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Federal election 2021

Oh no, another federal election?! Yes folks, the long hinted at fall election has been announced. The writ has dropped. We have the opportunity to etc. etc. etc....

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NorthReport

Watching the debacle that is unfolding in Afghanistan right now, it is obvious that Trudeau should be wearing it, however with Canada's militartistic mainstream media running interference for the Liberals, will he? How gullible can Canadians be thinking Canada is there is help women and children, when we know the real reason we are there - to do the bidding of the defence contractors who have never seen a war they didn't like.  

kropotkin1951

The NDP foreign policy was written by Hills Knowlton, you know of babies in incubators fame. They have chosen to promote peace between the two equal adversaries, Israel and Palestine, who just need to sit down and sing kum ba yah. There is no mention of any Israeli need to follow "the rule of law" as they destroy high rise towers in residential neighborhoods and target international media sites and shoot civilians in the streets for peacefully protesting. However the NDP promises that they will be vigilant at stemming the yellow tide that is sweeping the world. They urge Canadians, with our white supremacist allies in the 5Eyes, to all stand together to fight the yellow peril. Sad, sad, sad from a party that once stood for peace and neutrality.

kropotkin1951

NorthReport wrote:

Singh hit the right notes at his presser this morning talking about fighting for working people and forcing Trudeau to double the CERB payments, $10 child care and taxing the ultra rich

I can't disagree more. He is trying to out do the Liberal's on their home turf. Their spin doctors have honed the messages on child care since the '90's. Yes the party got a few concessions during the budget talks but the Liberal message is that you can get more if you make Trudeau a dictator.

Wake me up when he starts talking about the environmental catastrophe happening in the riding he represents. People are getting arrested in his riding trying to stop TMX. Does he stand with the citizens of Burnaby and all their locally elected municipal leaders and all the indigenous nations that claim they have never ceded their rights. How about the students and workers at SFU who are facing real risks from this mega industrial project in the heart of the city he parachuted in to represent.

Pondering

The US decided to pull out. Canadians will realize that Canada couldn't stay alone. Trudeau will take credit for bringing in 20K refugees. 

melovesproles

Who even cares what most Canadians realize? The important thing is the 33% (of voters) that support Trudeau's version of reality and the SuperMPs they elect. The other 67% are toxic obstructionist negative votes and what they think can be ventriloquized to support the narrative of the privileged 33% that get a monopoly on our "democracy".

NorthReport

Trudeau Streaks for the Gold

Opponents hobbled by self-inflicted injuries, the PM aims for a big win. But who’s cheering?

 

https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2021/08/16/Trudeau-Streaks-For-Gold/

NorthReport

Trudeau has bet everything on securing a majority

 

 

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/federal-election-2021/tom-mulcair-trudea...

NorthReport

What to expect when you're expecting an unnecessary federal election

 

 

https://rabble.ca/news/2021/08/what-expect-when-youre-expecting-unnecess...

Pondering

NorthReport wrote:

Trudeau has bet everything on securing a majority

 

 

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/federal-election-2021/tom-mulcair-trudea...

It's bizarre that Mulcair was ever the NDP leader. Afghanistan won't hurt Trudeau at all. Canada could not have stayed without the US and foreign affairs rarely impact swing voters anyway. Mulcair thinks that O'Toole will benefit because he has a military background so will relate better to vets. 

cco

Mulcair's buttering up the Tory voters whose endorsement he'll be seeking after O'Toole quits. Remember when the NDP had a leader who stood up enough to the global war coalition to be called "Taliban Jack"? Me either.

josh

Mulcair admires Margaret Thatcher almost as much as Tony Blair does.

Webgear

Pondering wrote:

Mulcair thinks that O'Toole will benefit because he has a military background so will relate better to vets. 

Most veterans aren't to happy with O'Toole from what I am hearing. 

JKR

josh wrote:

Mulcair admires Margaret Thatcher almost as much as Tony Blair does.

Something tells me Mulcair also admires Tony Blair while Tony Blair has no idea who Mulcair is.

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Nice to see you back Webgear. Interesting about O'Toole. I like many others thought the debacle in Afghanistan would work in his favour.

Webgear

Thanks, I thought I would pop in for a bit.

Personally, I think most veterans are pissed off at the majority of the politicians. Too many debacles, to many broken promises.

O’Toole is going the wrong way in my opinion. I think his stint as a leader will be very short unless a miracle happens for the next month.

I would like to see a united country but that doesn’t seem too likely.

I hope you are doing well

     

jerrym

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Cartoon by Greg Perry.

Pondering

laine lowe wrote:

Nice to see you back Webgear. Interesting about O'Toole. I like many others thought the debacle in Afghanistan would work in his favour.

I'm curious to hear your reasoning. Other than getting non-military people out faster, what should Trudeau have done?

NorthReport

As millennials fall out of love with Trudeau, right-wingers are concerned about the bleed to the NDP

"According to experts, the falling out of love between millennials and Trudeau began before the 2019 election, notably with the SNC-Lavalin scandal that shook the Trudeau government and led to the resignation of ministers Jody Wilson-Raybould and Jane Philpott. The ethics commissioner later found that Trudeau had acted improperly by trying to push Wilson-Raybould to end criminal prosecution of SNC-Lavalin.

The government’s decision to purchase the Trans Mountain pipeline in order to facilitate its expansion in western Canada also dealt a heavy blow to millennials’ impressions of the Liberals, since they often rate the fight against climate change and environmental issues amongst their top political priorities when voting, experts say."

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/election-2021/as-millennials-fall...

NorthReport

Federal government could generate over $90 billion annually by making tax system fairer 

 

https://www.taxfairness.ca/en/press_release/2021-08/media-release-federa...

NorthReport

Liberals lead in Nipissing–Timiskaming but local voter data shows upward trend for NDP

Liberal and Conservative support has dropped in the riding from the 2015 election to the 2019 election to the early polling data for the Sept. 20 vote

 

https://www.baytoday.ca/local-news/liberals-lead-in-nipissingtimiskaming...

Pondering

OMG the media is so trying to turn this into a soap opera. 

OTTAWA — In 2015millennials mobilized in droves to support the Justin TrudeauLiberals, but, six years and two elections later, experts say millennials have fallen out of love with the prime minister and his party will have to work hard to stop them from bleeding over to the emerging NDP.

They weren't in love with Trudeau or the party. They just wanted to stop Harper and Mulcair started making stupid noises about balanced budgets and modern powerful pot that had to be studied more. 

And polling numbers illustrate that fall eloquently. According to Leger polling, nearly half (46 per cent) of Canadians aged 18 to 34 supported the Liberal Party of Canada by the end of the 2015 campaign that led Trudeau from leader of the third opposition to prime minister of Canada.

Yeah but the NDP almost won so it isn't like the NDP was or is unpopular with progressive voters like the Conservatives.

“This is not a generation anymore that looks at the prime minister and says, ‘He’s different, he’s one of us, he’s going to change politics,’” he continued.

 

That never happened.  Trudeau was best out of 3 in 2015 and 2019 nothing more. Jack Layton might well have beat Trudeau in 2015 were he alive to do it. He wasn't so people ended up voting for Trudeau. That doesn't mean they thought he was going to change politics. 

If millennials aren’t voting for Liberals en masse like in 2015, then where is their vote going? In some cases, it has slowly shifted towards the NDP and its increasingly popular leader Jagmeet Singh.

You know what's likely leading the shift to the NDP (even if it is small)? Policy. Not how cool Singh is. 

2015 was about getting rid of Harper. When Trudeau looked like a dud the vote started going to Mulcair. When Trudeau passed the debate test and promised deficits while Mulcair promised balanced budgets Trudeau won. It had nothng to do with love or even admiration. 

2019 people still didn't want the Conservatives and the NDP under Singh was new so Trudeau won. It isn't that people liked or trusted him. They didn't want Scheer but even so they did not give Trudeau a majority. 

So who will vote for Trudeau this time? He's taking some of the Conservative vote. I can't imagine they will be happy voting for him. It won't mean they have his support. It will only mean they dislike O'Toole even more or are afraid of the NDP. 

He will get a lot of votes from people who just want stability, no more elections for four years, for government to run smoothly. Again that doesn't mean they have forgotten the scandals or that they like him. It may mean that the Liberals are most trusted to balance the economy and social supports. 

He will get votes from people who are still afraid of the Conservatives winning. 

If Trudeau wins a majority it will not be because people "trust" him or the Liberals. For most he will be their least worst choice. 

My riding will go Liberal. There is no risk at all of it going Conservative or NDP. So I can vote as I please. Green, NDP, even Bloc. If I were in a riding that was a fight between the Conservatives and the Liberals I would take gravol and vote Liberal. This would not be an expression of support. 

Because the Liberals at this time are predicted to win with ease (no worries about the Conservatives) I will probably vote NDP. That will also not be an expression of absolute support. If I could vote for Lascaris I would but I can't so NDP it will have to be. 

NorthReport

Kettle and Stony Point chief acclaimed as NDP candidate

 

https://www.theobserver.ca/news/local-news/kettle-and-stony-point-chief-...

NorthReport

It's nice to have a leader representing a Western seat once in a while

https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal-election/2021/08/17/ndp-pledges...

Pondering

NorthReport wrote:
It's nice to have a leader representing a Western seat once in a while https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal-election/2021/08/17/ndp-pledges...

And yet he is tri-lingual including French. What a great PM he would make. 

NorthReport

One message that the Nova Scotia election could have for the upcoming Federal election ls that this is the result you get when you call an election over absolutely nothing.

https://globalnews.ca/news/8121098/election-canada-nova-scotia-pc-conser...

NorthReport
NorthReport

Singh's presser this morning is entitled Trudeau's Housing Crisis

jerrym

Within a couple of minutes of Singh beginning talking about housing in metro Vancouver, Trudeau started talking about adding 1,000 firefighters. This is becoming a pattern of behaviour for the Liberals.  Last night Liberal leader Rankin committed a faux pas by going on TV after NDP leader Burrill had barely begun speaking, a norm that was once rarely violated by anyone in any party. Trudeau and Scheer did the same with Trudeau interrupting Scheer and Scheer interrupting Singh in the 2019 election. The CBC finally woke up and put Trudeau's picture on a small side screen while continuing to feature Singh speaking, otherwise the media ends up rewarding politicians cutting off other politicians from delivering their message. 

The 2019 federal election campaign was described as many things — nasty, divisive, and messy were some. And then came the final speeches which were, well, nasty, divisive and messy.

In a surprising move, viewers watched as Conservative leader Andrew Scheer took to the podium to begin his concession speech, while NDP leader Jagmeet Singh was still winding down his address. But just as Scheer started on his opening remarks in Regina, out came Prime Minister Justin Trudeau who launched into his victory speech in Papineau.

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/election-2019/canada-federal-elec...

 

melovesproles

Not a surprising move that Prime Minister Blackface likes to talk over non-white Canadian leaders.

Pondering

I'm pretty sure he would have talked over O'Toole as well. Clever of Singh to call it "Trudeau's housing crisis".  Trudeau can no longer blame things on previous administrations. I still dare not hope. 

If Singh doesn't hold Trudeau to a minority I predict a sharp turn right by Trudeau. The lack of mention of pharmacare is a sign. 

 

NorthReport

One of the things Singh mentioned at his presser this morning is that there was a House of Commons vote concerning having an election during the pandemic, and the vote was three hundred and something against and one vote for. And that one vote for was not Trudeau' vote. In other words Trudeau at that time vote against having an election during the pandemic.

NorthReport

This shows clearly that Trudeau's attempt to override Singh's presser this morning was quite intentional.

 

Nova Scotia, you have our attention

 

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/ottawa-playbook/2021/08/18/wednesda...

NorthReport

Singh promises 20 per cent tax on foreign homebuyers in bid for B.C. votes

NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh

NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh takes part in a virtual nomination meeting for his riding of Burnaby South, in Vancouver, B.C., Tuesday, Aug. 17, 2021. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Paul Chiasson

 

https://www.cp24.com/news/singh-promises-20-per-cent-tax-on-foreign-home...

melovesproles

Pondering wrote:
 

If Singh doesn't hold Trudeau to a minority I predict a sharp turn right by Trudeau.

Not exactly a bold prediction. That's happened literally every time the Liberals have got a Majority government.

kropotkin1951

NorthReport wrote:
It's nice to have a leader representing a Western seat once in a while https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal-election/2021/08/17/ndp-pledges...

Too bad he is from Ontario. But given the dirth of French that is spoken in BC it is almost like we have to import Central Canadians so they can pass the linguistic tests for leadership. Jagmeet spends most of his time in Ottawa as leader and has no roots in the community. It's a facade that the NDP has a "Western" leader.

kropotkin1951

melovesproles wrote:

Pondering wrote:
 

If Singh doesn't hold Trudeau to a minority I predict a sharp turn right by Trudeau.

Not exactly a bold prediction. That's happened literally every time the Liberals have got a Majority government.

That is a Canadian truism not a prediction. The Liberal Red Book is Lucy's football and Canadian Charlie Browns' keep trying to get a kick at it, but to no avail.

jerrym

Trudeau announced yesterday in Vancouver the promise to add 1,000 firefighters to combat wildfires without saying anything about ending the Trans Mountain pipeline, which is par for the course for this PM. Besides declaring a climate emergency and then buying the pipeline the next day to triple its fossil fuel capacity, the Trudeau Liberals have doubled Line 3 pipeline have Alberta to Manitoba for oil delivery to the American Midwest, supported the Keystone pipeline even after Biden blocked it, pushed for continuing of Line 5 pipeline through the Great Lakes region over the objections of several American states, tried to make the Energy East pipeline through Quebec to the Maritimes and another pipeline from Ontario to Saguenay Quebec for fossil fuel export to Europe and Asia until opposition from indigenous people, environmentalists and the Quebec government threatened Quebec Liberals keeping their Quebec MPs in the upcoming election and Trudeau's dream of an election majority. All of this despite the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report released last week warning "Climate change has arrived, in other words, and it will keep getting worse until humanity reduces its greenhouse-gas pollution to zero ... averting every additional tenth of a degree of warming, will not only lessen the harm over the next few decades, but resound for centuries and even millennia to come."

As Liberal Environment Minister Wilkinson said in response to Power and Politic's Katie Simpson's question  "How can you be moving ahead with that project (Trans Mountain) when twinning the pipeline will increase oil production from 300,000 barrels a day to 900,000 barrels a day?

Wilkinson: "We are moving through a transition in which we are extracting the full value of our resources. ... Right now we ship enormous amounts by rail. What we are saying is its got to be part of the transition."

 

Pondering

kropotkin1951 wrote:

melovesproles wrote:

Pondering wrote:
 

If Singh doesn't hold Trudeau to a minority I predict a sharp turn right by Trudeau.

Not exactly a bold prediction. That's happened literally every time the Liberals have got a Majority government.

That is a Canadian truism not a prediction. The Liberal Red Book is Lucy's football and Canadian Charlie Browns' keep trying to get a kick at it, but to no avail.

We have an ideal example to use. Trudeau has had 6 years to implement Pharmacare. I haven't checked but I don't think it is in this years platform. 

NDPP

Re: #38 "Trudeau Liberals are continuing on the same fossil fuel path..."

Oh come on now. As Trudeau's minister of environment and climate change has already succinctly explained, piplines and fossil fuels are critical to finance this prime minister's  fervently held environmental goals. Furthermore, his deep commitment in this regard has been obvious throughout his political career...

Liberal campaign co-chair steps down after advising Trans Canada on lobbying next government

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-election-2015-liberal-co-chair-a...

And to realize his historic task of putting things to rights, he has sent his trusted deputy prime minister Chrystia Freeland to further explain to  BC yokels the urgency of voting in a Liberal majority despite their outrageous and unfounded claims that there may be more important matters that require his government's attention. What could possibly be more important than the Liberals' parliamentary majority?

Mayors, chief in BC's Interior say they're disappointed at federal election call amid raging wildfires

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-interior-wildfire-ele...

"At a campaign event in Port Moody BC on Monday, Liberal Party candidate Chrystia Freeland said she understands the threat of wildfires to British Columbians, but argued that now is the right time for an election..."

All joking aside, now there's a nasty Liberal piece of 'rules-based-international-order-feminist-foreign-policy-Israel-uber-alles-lima-groupenfuhrer-slava-ukraini-ultranationalist-usmca-sellout' work we'd all be better off  to see unseated. Here's hoping the good people of University-Rosedale will help make that happen.

 

jerrym

jerrym wrote:

As Liberal Environment Minister Wilkinson said in response to Power and Politic's Katie Simpson's question  "How can you be moving ahead with that project (Trans Mountain) when twinning the pipeline will increase oil production from 300,000 barrels a day to 900,000 barrels a day?

Wilkinson: "We are moving through a transition in which we are extracting the full value of our resources. ... Right now we ship enormous amounts by rail. What we are saying is its got to be part of the transition."

 

NDPP wrote

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Re: #38 "Trudeau Liberals are continuing on the same fossil fuel path..."

Oh come on now. As Trudeau's minister of environment and climate change has already succinctly explained, piplines and fossil fuels are critical to finance this prime minister's  fervently held environmental goals. Furthermore, his deep commitment in this regard has been obvious throughout his political career...

Considering Wilkinson's background it is not surprising that he sees extracting the full value of our fossil fuel resources part of the solution to the climate change and fitting right into a Trudeau Liberal cabinet that declares a climate emergency one day and buys the Trans Mountain pipeline the next day to triple oil pipeline capacity. "In 1999, he relocated to Vancouver to work for QuestAir Technologies, a gas purification company and he became its CEO in 2002.[1] In 2009, he became the senior vice-president for business development in Nexterra Systems, a biomass company." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Wilkinson

QuestAir Technologies Overview: Manufacturer of advanced gas separation systems. The company uses pressure swing adsorption (PSA) technology to develop gas purification systems. The company offers its products for various applications and also caters to energy markets. ... Primary Industry Oil and Gas Equipment" (https://pitchbook.com/profiles/company/54062-47)

"Nexterra’s core technology is a fixed-bed updraft gasification system." (http://www.nexterra.ca/files/gasification-technology.php)

"Environmental advocates have called gasification "incineration in disguise" and argue that the technology is still dangerous to air quality and public health (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasification)

 

NDPP

Wiikwemkoong chief Duke Peltier running to be mp for Algoma-Manitoulin-Kapuskasing

https://twitter.com/RussDiabo/status/1428358812507856904

'Newly minted Liberal candidate gives Trudeau government an 'A for effort' on reconciliation.' [More like 'A' for Assimilation. This Chief is an example of how for past 6 years, AFN & Termination Table Chiefs have implemented the White Paper 2.0 Agenda.]"

NorthReport

So much for the Liberals commitment to fight global warming

https://www.straight.com/finance/canadian-centre-for-policy-alternatives...

Pondering

I spoke too soon. Campaigns matter and I forgot that even with all the polishing Trudeau has foot in mouth disease. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl5QKlh9bIk&ab_channel=TheRationalNational

Singh is just so much more credible he makes both Trudeau and O'Toole look like operators. 

NorthReport

Housing, or more accurately, lack of affordable housing, is a huge issue for many Canadians, and now with inflation, which is basically another regressive tax, taking off, their financial situation is rapidly going South.

https://www.straight.com/news/jagmeet-singh-shows-hes-tougher-than-justi...

NorthReport

Singh, now with some time as leader under his belt, appears to be better coming across at his pressers.

https://beta.ctvnews.ca/national/politics/federal-election-2021/2021/8/1...

NorthReport

You are doing one hell of a job Justin!

Canadian Executive Pay Has Risen 17%, or $171 Thousand, During Pandemic

https://www.investmentexecutive.com/news/research-and-markets/canadian-e...

NDPP

Consumers say they face sticker-shock in grocery aisles

https://torontosun.com/news/consumers-say-they-face-sticker-shock-in-gro...

Inflation reaches a 10-year high...

"The sticker shock is even worse for people living on fixed income. Natasha, a pensioner who says she cannot afford the inflaction, said it is 'Terrible. Terrible. Everything has gone up. It makes it tougher. It takes all my pension away..."

You ain't seen nothing yet Natasha.

ps: To sell you out and fuck you over, the  annual salary of each MP as of April 2021, was $185,800 +

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