration’s recent announcement that it will support a waiver of IP protections for COVID vaccines, worldwide moral outrage toward vaccine apartheid may finally be having an impact. As for Gates himself, the billionaire is currently experiencing a messy divorce and may be facing the most serious crisis for his meticulously crafted personal image since the antitrust actions of the 1990s.

Author and science fiction writer Cory Doctorow is a longtime critic of restrictive intellectual property laws and the ideology that inspires them. In a wide-ranging conversation, Jacobin’s Luke Savage spoke to Doctorow about the history of the phrase “intellectual property,” Bill Gates’s dogged commitment to monopolism, and the psyches of the global super-rich.

 

https://jacobinmag.com/2021/05/cory-doctorow-interview-bill-gates-intell...

NorthReport

Who is financing this?

 

Keynote speaker at this weekend's Vancouver antimask rally, Chris Sky, charged with uttering death threats

Toronto police allege that the man also known as Chris Saccoccia declared an intention to shoot a member of the public and elected officials

To date, Vancouver police have not fined organizers of antimask rallies in opposition to public health orders, unlike the RCMP in Kelowna.

In January, some B.C. nurses posted an online petition expressing dismay over the VPD refusal to issue $2,300 fines under the COVID-19 Related Measures Act.

https://www.straight.com/covid-19/pandemic/news/keynote-speaker-at-sunda...

NorthReport

Here’s Why Communities Become COVID Hotspots

We dug into health reports and census data to find why some neighbourhoods are hardest hit. And it’s not bad luck or carelessness.

 

https://thetyee.ca/News/2021/05/20/Vancouver-Fraser-Valley-COVID-Hotspots/

NDPP

[quote=NorthReport]

The US has provided funding to the Wuhan Lab 

It is a scientific theory.

Address the science and stop deflecting. 

 

[quote=NDPP]

But there is no science, just a fucking mishmash of 'maybe's', 'probably was', 'could be's etc. No surprise at all to find the writer comes from the NYT and in line with US strategic, anti-China propaganda messaging.

The article omits any mention that the virus was identified from sewage sampling to have already been  circulating in USA and Europe at least as early as October 2019, perhaps earlier. Multiple determinative peer-reviewed research studies have concluded as well,  that coronavirus has a naturally occurring origin. But if NR's toxic sinophobia obsession is to be endlessly reiterated here, please know there are alternative speculations to choose from:

The Fort Detrick horror: a closer look at the US' largest biochemical weapons research center

https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1189967.shtml

"Experts slammed the US for its evasive, ostrich-like attitude towards rising calls for a UAMRIID investigation, while slandering a laboratory in China's Wuhan city for 'originating' the coronavirus..."

NorthReport

Fortunately the world's scientific community, by following science, as opposed to vested interests and their media such as above, or rambling idiots, will eventually discover the pandemic's origins. A scientific approach would explore all possibilities.

Having Daszak involved in the investigation has raised red flags, and appears to have been a serious mistake. It has been said by some that it would be like putting Donald Trump in charge of the investigation of Russian hacking of the 2016 election.

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The Pro-Trump Culture War on American Scientists

Some are trying to turn the lab-leak theory into a potent political weapon.

The Biden administration can defeat this squalid scheme to convert a real-world problem into a culture-war battlefield by acting fast and tough to take possession of the truth about the virus. If the current knowledge of the truth is ambiguous, it’s okay to say that too—and to say it loud, say it clear, and say it frequently. The faster that problem is transferred from self-seeking outrage merchants to rational actors who can actually do something about it, the better for the United States and the world.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/05/chinese-lab-coronaviru...

 

 

 

Pondering

NorthReport wrote:
Most people would prefer this does not reoccur so we just need to follow the science to try and prevent that from happening. It is indeed unfortunate that Trump jumped on the anti-China non-scientific approach which has seriously skewed the discussion. But as the period of time increases from when he had his presidential megaphone the scientific aspects of the covid origins are coming to the fore. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/19/cdc-chief-says-lab-based-origin-of-covid...

If you read the article by far the most likely explanation is the usual one. Animal to human contact. There is no science to follow. There is no evidence that it came from a lab. Of course it is possible. A lot of things are possible. It is also possible that it was spread by US military. Or, a false flag event. There are lots of possibilities. 

China warned the world and we all had intelligence in China who were aware of the outbreaks. Our governments were all well informed and they failed us regardless of how it started. This was not at all a concealed event. We saw what was happening in Wuhan and we tracked the spread.

Even if it escaped from a lab we are the ones who spread it far and wide not China.

NDPP

"Canadians, you want normal life bavck. The quickest, easiest path back: get vaccinated and make sure your friends and family get vaccinated too. We can close the door on this effing pandemic, and that's the easiest way to do it."

https://twitter.com/DFisman/status/1395388987066535940

NDPP

COVID Canada Update: 5/20/2021

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/

  • Ontario reveals 3-step opening plan
  • sickKids hospital reveals COVID-19 outbreak on paediatric/respiratory unit
  • impatience, lack of clarity as clock ticks on AstraZeneca expiry date
  • G20 leaders to back COVID-19 vaccine voluntary licensing but no patent waiver
NDPP

Dr John Campbell: Coronavirus Update: 5/20/2021

https://youtu.be/M2YvIVkcJFk

Thursday update: 'Canada still has a way to go...' Nepal and India still bad. Third vaccine booster-dose this winter?'

NDPP

A New Infectious Coronavirus is Detected in Malaysia

https://twitter.com/angie_rasmussen/status/1395437948271833088

"First report of zoonotic transmission of a canine coronavirus. There's no data suggesting this is something to worry about (no evidence of human-to-human transmission), but it does show that zoonotic spillover happens a lot more often than we realize."

eastnoireast

NorthReport wrote:

The US has provided funding to the Wuhan Lab 

It is a scientific theory.

Address the science and stop deflecting. 

northreport and i agree on something !!

NorthReport

It appears that the Mojiang Mine details need a thorough scientific airing.

A Chinese PhD Thesis sheds important new light on the origin of the Covid-19
Coronavirus

https://www.independentsciencenews.org/commentaries/a-chinese-phd-thesis...

NorthReport
NorthReport
NDPP

No, the coronavirus wasn't made in a lab

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-covid-19-not-human-made-...

"The coronavirus circling the globe is caused by a natural virus, not one made in a lab..."

NorthReport
NDPP

A nice piece by Nikoforuk. Perhaps some words to the wise..?

"...Whenever I descend like frost on a ripe crop of grapes, conspiracies, racism and fear will be the harvest...Pandemics do not breed reason."

NorthReport
NorthReport
MegB

NorthReport wrote:

It's a theory.

What the world needs are scientific answers as to the origins of the pandemic known officially as SARS-CoV-2, but can be called SARS2 for short, not deflections. 

The origin of COVID: Did people or nature open Pandora’s box at Wuhan?

 

 

Members of the World Health Organization (WHO) team investigating the origins of the COVID-19 coronavirus arrive by car at the Wuhan Institute of Virology on February 3. (Photo by HECTOR RETAMAL/AFP via Getty Images) Members of the World Health Organization (WHO) team investigating the origins of the COVID-19 coronavirus arrive by car at the Wuhan Institute of Virology on February 3. (Photo by HECTOR RETAMAL/AFP via Getty Images)

I’ll describe the two theories, explain why each is plausible, and then ask which provides the better explanation of the available facts. It’s important to note that so far there is no direct evidence for either theory. Each depends on a set of reasonable conjectures but so far lacks proof. So I have only clues, not conclusions, to offer. But those clues point in a specific direction. And having inferred that direction, I’m going to delineate some of the strands in this tangled skein of disaster.

 

https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature...

 

I'm sorry NR, but given that this article repeatedly states that there is not scientifice evidence for these "theories" and that such baseless musing contribute to anti-Asian racism and hysteria, I'll have to ask you to stop posting information that is without basis in real science. Misinformation is causing needless death and misery and babble is not the place to allow it to proliferate.

Pondering

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/manitoba-covid-19-update-friday-...

Manitoba public health officials pleaded with the pubic on Friday to do everything possible to stay home — unless they're going out to get vaccinated — as they announced 594 new COVID-19 cases and three deaths...

"Our health system is on the brink of being overwhelmed. Contingency plans are being triggered and people are tired," said Lanette Siragusa, Shared Health's chief nursing officer.

"So I ask again for all of you to please limit your contacts. Please stay home this weekend."...

"We are at a critical time right now. Stay away from people from outside your household. If you have symptoms, get tested and stay home. Even if you're well, stay home," Dr. Jazz Atwal, acting deputy chief provincial public health officer, said on Friday....

While I acknowledge that for some this is very difficult for the grand majority of Canadians staying home is easy. It is a first world problem. 

 

eastnoireast

MegB wrote:

NorthReport wrote:

It's a theory.

What the world needs are scientific answers as to the origins of the pandemic known officially as SARS-CoV-2, but can be called SARS2 for short, not deflections. 

The origin of COVID: Did people or nature open Pandora’s box at Wuhan?

 

 

Members of the World Health Organization (WHO) team investigating the origins of the COVID-19 coronavirus arrive by car at the Wuhan Institute of Virology on February 3. (Photo by HECTOR RETAMAL/AFP via Getty Images) Members of the World Health Organization (WHO) team investigating the origins of the COVID-19 coronavirus arrive by car at the Wuhan Institute of Virology on February 3. (Photo by HECTOR RETAMAL/AFP via Getty Images)

I’ll describe the two theories, explain why each is plausible, and then ask which provides the better explanation of the available facts. It’s important to note that so far there is no direct evidence for either theory. Each depends on a set of reasonable conjectures but so far lacks proof. So I have only clues, not conclusions, to offer. But those clues point in a specific direction. And having inferred that direction, I’m going to delineate some of the strands in this tangled skein of disaster.

 

https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature...

 

I'm sorry NR, but given that this article repeatedly states that there is not scientifice evidence for these "theories" and that such baseless musing contribute to anti-Asian racism and hysteria, I'll have to ask you to stop posting information that is without basis in real science. Misinformation is causing needless death and misery and babble is not the place to allow it to proliferate.

"It’s important to note that so far there is no direct evidence for either theory."

either theory...  as in, lab or natural.

but somehow, by your logic, we're only allowed to discuss one of them.

and we're not allowed to post articles chock-full of important quotes and links from the parties involved, like;

"Much of Shi’s work on gain-of-function in coronaviruses was performed at the BSL2 safety level, as is stated in her publications and other documents. She has said in an interview with Science magazine that “[t]he coronavirus research in our laboratory is conducted in BSL-2 or BSL-3 laboratories.”"

it's not anti-anything, it's called investigative reporting.

NorthReport

MegB,

I hear you about the anti-Asian racism and hysteria.

I especially appreciated JKR's post #635 in the following thread:  https://rabble.ca/babble/international-news-and-politics/demonization-ch...,  in clear contrast to what is being spewed out regularly by our resident US hater.

There is no question Trump's sick covid comments, and others of of his ilk, have poisoned the situation. Now that he is no longer president, hopefully there will soon be an impartial scientific investigation, without the vested political and financial interests, that have permeated this inquiry from the beginning.  

If there has been anything anything worthwhile as a result of the pandemic, it was Trump's losing his bid for a second term, brought on to a large extent by his mismanagement of covid and his attacks on science. 

 

Investigate the origins of COVID-19

  1. Jesse D. Bloom1,2
  2. Yujia Alina Chan3
  3. Ralph S. Baric4
  4. Pamela J. Bjorkman5
  5. Sarah Cobey6
  6. Benjamin E. Deverman3
  7. David N. Fisman7
  8. Ravindra Gupta8
  9. Akiko Iwasaki9,2
  10. Marc Lipsitch10
  11. Ruslan Medzhitov9,2
  12. Richard A. Neher11
  13. Rasmus Nielsen12
  14. Nick Patterson13
  15. Tim Stearns14
  16. Erik van Nimwegen11
  17. Michael Worobey15
  18. David A. Relman16,17,*

 See all authors and affiliations

Science  14 May 2021:
Vol. 372, Issue 6543, pp. 694
DOI: 10.1126/science.abj0016

Finally, in this time of unfortunate anti-Asian sentiment in some countries, we note that at the beginning of the pandemic, it was Chinese doctors, scientists, journalists, and citizens who shared with the world crucial information about the spread of the virus—often at great personal cost (89). We should show the same determination in promoting a dispassionate science-based discourse on this difficult but important issue.

 

 

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/372/6543/694.1

Pondering

it's not anti-anything, it's called investigative reporting.

It's speculative not investigative. It is perfectly normal for it to transmit from animal to human. It happens frequently. There is nothing surprising about it. All that mumbo jumbo about it being linked to an outbreak in a mine in 2012 is a bunch of what ifs. 

https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/chinese-officials-blame-us-ar...

On Thursday (March 12), Zhao Lijian, the spokesperson of China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, took to Twitter, a social platform banned in China, to ask, “When did patient zero begin in US? How many people are infected? What are the names of the hospitals? It might be US army who brought the epidemic to Wuhan. Be transparent! Make public your data! US owe us an explanation!” 

The text of the tweet was accompanied by a video of US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Robert Redfield saying that some deaths assumed to have been caused by the flu were actually COVID-19, though the video does not reference specific cases or dates.

Lijian has also retweeted a link to a known conspiracy site that claims the virus may have originated at the US Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases at Ft. Detrick in Maryland, which was shut down in August after biosafety lapses with a number of pathogens. The website goes on to speculate that the virus went from Ft. Detrick to e-cigarettes to Hawaii to Wuhan. There is no evidence the pathogens in Maryland ever left the lab and there’s an equal lack of evidence supporting any of the other claims. 

An analysis of the virus’s genome indicates that the outbreak wasn’t caused by a strain from a lab and likely came from wild animals instead.

Despite the lack of evidence, the fact that a government official is making these claims seemingly unchecked could have larger consequences, says Victor Shih, an associate professor at the University of California, San Diego.

“If the [Chinese] leadership really believes in the culpability of the U.S. government,” Shih tells The New York Times, “it may behave in a way that dramatically worsens the bilateral relationship.”

So what if the US military did it.  What about that. Can we really prove that this even originated on Earth?  I heard that it was found in space. The Russians could have done it. Aren't they running around poisoning people now? 

There is zero evidence that it came from a lab. Even if it did what are we going to do about it? Stop trading with China? Tell them they aren't allowed to study this shit in labs anymore? 

 

kropotkin1951

Pondering wrote:

There is zero evidence that it came from a lab. Even if it did what are we going to do about it? Stop trading with China? Tell them they aren't allowed to study this shit in labs anymore? 

We are going to rescue the people of China from their government because it worked so well for the people of Libya. The white man's burden weighs heavy on people like Keeney O'Toole. If he doesn't rescue those brown people who will? All they need is a government that follows the Washington international order and we can have peace in the world. Their country will become a shit hole but that is the price they have to pay for America's freedom.

eastnoireast

Pondering wrote:

it's not anti-anything, it's called investigative reporting.

It's speculative not investigative. It is perfectly normal for it to transmit from animal to human. It happens frequently. There is nothing surprising about it. All that mumbo jumbo about it being linked to an outbreak in a mine in 2012 is a bunch of what ifs. 

what spurious claptrap. 

your pet theory, the one that everyone knows is right, is also a bunch of what ifs, unless you got somethin' we should all know about.

by the way, my webster's defines speculative as "to think deeply; reflect". 

 

Pondering wrote:

https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/chinese-officials-blame-us-ar...

On Thursday (March 12), Zhao Lijian, the spokesperson of China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, took to Twitter, a social platform banned in China, to ask, “When did patient zero begin in US? How many people are infected? What are the names of the hospitals? It might be US army who brought the epidemic to Wuhan. Be transparent! Make public your data! US owe us an explanation!” 

The text of the tweet was accompanied by a video of US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Robert Redfield saying that some deaths assumed to have been caused by the flu were actually COVID-19, though the video does not reference specific cases or dates.

Lijian has also retweeted a link to a known conspiracy site that claims the virus may have originated at the US Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases at Ft. Detrick in Maryland, which was shut down in August after biosafety lapses with a number of pathogens. The website goes on to speculate that the virus went from Ft. Detrick to e-cigarettes to Hawaii to Wuhan. There is no evidence the pathogens in Maryland ever left the lab and there’s an equal lack of evidence supporting any of the other claims. 

An analysis of the virus’s genome indicates that the outbreak wasn’t caused by a strain from a lab and likely came from wild animals instead.

Despite the lack of evidence, the fact that a government official is making these claims seemingly unchecked could have larger consequences, says Victor Shih, an associate professor at the University of California, San Diego.

“If the [Chinese] leadership really believes in the culpability of the U.S. government,” Shih tells The New York Times, “it may behave in a way that dramatically worsens the bilateral relationship.”

So what if the US military did it.  What about that. Can we really prove that this even originated on Earth?  I heard that it was found in space. The Russians could have done it. Aren't they running around poisoning people now? 

wtf?  oh yeah, that's called a gish gallop (hat-tip michael moriarity).  well, maybe a trot; a tired donkey with several crude straw-theories duck-taped on.

 

Pondering wrote:

There is zero evidence that it came from a lab. Even if it did what are we going to do about it? Stop trading with China? Tell them they aren't allowed to study this shit in labs anymore?

again, there is also "zero evidence" that covid19 is fully natural in origin.

jesus fucking christ, this is basic, basic, logic.

 

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I mostly agree with eastnoireast on this one. The article in the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists doesn't misstate any facts, as far as I can tell, and it could well be correct. However, it is still speculation, rather than a solid, scientific observation. Despite the dictionary definition, scientists make a very clear distinction between speculation and theory. Speculation is acceptable as long as it is consistent with all known evidence, but it should be clearly labelled as speculation. At this point, all hypotheses as to the origin of covid-19 are merely speculation, so that this one is just as valid as any other.

The problem I have in this case is the political baggage of the "blame the Chinese" hypothesis. It is being supported by a lot of people who want it to be true for various reasons, racism and geopolitics being the biggies. If it does turn out to be true, these people won't take the logical course, and try to improve the internationally accepted containment procedures for dangerous microbes. Instead, they will tell us that the solution is to not allow the yellow peril (Chinese Communist Party) to do such dangerous research. U.S. senators like Tom Cotton and Ted Cruz are already making speeches along these lines.

That makes this particular issue different than say, the similar scientific dispute over the origin and nature of ʻOumuamua. What was known was minimal. The object's orbit had been traced back to interstellar space, its shape and chemical composition was unusual for a comet or an asteroid. Harvard astronomer Avi Loeb put forward the hypothesis that this was actually an artifact of an alien civilization. Most of his colleagues find natural explanations more likely. But in that case, there is no political value to the answer. Whatever the answer may be, its effect on society will be negligible. Not so with the origin of covid-19.

kropotkin1951

NorthReport wrote:

There is no question Trump's sick covid comments, and others of of his ilk, have poisoned the situation. Now that he is no longer president, hopefully there will soon be an impartial scientific investigation, without the vested political and financial interests, that have permeated this inquiry from the beginning. 

Biden is sure to make America great again. In the meantime many of us have tried to look at statements based on their merits not whether or not Trump said anything. People who are so partisan that their reactions are a reflexive knee jerk tend to miss the subtitles of policy when discussing politics.

NorthReport

Hopefully the covid19 pandemic is not the result of a Lab accident.

Debating the origins of the COVID-19 virus: What we know, what we don’t know

https://www.politifact.com/article/2021/may/17/debating-origins-covid-19...

 

But after the damage he has done, and can still do, it is no secret why US haters love Trump

https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

kropotkin1951

NorthReport wrote:

Hopefully the covid19 pandemic is not the result of a Lab accident.

Debating the origins of the COVID-19 virus: What we know, what we don’t know

https://www.politifact.com/article/2021/may/17/debating-origins-covid-19...

 

But after the damage he has done, and can still do, it is no secret why US haters love Trump

https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

WTF

NDPP

Ignore the conspiracy theories: scientists know covid-19 wasn't created in a lab

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/09/conspiracies-covid...

"Unfortunately, this sort of logic will not deter conspiracy theorists..."

NDPP

No surprise to find some of the same fervent swallowers of the 'Trump is Putin's slave', 'Russiagate' conspiracy are now only too eager to side with Mike Pompeo et al's contention that evil red-Chinese mad scientists were behind the coronavirus pandemic.

Like 'Belgian babies spitted on German bayonets' or the incendiary Gulf War, fake news story of Iraqi soldiers throwing Kuwaiti babies out of incubators - a tale devised by the same US-based global PR firm, Hill & Knowlton that now runs the NDP - the agit-prop concoction that China is responsible for the pandemic is a malevolent scam designed to further manufacture consent for  US geopolitical designs against China.

Canada like the good doggie it is, has amply demonstrated its eagerness to follow, as do its right-left Canucklhead shock troops - similarly always ready, able and willing to answer and amplify Washington's call. There's lots of refutation on the alternative/left of this anti-China covid shit but since this bunch seems only to believe the msm, The Guardian and Forbes will have to do.

No, Science Clearly Shows That COVID-19 Wasn't Leaked From a Wuhan Lab

https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2021/05/20/no-science-clear...

"...Despite the enormous scientific knowledge humanity has gained, however, an unfounded conspiracy theory about the virus's origin has gained a lot of traction: That it was genetically engineered with the purpose of infecting humans, that it was leaked from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, and that's where it came from.

Most recently, disgraced journalist Nicholas Wade has penned an error-filled misleading piece promoting this nonsense, but the science tells a different story...The virology is open-and-shut: There is no compelling reason to believe that SARS-CoV-2 originated in a lab."

NorthReport

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NorthReport

Almost a year has passed since that article was written however I still hope he is correct, but unfortunately Daszak probably has the biggest conflict of interest of anyone involved, so unbiased, perhaps not so much.

NDPP

No you don't hope he is correct at all. You continue to hope that your never ending  ant-Russia/anti-China, whatever-Washington-says, msm shower of shit and lies carries the day here. You waste the time I could be posting valuable and useful information on the pandemic, instead having to counter your false and misleading ill-intentioned nonsense.

NDPP

COVID Canada Update: 5/22/2021

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/

  • When it comes to vaccine interchangeability, NACI recommends the same type
  • More than half of Canada has received at least one dose of Covid-19 vaccine
  • Golf courses and other amenities reopen in Ontario
  • Manitoba premier calls for vaccines to be shipped from US to Canada
  • CODE PINK campaign: Children are in the grip of a mental health crisis
NorthReport

You forgot to check with your Moonies in Alabama I'm sure they will have their usual significant comments to make, eh!

NDPP

Dr John Campbell: Coronavirus Updates

Third Vaccine Dose

https://youtu.be/M2YvIVkcJFk

 

Black fungus disease in India

https://youtu.be/sDkyOoDYpWc

 

Saturday Update: 5/22/2021

https://youtu.be/YZlyvPeayGQ

UK cases up 10.5 %, USA, Asia, Australia etc

 

NDPP

COVID-19 Pandemic LIVE: World Map/Count

https://youtu.be/NMre6IAAAiU

 (Updating)

Always remember there is a world out there...

NDPP

'Canada is winning the vaccine lottery'

https://twitter.com/NoLore/status/1396099022264442883

"Canada bought more vaccines than any other country, refused to impose measures that would have gotten us to COVID zero  and blocked the TRIPS waiver at the WTO, but sure CBC, make this a story about luck..."

CBC is the voice of ignorant smugness and self-satisfied arrogance, even as it terminates journalists for daring to utter the word 'Palestine.' Our increasingly  'friendly fascist' broadcaster to an open-minded-confused Canadian vacuum land.

NorthReport
Pondering

again, there is also "zero evidence" that covid19 is fully natural in origin.

There is no way to even find out who patient zero was nevermind precisely where or how they caught it. There will never be any proof that it was natural transmission just like there is no way to prove that a heart attack was natural. We assume it is natural unless we have reason to believe otherwise. 

We have no reason to believe that this escaped or was released by a lab in China. A lab which regularly collaborates with scientists from Canada. 

WOAH   Canada sent Covid-19 to China!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/canadian-scientist-sent-deadly-v...

Canadian scientist sent deadly viruses to Wuhan lab months before RCMP asked to investigate

"In response to a request from the Wuhan Institute of Virology for viral samples of Ebola and Henipah viruses, the Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC) sent samples for the purpose of scientific research in 2019."....

In Canada, gain of function experiments to create more dangerous pathogens in humans are not prohibited, but are not done because they're considered too dangerous, Attaran said.....

"The Wuhan lab does them and we have now supplied them with Ebola and Nipah viruses. It does not take a genius to understand that this is an unwise decision," he said....

All of this has led to conspiracy theories linking the novel coronavirus responsible for COVID-19, Canada's microbiology lab, and the lab in Wuhan. ...

The RCMP and PHAC have consistently denied any connections between the pandemic and the virus shipments. There is no evidence linking this shipment to the spread of the coronavirus. Ebola is a filovirus and Henipa is a paramyxovirus; no coronavirus samples were sent.

Yeah right and we are just supposed to believe them! I want proof that Canada didn't send coronavirus samples to China. 

 

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CBC is the voice of ignorant smugness and self-satisfied arrogance, even as it terminates journalists for daring to utter the word 'Palestine.' Our increasingly  'friendly fascist' broadcaster to an open-minded-confused Canadian vacuum land.

Their recent orgy of self-congratulation over Canada catching up to the US in first doses administered per capita reminded me of North Korea's "Let's only eat two meals a day!" slogan. One dose: Sufficient for Canadians to be proud of their government, even though it's not sufficient to change anything in terms of restrictions! We're the best!

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And yet our arrogant asshole Premier arranges a Saturday press conference to demand that Biden release more vaccines from North Dakota to meet Manitoba's need. This is a huge WTF to everyone, including Manitobans.

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