In our third episode, Jamie Kirkpatrick, senior program manager of Blue Green Canada, discusses the need for a Just Transition, what it should look like for labour, and how Canada is doing in its move toward a clean energy economy.

Speaking to joint climate and labour demands and the idea of a Just Transition, Kirkpatrick says:

“Blue Green and a number of allies have been advocating …the idea of buying clean..You’re keeping people employed here at home. You’re keeping plants up and running … It’s 100 per cent about keeping jobs, reducing the carbon, building out a future together … If everyone is struggling to get by, you are living paycheck to paycheck and if that paycheck disappears, you’re in deep trouble. And that’s why we talked about the care economy … the importance of good union jobs and all of these things that don’t always necessarily seem to be connected, but they very much are … Change is inevitable, but justice is not.”

About Jamie Kirkpatrick:

Jamie Kirkpatrick is the senior program manager for Blue Green Canada. Blue Green Canada is an organization founded in 2010 by an alliance of Canadian labour unions, environmental groups, and civil society organizations. Kirkpatrick has over 25 years of campaign, research, and leadership experience. He has run successful campaigns related to climate change, public transit equity, air quality, and protecting natural spaces. Prior to moving west to Saskatoon, Jamie was the chief of staff to Toronto city councillors’ Mike Layton and Shelley Carroll. Jamie is also a graduate of the University of Toronto with an Honours BA focused on environmental studies and environment and resource management where he studied under the late Jack Layton.

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Image: Jamie Kirkpatrick / Used with permission.

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