In our fifth episode of this season of Courage My Friends, we revisit the George Brown College Labour Fair. This year, the theme of the fair is: The other P3s: pandemic, privatization, precarity,,, and planet!!
In this episode, we share the panel discussion on ‘Gig Workers and Precarity in the 21st Century.’ Moderator Jon Weier is joined by panelists Simran Dhunna and Jobanjeet Kaur of the Naujawan Support Network and Jennifer Scott from Gig Workers United. The groups discusses the tribulations faced by those working in precarious and gig jobs, increasingly exploitative employment structures and organizing for the rights and dignity of vulnerable workers.
Reflecting on the meaning of exploitation for precarious workers, especially international students and immigrant workers, Kaur says:
“Exploitation involves taking from workers that is rightfully ours. Wage theft, sexual harassment, inadequate job training, threats of deportation are all the forms of exploitation because they rob us of our earnings, safety and dignity.Sometimes people just take it as we are not being paid and it’s just exploitation of our money or something. No, it’s also the exploitation for the dignity of a worker. Because we go there professionally, work and put in the hours and everything, and it’s like they take our dignity away when they refuse to pay us.”
Speaking to the situation facing gig workers in Ontario, Scott says:
“Gig workers are misclassified workers. And so that means that we don’t have basic workers’ rights and protections … because apps, you know, our bosses, are disrupting employment standards and putting downward pressure on wages, on employment standards, on working conditions, not just for gig workers, but for all workers in the delivery and logistics sector … Bill-88 was something that apps like Uber and other bad bosses lobbied quite aggressively for … because it creates a standalone piece of legislation with separate and lesser protections, which really reinforces the narrative that apps use, that gig workers are not real workers.”
When it comes to organizing workers, Dhunna says:
“There’s the legal realm and then there’s the realm in the streets. We don’t rely on lawsuits or kind of the legal system to build our power, but it is a reality. It is a tool and a weapon that is used by employers just as they have done with Bill-88, and with other legal mechanisms to silence workers. And it’s not something that’s going to intimidate workers, of course. We’re thankful for some of the support that’s come from other labour organizations and publications like Briar Patch, because this is kind of the way we’ve begun to connect with groups … that are waging similar struggles across the country.”
About our guests:
Simran Dhunna is currently studying medicine at Queen’s University. She is a member of Naujawan Support Network.
Jobanjeet Kaur is a former international student who immigrated from Panjab in 2018. She was an active organizer in the Alpha College protests, and is now a member of Naujawan Support Network.
Jennifer Scott is a gig worker and the President of Gig Workers United CUPW. She began delivering on apps in 2017 as a bicycle courier. She was a member in the Justice for Foodora Couriers CUPW campaign where workers won the right to unionize with 90% of workers voting YES to their union.
Transcript of this episode can be accessed at georgebrown.ca/TommyDouglasInstitute or here.
Images: Simran Dhunna, Jobanjeet Kaur, Jennifer Scott / Used with permission.
Music: Ang Kahora. Lynne, Bjorn. Rights Purchased.
Intro Voices: Ashley Booth (Podcast Announcer); Bob Luker (Tommy); Injila Rajab Khan and Danesh Hanbury (Street Voices)
Courage My Friends podcast organizing committee: Chandra Budhu, Ashley Booth, Resh Budhu.
Produced by: Resh Budhu, Tommy Douglas Institute and Breanne Doyle, rabble.ca.
Host: Resh Budhu.
